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« on: August 27, 2013, 03:16:45 AM »

After 4 years of flinging zombie books at the world I've written my first urban fantasy and it drops on September 10th. I've worked on this (off and on) for 3 years. I could talk about this one for days but I think the cover speaks for itself ...

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« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2013, 03:36:24 AM »

Congrats!

I would probably like it I read urban fantasy everyday when I pick up a newspaper and read about how detrot is on the come back. smile
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« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2013, 07:47:03 AM »

grats!  this the possible start of a new series?
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« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2013, 08:52:24 AM »

Amazon Kindle?
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« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2013, 11:57:24 AM »

Congratulations!

Could you define urban fantasy? Is it exactly what it sounds like? And by that I mean...fantasy set in...an urban setting?

Buuut. What are the hallmarks of said genre.
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« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2013, 12:21:12 PM »

Quote from: ATB on August 27, 2013, 11:57:24 AM

Congratulations!

Could you define urban fantasy? Is it exactly what it sounds like? And by that I mean...fantasy set in...an urban setting?

Buuut. What are the hallmarks of said genre.

If you have Netflix you can stream Dresden Files which will explain it nicely
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« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2013, 12:26:27 PM »

Quote from: Soulchilde on August 27, 2013, 12:21:12 PM

Quote from: ATB on August 27, 2013, 11:57:24 AM

Congratulations!

Could you define urban fantasy? Is it exactly what it sounds like? And by that I mean...fantasy set in...an urban setting?

Buuut. What are the hallmarks of said genre.

If you have Netflix you can stream Dresden Files which will explain it nicely

Or Buffy the Vampire Slayer, or Supernatural.
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« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2013, 12:42:25 PM »

Quote from: Soulchilde on August 27, 2013, 12:21:12 PM

Quote from: ATB on August 27, 2013, 11:57:24 AM

Congratulations!

Could you define urban fantasy? Is it exactly what it sounds like? And by that I mean...fantasy set in...an urban setting?

Buuut. What are the hallmarks of said genre.

If you have Netflix you can stream Dresden Files which will explain it nicely

Is there an answer with a shorter time commitment on my part (though longer than just googling the answer for myself)?

Would John Dies at the End be an example of this genre?
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« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2013, 12:57:54 PM »

Quote from: ATB on August 27, 2013, 12:42:25 PM

Quote from: Soulchilde on August 27, 2013, 12:21:12 PM

Quote from: ATB on August 27, 2013, 11:57:24 AM

Congratulations!

Could you define urban fantasy? Is it exactly what it sounds like? And by that I mean...fantasy set in...an urban setting?

Buuut. What are the hallmarks of said genre.

If you have Netflix you can stream Dresden Files which will explain it nicely

Is there an answer with a shorter time commitment on my part (though longer than just googling the answer for myself)?

Would John Dies at the End be an example of this genre?
Yes, or American gods.
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« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2013, 01:00:33 PM »

Quote from: ATB on August 27, 2013, 12:42:25 PM

Quote from: Soulchilde on August 27, 2013, 12:21:12 PM

Quote from: ATB on August 27, 2013, 11:57:24 AM

Congratulations!

Could you define urban fantasy? Is it exactly what it sounds like? And by that I mean...fantasy set in...an urban setting?

Buuut. What are the hallmarks of said genre.

If you have Netflix you can stream Dresden Files which will explain it nicely

Is there an answer with a shorter time commitment on my part (though longer than just googling the answer for myself)?

Would John Dies at the End be an example of this genre?

Hey - spoilers!!!
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« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2013, 01:42:08 PM »

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Quote from: ATB on August 27, 2013, 12:42:25 PM

Quote from: Soulchilde on August 27, 2013, 12:21:12 PM

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Congratulations!

Could you define urban fantasy? Is it exactly what it sounds like? And by that I mean...fantasy set in...an urban setting?

Buuut. What are the hallmarks of said genre.

If you have Netflix you can stream Dresden Files which will explain it nicely

Is there an answer with a shorter time commitment on my part (though longer than just googling the answer for myself)?

Would John Dies at the End be an example of this genre?

Hey - spoilers!!!

But it's the name of the...oh! I get it! HAAHAHAHAHAHAA!
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« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2013, 01:49:01 PM »

Congrats, crusis!

How many books is this now?
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« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2013, 01:51:24 PM »

I look forward to your first suburban fantasy novel.
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« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2013, 02:37:31 PM »

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I look forward to your first suburban fantasy novel.

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« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2013, 02:44:45 PM »

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Is there an answer with a shorter time commitment on my part (though longer than just googling the answer for myself)?

Would John Dies at the End be an example of this genre?

Hey - spoilers!!!

But it's the name of the...oh! I get it! HAAHAHAHAHAHAA!

I know, I know - but I'm a 13 yo trapped in a grumps body.  I'm still chuckling at my own joke.  Maybe I'm just insane?


And on-topic - congrats Crusis!  I see some of your other works are available on the Kindle.  I've always wondered - how do authors fare when it comes to e-books?  Does your cut change at all in that case - if you don't mind me asking?
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« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2013, 03:37:00 PM »

I was just thinking that I wish I could be a writer. I don't think I have the creative spirit for it though. I suppose I could just try ripping off Shakespeare or something like that and converting it to a modern setting. Someone's probably already thought of that however...
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« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2013, 03:55:00 PM »

You mean like Romeo and Juliet with Leonardo di caprio? Or Titus with Anthony Hopkins? Sorry to steal the thunder. And I believe calista flockhart was in a remake of crap. I can't even remember because I don't like her.
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« Reply #17 on: August 27, 2013, 04:16:30 PM »

Thanks all. The book will be on kindle, nook, and every other ebook format as well as paperback. The page count is just a hair shy of 300. The audible version may take a few months.

Part of a series? If it sells. I've outlined a sequel but need to finish a few other books first.

Just to be upfront. I work with a traditional publisher but I'm stepping away from that with this book and self publishing. If that stigma bugs you that's cool - I understand. While I have an agent, actually the same agent as Chris Hardwick for his books, things are changing and writers are actually making money from their books these days.

For this book I put about $1K into editing, cover, and formatting. I'm doing everything a publisher would do except I have control of my book. More importantly I'll collect 70% royalties instead of 20% on ebook sales. Yep, ebook sales are where it's at. If I only sell 500 copies of this book I'll make my investment back. If I don't sell that many - well, back to the drawing board.

Anyway I really try not to spam the board with book sales stuff but this cover was so striking I just had to share.

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« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2013, 04:20:11 PM »

Quote from: Soulchilde on August 27, 2013, 12:21:12 PM

Quote from: ATB on August 27, 2013, 11:57:24 AM

Congratulations!

Could you define urban fantasy? Is it exactly what it sounds like? And by that I mean...fantasy set in...an urban setting?

Buuut. What are the hallmarks of said genre.

If you have Netflix you can stream Dresden Files which will explain it nicely

I'm a big fan of Dresden and Jim Butcher.
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« Reply #19 on: August 27, 2013, 04:56:27 PM »

Quote from: Crusis on August 27, 2013, 04:16:30 PM

Thanks all. The book will be on kindle, nook, and every other ebook format as well as paperback. The page count is just a hair shy of 300. The audible version may take a few months.

Part of a series? If it sells. I've outlined a sequel but need to finish a few other books first.

Just to be upfront. I work with a traditional publisher but I'm stepping away from that with this book and self publishing. If that stigma bugs you that's cool - I understand. While I have an agent, actually the same agent as Chris Hardwick for his books, things are changing and writers are actually making money from their books these days.

For this book I put about $1K into editing, cover, and formatting. I'm doing everything a publisher would do except I have control of my book. More importantly I'll collect 70% royalties instead of 20% on ebook sales. Yep, ebook sales are where it's at. If I only sell 500 copies of this book I'll make my investment back. If I don't sell that many - well, back to the drawing board.

Anyway I really try not to spam the board with book sales stuff but this cover was so striking I just had to share.



self  publishing via e-books is where the is at for the writers especially for less well known writers.  They get to cut of the middle men and probably one of thr reason publishing houses were against the format.  Anyway, looking forward to it
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« Reply #20 on: August 27, 2013, 07:37:11 PM »

Quote from: stessier on August 27, 2013, 02:44:45 PM

I know, I know - but I'm a 13 yo trapped in a grumps body.  I'm still chuckling at my own joke.  Maybe I'm just insane?

I was being facetious. Like that joke hasn't been around like, forever. slywink
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« Reply #22 on: August 27, 2013, 09:28:45 PM »

Quote from: ATB on August 27, 2013, 07:37:11 PM

Quote from: stessier on August 27, 2013, 02:44:45 PM

I know, I know - but I'm a 13 yo trapped in a grumps body.  I'm still chuckling at my own joke.  Maybe I'm just insane?

I was being facetious. Like that joke hasn't been around like, forever. slywink

Um, actually, it was first published in 2007, so, no, it hasn't been around forever.

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« Reply #23 on: August 27, 2013, 09:41:39 PM »

Quote from: Soulchilde on August 27, 2013, 04:56:27 PM


self  publishing via e-books is where the is at for the writers especially for less well known writers.  They get to cut of the middle men and probably one of thr reason publishing houses were against the format.  Anyway, looking forward to it

It's actually the opposite. Building a fanbase as a self published author can be brutally hard. There are something like 30K ebooks published on amazon every month so it gets harder and harder to stand out unless you plan to spend a decent amount on advertising. It helps if you are tapped into a genre and known in that genre's community. A friend of mine is very friendly with the horror genre and has reviewed a ton of books for them. He spent years working on his first zombie book and when he released it you can bet that every author he's helped was right there promoting his book.

I know the dream is to write a book, publish it and see it make thousands of dollars. The reality is that 99% of authors write, publish, and then sell 4 or 5 copies a month unless they have a solid plan to promote the hell out of their work.
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« Reply #24 on: August 27, 2013, 11:03:46 PM »

When you mentioned "Urban Fantasy"  my first thought was how much of that genre is romance fiction wrapped in an Urban Fantasy coat.  I then feared for your very soul. icon_twisted
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« Reply #25 on: August 27, 2013, 11:08:35 PM »

sparkly zombies!!!
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« Reply #26 on: August 28, 2013, 01:13:52 AM »

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sparkly zombies!!!

You know how to make a sparkly zombie? M-80's and a bunch of glass bottles.
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« Reply #27 on: August 29, 2013, 12:38:24 AM »

Quote from: Crusis on August 27, 2013, 09:41:39 PM

I know the dream is to write a book, publish it and see it make thousands of dollars. The reality is that 99% of authors write, publish, and then sell 4 or 5 copies a month unless they have a solid plan to promote the hell out of their work.

Ah.. So sell each copy for $250,000 and BAM! Instant millionaire!
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Quote from: Crusis on August 27, 2013, 09:41:39 PM

I know the dream is to write a book, publish it and see it make thousands of dollars. The reality is that 99% of authors write, publish, and then sell 4 or 5 copies a month unless they have a solid plan to promote the hell out of their work.

Ah.. So sell each copy for $250,000 and BAM! Instant millionaire!
Brilliant! I need a new agent anyway. You're hired.
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« Reply #29 on: September 06, 2013, 02:50:34 AM »

Stealth release!

The release date is Sept 10th but it's already starting to leak onto sites.
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« Reply #30 on: September 06, 2013, 09:51:53 AM »

Quote from: Crusis on September 06, 2013, 02:50:34 AM

Stealth release!

The release date is Sept 10th but it's already starting to leak onto sites.

Brought.. Delivered to my Kindle Fire..  It's in my queue, but I have several books to read before I get to it.  I am looking forward to reading it 
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« Reply #31 on: September 11, 2013, 12:58:54 PM »

Quote from: Soulchilde on September 06, 2013, 09:51:53 AM

Quote from: Crusis on September 06, 2013, 02:50:34 AM

Stealth release!

The release date is Sept 10th but it's already starting to leak onto sites.

Brought.. Delivered to my Kindle Fire..  It's in my queue, but I have several books to read before I get to it.  I am looking forward to reading it 

Thank you Soulchilde!

Yesterday was the release date and it was a blast. I did a live twitter chat, had an event on Facebook, and gave away about a dozen books. I only need to sell about 400 more books to make a small profit on this one - gah!
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« Reply #32 on: September 11, 2013, 03:02:27 PM »

so, which version would get you a better profit?  I find myself reading more hard copies of books nowadays, but if Kindle is where you get a better profit I'll grab that instead.  granted, it might be awhile until I read it; my reading time is currently filled up with textbooks for classes (I hate writing poetry, shoot me now).
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« Reply #33 on: September 11, 2013, 04:29:52 PM »

queue'd up next as well.  Once I finish up book 5 of ASoIaF...
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« Reply #34 on: September 11, 2013, 07:12:31 PM »

I'll have to give this one a shot. I'm reading Blue Blazes by Wendig now and it's piqued my interest in the genre.
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« Reply #35 on: September 12, 2013, 06:14:35 PM »

Quote from: CeeKay on September 11, 2013, 03:02:27 PM

so, which version would get you a better profit?  I find myself reading more hard copies of books nowadays, but if Kindle is where you get a better profit I'll grab that instead.  granted, it might be awhile until I read it; my reading time is currently filled up with textbooks for classes (I hate writing poetry, shoot me now).

Buying from my website. The only problem is that I don't have books to sign and send out yet. They'll be here in about 2 weeks. Printers ...

It's all good. Any version is a win for me.  icon_biggrin
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« Reply #36 on: September 13, 2013, 01:06:19 PM »

I've put it on my Amazon saved shopping cart. I'm holding off until I decide if I'm buying the new Kindle. I don't have one yet, but have been thinking about it. I will either get it then, or maybe order a signed one from you when you get them in. Please keep us posted.
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« Reply #37 on: September 13, 2013, 01:17:21 PM »

Quote from: WorkingMike on September 11, 2013, 07:12:31 PM

I'll have to give this one a shot. I'm reading Blue Blazes by Wendig now and it's piqued my interest in the genre.

Thanks for dropping the name of this book.  Sound interesting and has been downloaded to the Kindle
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queue'd up next as well.  Once I finish up book 5 of ASoIaF...

Don't read my book after Martin, sheesh. At least cleanse your pallet with something a little less epic first. My little paranormal murder mystery is pretty far from incest, backstabbing, politicking, and dragons.
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« Reply #39 on: September 13, 2013, 06:06:13 PM »

Quote from: Crusis on September 13, 2013, 05:41:12 PM

Quote from: Caine on September 11, 2013, 04:29:52 PM

queue'd up next as well.  Once I finish up book 5 of ASoIaF...

Don't read my book after Martin, sheesh. At least cleanse your pallet with something a little less epic first. My little paranormal murder mystery is pretty far from incest, backstabbing, politicking, and dragons.

urban fantasy is always a good cleanser after epic fantasy.  it bridges the reality with the fantasy quite nicely.  plus, you haven't written any of my go-to genre for fantasy follow-up:  sci-fi. 
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