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« on: April 22, 2013, 02:36:04 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2013, 03:17:18 PM »

I find that portion-control diets are not the best.  Ketogenic diets where you aren't measuring everything but instead watching the amount of carb intake works much better for me.  But yea....6oz of chicken is kinda nuts.  In terms of calories you could eat 5x that in lean turkey for the same 'spend'. 
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« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2013, 03:40:06 PM »

tell that to the chicken.
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« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2013, 04:13:49 PM »

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I find that portion-control diets are not the best.  Ketogenic diets where you aren't measuring everything but instead watching the amount of carb intake works much better for me.  But yea....6oz of chicken is kinda nuts.  In terms of calories you could eat 5x that in lean turkey for the same 'spend'. 

Not really doing portion control so much as calorie counting. I've found it to be very effective.  The other day I had what I thought was 6, but upon weighing it was 12.

Just one of those things.
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« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2013, 04:39:37 PM »

I feel your pain.  Once I thought I was just eating one Sausage, Egg and Cheese McMuffin...but when I looked again, I realized it was 5.
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« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2013, 04:59:02 PM »

Quote from: hepcat on April 22, 2013, 04:39:37 PM

I feel your pain.  Once I thought I was just eating one Sausage, Egg and Cheese McMuffin...but when I looked again, I realized it was 5.


ooooo... did you stack them together?  like a mega Sausaged McMuffinator with EggSPLOSION?
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« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2013, 05:03:22 PM »

Ancient Celtic warriors used to go into a berserker rage in battle.  I do the same thing...but with food.  Who knows what I did.  As far as I know, there's a cashier at McDonalds missing a hand right now.
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« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2013, 06:46:28 PM »

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Ancient Celtic warriors used to go into a berserker rage in battle.  I do the same thing...but with food.  Who knows what I did.  As far as I know, there's a cashier at McDonalds missing a hand right now.

As someone intimately familiar with fast-food employees, I'm pretty sure the soul-crushing depression of their current predicament far overshadows the chance that they'd even notice. Also, it may have been any one of the people before/during/after you.

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« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2013, 06:49:14 PM »

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I find that portion-control diets are not the best.  Ketogenic diets where you aren't measuring everything but instead watching the amount of carb intake works much better for me.  But yea....6oz of chicken is kinda nuts.  In terms of calories you could eat 5x that in lean turkey for the same 'spend'.  

This.

Caloric deficiency is important to short-term weight loss, and as long as you've stepped away from the SAD (Standard American Diet) with a low-carb maintenance plan, then you should be able to "keep it off". How you climb down the weight though - I'd rather do it with bacon over corn/wheat infused food as a means to avoid the word "fat" (because, in my experience, eating fat has never made me fat). Saturated or otherwise.

Also, 6oz of chicken is horrible waste of a meal, esp. if you're talking white meat. Might as well eat the box that it came in, too.
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« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2013, 06:52:14 PM »

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Might as well eat the box that it came in, too.
That`s what SHE said!

Ew. You`re gross.
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« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2013, 07:03:19 PM »

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on April 22, 2013, 03:17:18 PM

I find that portion-control diets are not the best.  Ketogenic diets where you aren't measuring everything but instead watching the amount of carb intake works much better for me.  But yea....6oz of chicken is kinda nuts.  In terms of calories you could eat 5x that in lean turkey for the same 'spend'. 
This.. Low carb was the way my wife and I took off a bunch of weight (eventually, put some back on), but is was definatly the easiest and you never had to worry about being hungry..
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« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2013, 07:19:44 PM »

White meat chicken breast is delicious.  Can be dressed up in so many ways.
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« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2013, 07:22:06 PM »

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and as long as you've stepped away from the SAD (Standard American Diet)

Says the guy from a country that considers french fries covered with cheese and gravy to be a national treasure...
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« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2013, 08:12:31 PM »

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and as long as you've stepped away from the SAD (Standard American Diet)

Says the guy from a country that considers french fries covered with cheese and gravy to be a national treasure...

Poutine and beavers, buddy. Problem is, I don`t eat potatoes.
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« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2013, 08:13:26 PM »

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and as long as you've stepped away from the SAD (Standard American Diet)

Says the guy from a country that considers french fries covered with cheese and gravy to be a national treasure...

Poutine and beavers, buddy. Problem is, I don`t eat potatoes.

Beavers are made of potatoes in Canada?   icon_confused
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« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2013, 08:14:41 PM »

I thought we were discussing Canadian delicacies.
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« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2013, 08:26:25 PM »

I started focusing on my health a little more at the beginning of this year.  It has always been my experience that building muscle mass before focusing on actual weight loss always got better results for me.  After 4 months of fairly regular gym time I have lost Zero lbs, but my waist size has gone down 3-4 inches.  In another month I will start regulating my diet a little bit and doing some cardio in my workouts, and i expect a 15-20lb weight loss should be relatively easy.
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« Reply #17 on: April 22, 2013, 08:27:43 PM »

I just looked it up and according to this web page (which is actually just some stuff I made up and then wrote down on a sticky note with the words "Internet Explorer 9" written on the top that I then taped to my computer monitor), the Potato Beaver is Canada's fiercest land animal and has such great jaw strength that it has been observed snapping a Louisville Slugger in half with one bite.  It's also able to perfectly mimic Bryan Adams and loves long walks on the beach.
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« Reply #18 on: April 22, 2013, 09:11:57 PM »

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You mean it's the price you pay for HAVING a fine arts degree, right?
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« Reply #19 on: April 22, 2013, 10:21:46 PM »

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Ancient Celtic warriors used to go into a berserker rage in battle.  I do the same thing...but with food.  Who knows what I did.  As far as I know, there's a cashier at McDonalds missing a hand right now.

did it weigh 6 ounces?
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« Reply #20 on: April 22, 2013, 10:23:46 PM »

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White meat chicken breast is delicious.  Can be dressed up in so many ways.

I prefer breasts to be free range with as little covering them up as possible.
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« Reply #21 on: April 22, 2013, 10:26:22 PM »

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Beavers are made of potatoes in Canada?   icon_confused

I hear they make good alternative to bread up there with all the yeast they contain.
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« Reply #22 on: April 22, 2013, 11:26:04 PM »

Ck  chiming in with the hat trick of unfunny.
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« Reply #23 on: April 22, 2013, 11:59:16 PM »

What I've learned is that if you're full, you've eaten too much.  Eat to live 80% of the time so that you can live to eat the other 20%. 
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« Reply #24 on: April 23, 2013, 12:22:32 AM »

Quote from: Misguided on April 22, 2013, 09:11:57 PM

Quote from: Purge on April 22, 2013, 06:46:28 PM

It's the price you pay to get an arts degree.

You mean it's the price you pay for HAVING a fine arts degree, right?

No. That's just cold, man.
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« Reply #25 on: April 23, 2013, 12:58:04 AM »

That depends, how much is six ounces in actual scientific measurement terms?
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« Reply #26 on: April 23, 2013, 01:22:03 AM »

Quote from: ATB on April 22, 2013, 11:26:04 PM

Ck  chiming in with the hat trick of unfunny.

I know, it was one ounce short.
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« Reply #27 on: April 25, 2013, 06:40:59 PM »

Quote from: CeeKay on April 23, 2013, 01:22:03 AM

Quote from: ATB on April 22, 2013, 11:26:04 PM

Ck  chiming in with the hat trick of unfunny.

I know, it was one ounce short.

...wait...YOU'RE one of his obsessions too?!?! 

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« Reply #28 on: April 25, 2013, 06:58:39 PM »

Six ounces sounds about right to me. That's one chicken breast, which when combined with, say, rice and salad, is a satisfying and filling meal. I almost never eat more chicken than that in one sitting. Of course, American serving sizes tend to be considerably larger than their European counterparts.
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« Reply #29 on: April 25, 2013, 07:00:09 PM »

Quote from: hepcat on April 25, 2013, 06:40:59 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on April 23, 2013, 01:22:03 AM

Quote from: ATB on April 22, 2013, 11:26:04 PM

Ck  chiming in with the hat trick of unfunny.

I know, it was one ounce short.

...wait...YOU'RE one of his obsessions too?!?! 

Oh ATB...you whore. 

what can I say, he's got Obsessed with Ceekay Disorder.
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« Reply #30 on: April 26, 2013, 10:54:11 PM »

Quote from: TiLT on April 25, 2013, 06:58:39 PM

Six ounces sounds about right to me. That's one chicken breast, which when combined with, say, rice and salad, is a satisfying and filling meal. I almost never eat more chicken than that in one sitting. Of course, American serving sizes tend to be considerably larger than their European counterparts.

But you guys are smaller....and you know, 'Murica and all that. 
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« Reply #31 on: May 23, 2013, 05:11:43 PM »

Now that my gargantuan appetites have been properly recalibrated, 6 ounces is plenty of chicken breast.
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« Reply #32 on: May 23, 2013, 06:37:07 PM »

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on April 26, 2013, 10:54:11 PM

Quote from: TiLT on April 25, 2013, 06:58:39 PM

Six ounces sounds about right to me. That's one chicken breast, which when combined with, say, rice and salad, is a satisfying and filling meal. I almost never eat more chicken than that in one sitting. Of course, American serving sizes tend to be considerably larger than their European counterparts.

But you guys are smaller....and you know, 'Murica and all that. 

I read somewhere (or made it up, not sure) that the average height of a Dane is around 3' 4".  However, Great Danes can sometimes reach heights of 4 and a half feet.
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« Reply #33 on: May 24, 2013, 02:43:53 PM »

Quote from: hepcat on May 23, 2013, 06:37:07 PM

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on April 26, 2013, 10:54:11 PM

Quote from: TiLT on April 25, 2013, 06:58:39 PM

Six ounces sounds about right to me. That's one chicken breast, which when combined with, say, rice and salad, is a satisfying and filling meal. I almost never eat more chicken than that in one sitting. Of course, American serving sizes tend to be considerably larger than their European counterparts.

But you guys are smaller....and you know, 'Murica and all that. 

I read somewhere (or made it up, not sure) that the average height of a Dane is around 3' 4".  However, Great Danes can sometimes reach heights of 4 and a half feet.

Literal lol!   I'm still on my keto diet - dropped 5 lbs over the last two weeks.  6oz of chicken is still too small....
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« Reply #34 on: May 24, 2013, 02:44:49 PM »

Care to share your diet details?
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« Reply #35 on: May 24, 2013, 05:12:02 PM »

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Care to share your diet details?

I think you're talking to KD but i'll answer.

Basically it's calorie counting via Myfitnesspal.com.  And I began exercising again.  I used to rely solely on running, but we bought bikes a month and a half ago and that has been the difference. Alternating biking with running has really helped me to stay consistent and avoid fatigue and avoid injury.

I'm losing on average 2.5 per week.  Goal is to get back down to my HS weight (180) by August.

But it's all calorie counting.  Calories in/calories out.

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« Reply #36 on: May 24, 2013, 05:15:05 PM »

I love Myfitnesspal.com.  I was using the Android version for a while.  I really need to get back to it.  I want to get down to my birth weight.
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« Reply #37 on: May 24, 2013, 05:16:44 PM »

Oh and I've discovered half a cup of ice cream is just the right amount.

I'll need to remind myself of that when this attempt at eating healthy and exercising crashes and burns like all of the other times and i go back to 3 scoops.

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« Reply #38 on: May 24, 2013, 11:00:11 PM »

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Quote from: Purge on May 24, 2013, 02:44:49 PM

Care to share your diet details?

I think you're talking to KD but i'll answer.

Basically it's calorie counting via Myfitnesspal.com.  And I began exercising again.  I used to rely solely on running, but we bought bikes a month and a half ago and that has been the difference. Alternating biking with running has really helped me to stay consistent and avoid fatigue and avoid injury.

I'm losing on average 2.5 per week.  Goal is to get back down to my HS weight (180) by August.

But it's all calorie counting.  Calories in/calories out.

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No, KD is referring to a Keto diet ... ketogenic diet, which means certain calories in.

Ice cream, given the sugar/carb load level, is probably off the regular menu. Tongue

I've basically been able to gain weight (muscle tissue) and maintain / slightly lose weight. I have big problems with my current lifestyle, as my GF doesn't really subscribe to the idea so it makes it harder to resist the occasional cheats. Oddly enough, any of my weight loss has been due to low carb diets - specifically looking at Protein Power (2003-2005 timeframe) and then more keto (raising fat intakes).

IIRC, the idea behind ketogenic weight loss is that your body is lacking so much carb content that it uses fat to make ketones to fuel your brain. If memory serves, your brain will use ~120g of carbs per day to fuel your brain - but the carbs also cause a storage cycle.

I'm just looking for advice on what balance of amount of food, timing, etc that has worked for Ron - I'm not interested in losing my strength or muscular framework - I've put many hours into the gym to get it. I need to slim down the fat, but I'm trying to find the best way to do so. It's easier for me to take a list from someone else and then follow it than it is to actually start counting. Frankly put, going keto and listening to hunger has worked for me in the past, but it's difficult with all the stress and crap I have in the cupboards.

Hit a personal best in the gym 3 weeks ago - my second set of bench, I did 5 reps of 335lbs (or eight-hundred-and-ninety-three-odd 6oz chicken breasts), and that same week, manage to do 95lbs DB shoulder press (7 reps) in a drop set.  I'm working on getting strong enough to overcome my weight to do muscle-ups now, and when fresh, I can manage 13-15 chin-ups (if you count by chin, that's at leat 26-39 slywink slywink ). I also will do 10-12 minutes of interval running. I'm fast, but I try and get my endurance through cycling. Just bought a set of Vibrams last week, and am interested in getting into "barefoot" running. Hate shoes - they never fit right and hurt my toes because I land mid-foot rather than heel-to-toe.

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« Reply #39 on: May 25, 2013, 11:33:31 PM »

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I did 5 reps of 335lbs (or eight-hundred-and-ninety-three-odd 6oz chicken breasts),

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