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« on: November 24, 2004, 09:05:23 PM »

The ignorance continues.  It amazes me these same people blamed everything, from comic books to role-playing games to eating utencils to picture boxes for violence, rape, milk turning sour, etc.  It seems video games are just the 'evil dujour'.

Maybe being blamed for all the evils of society are some kind of 'right of passage'... once you are blamed for everything wrong with the world, you can then go on to become a 'legitimate' art form.
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« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2004, 09:14:14 PM »

Ha, just noticed this one-
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Sen. Joe Lieberman-

"The fact that the assassination of President Kennedy, which broke our hearts and altered our history, could become the subject of a video game from which people are making money is just outrageous, it is despicable, it's unbelievable," Lieberman said.


I wonder if Joe felt the same way about the Titanic movie, or even the Titanic amusement park ride?  As Opie and Anthony wondered, how long does it take for a tragedy to become a valid form of entertainment?  Do we have a few more years or so for the Hindenburg tanning booth, or the Auschwitz Easy-Bake Oven?
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« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2004, 09:17:13 PM »

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Auschwitz Easy-Bake Oven?

All I know is I want to see the commercial that tries to sell THAT. smile

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« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2004, 09:20:17 PM »

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Auschwitz Easy-Bake Oven?

All I know is I want to see the commercial that tries to sell THAT. smile

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« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2004, 09:38:00 PM »

I saw this yesterday on one of those Cspan channels. When I was channel surfing and saw the "Report on Video Games" caption, I knew I HAD to see this.

Sure enough, it took only about 10 minutes for him to compare video games to porn. He did it relating a story about how some parent asked him(while he was on a nationwide tour promoting his book on teens, he's an expert don't you know) how to say no to her 13yr old who wanted GTA SA.  He told her something like "if your kid asked you to let him watch porn, what would you say?".  He then quickly added "NOT that it's the same thing"....uh, yeah right, you didn't mean to say that at all.   :roll:

edit: the David Walsh press conference was the one I'm referring to.
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« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2004, 09:51:08 PM »

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As Opie and Anthony wondered, how long does it take for a tragedy to become a valid form of entertainment?


Nice to see another O & A fan around.  biggrin
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« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2004, 10:04:10 PM »

I guess they don't know that just like rated "R" movies, the games have the "M" rating for a reason.   Doesn't that kind of make you stop and go "duh"?  I don't hear them yelling at Hollywood to stop making "R" rated movies because they have inappropriate material for kids.
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« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2004, 11:02:48 PM »

i knew it was only a matter of time before those games would get the wrath of "the holy ones".  

oddly enough, i do think that the quote of david walsh regarding gta: sa is relevant though.  why do parents take such a lack approach to being a parent when it comes to video games?  if they can monitor movie and music choices, why not games too?  what is the problem with people that blame X for their messed up children when they don't even care what X is enough to look into it.  they'll spend more time researching what to buy on ebay than what goes into their kids' minds.  damn pathetic people.  bunch of lambs, being led by the nose.
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« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2004, 07:41:05 AM »

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As Opie and Anthony wondered, how long does it take for a tragedy to become a valid form of entertainment?


Nice to see another O & A fan around.  biggrin


Yeah, I was really sad to see them go off the air.  They were by far the most consistantly funny radio show I ever heard.  

Another thing- after I started listening to O&A, I lost a huge amount of respect for Howard Stern.  It was amazing hearing their show, and then hearing Stern do the same exact bits and jokes the following morning.
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« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2004, 02:14:07 PM »

WEll first off, as a gamer I too despise ppl, *especially* parents, who are too ignorant and lazy to lift their right index finger to a mouse and go searching for information on games.  Again, *especially* when those games are for their children.  IT's outrageous and just more fuel for the fire that says parenting cards might not be all that bad of an idea...

But I kinda agree with ole Joe that a video game that 'rewards' the player for assasinating Kennedy might be a bit over the top.  Sure, go ahead and make it, then slap it with an 'A' (Adult only) rating and watch the sales plummet(hopefully...with an 'A' rating they might just go thru the roof, heh). I certainly wouldnt support that kind of game, and I think it shows a distinct lack of class on the part of anyone who would A) make the game and/or B) buy it.  But that's just my opinion and we all know what opinions are like...

I wish games like that and Postal weren't made, but Id be being hypocritical if I thought they should be 'banned'(i.e. the gov't not allowing a certain game to be made or even distributed...wouldnt mind seeing restrictions placed on *where* it could be sold however, esp. if it comes with an 'A' rating).
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« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2004, 11:29:00 PM »

It isnt exactly a 'game', so much as a computerized recreation.  Their goal is to see if somebody can recreate the shooting so that it complies with the findings of the Warren Commission.

But given that Nixon himself said the Warren report was the biggest scam ever pulled on the American people (not that he thought it was a bad thing), I cant say I have much faith in their findings.
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« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2004, 01:00:01 AM »

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Yeah, I was really sad to see them go off the air.  They were by far the most consistantly funny radio show I ever heard.



This is going to make me look like an idiot, I know, but you do know they are back, right? On XM. I'm pretty sure you're aware, since I believe that game comment came from a show earlier in the week.  smile
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« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2004, 05:46:36 AM »

Actually, I just was just recalling something they said from an old show (they were discussing the sighting of a 'Titanic' slide at an amusement park).

I know they are back, but I cant afford to pay for radio, nor do I really think I would if I could.  Also, there is an additional charge above the XM service if you want to get O&A, I believe.  I like them a lot, but not enough to pay a monthly fee.

Maybe if I were into music more than I am, it would be worth it.  If I were getting the XM service, I would certainly pay the fee to get their show, however.  I guess my problem is that XM or Sirius just arent appealing to me as a product.

I mainly listen to a local talk radio station all day (WCKG): it's free and good enough for me.
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« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2004, 05:02:56 PM »

Used to work at Barnes and Noble before and had a dad come in and was looking for a Rap CD for his 13 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER.  Said was it was for and was going to buy it with the warning labels and all.  Told him to listen to it first in the store.  He put it back and said thanks had to have a talk with his daughter.  
If you don't lead some parents by the hand to check things out they just do whatever the kids want.
His expression was priceless when he heard what was on the CD.  He knew if not for me saying listen he would have just bought it.
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« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2004, 09:38:34 PM »

Unbreakable,

 
 If you're interested in hearing how the boys sound now, go to xmradio.com and sign up for the free three day trail for the online streaming. The High Voltage channel, which is the O & A channel, is included in the online stream.  The live show is running from 6 am to 10 am, but they rebroadcast that days show until the new show the following morning, and the whole week on Saturday and Sunday.

 If you're crafty enough, you can always use a different email address every 3 days to keep listening.
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