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« on: November 13, 2004, 12:31:43 AM »

We have this gnarly spider in our front yard.  It's just hanging out, not really moving much and not harming anyone, but i'd still like to know what it is.  here's a picture:

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« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2004, 12:55:30 AM »

Its definitely an orb-weaver which can mean a species among several different orders and families.  Where do you live?
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« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2004, 01:05:52 AM »

orb weaver aka Garden Spider. They are prevalent in the south and harmless but grow to be pretty big and can wrap up a bug with the best of 'em. We have them around our house all the time in the summer.
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« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2004, 01:11:09 AM »

Dammit!  You should link to pictures like that!  I just about crawled up the wall!   :shock:
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« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2004, 01:15:29 AM »

I love our big old writing spiders.
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« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2004, 01:17:54 AM »

SOME PIG
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« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2004, 01:41:37 AM »

fremont, CA smile
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« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2004, 04:11:37 AM »

Better California than Malaysia.  Their version of an orb weaver:




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« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2004, 04:34:12 AM »

I think what you have there is a:

Argiope trifasciata (or very close relative) Family: Family Araneidae

a.k.a the banded argiope, or banded orb-weaver

That is definitely a female, males will typically about 1/4th the size or less (believe to be an effect of gravity and energy -- females live in high places to catch moths, smaller male spiders will expend less energy reaching the female than larger male spiders, giving the smaller male spiders an advantage in breeding).

Non-poisonous, benefical to humans (especially gardeners).
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« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2004, 05:27:54 AM »

Wow that's scary looking!
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« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2004, 07:46:30 PM »

Spider identified as that of my nightmares!
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« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2004, 10:00:05 PM »

Yikes.  That second pic made my butthole pucker.  

I never minded spiders until I was at the NC Museum of Nautral History when I was in 4th grade and this Giant Crab Spider pushed the top off of its cage, ran up this guys arm, and parked itself on his ear.  
Still gives me the shivers to think about it.

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« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2004, 10:51:12 PM »



Boo.
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« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2004, 02:37:55 AM »

Why God, why do I look when I know there are going to be tons of spider pictures in a thread like this?
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« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2004, 03:23:39 AM »

This is my local favorite...Argiope Aurantia...they are very pretty and make a wonderful web...also known as the Writing Spider.



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« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2004, 03:40:39 AM »

One I took in the hallway of my house:



Guy at work said it's a wolf spider. Not sure if that's correct or not, but rumor is that he's a spider nut. He said there's lots of different types of wolf spiders, and that's one of them.

We always called them wolf spiders when we were kids anyway. We used to toss other bugs into bug boxes with those things and just watch. Sometimes it was pretty cool stuff. Most of the time they just sat there.
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« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2004, 04:58:52 AM »

I got a question on wolf spiders...I have them here but we also have little dogs in the floor..chihuahuas...so even though i hate to do it I squish the wolf spiders cause I dont want a little dog bite/poisoned/skin rot off...are they or are they not dangerous?
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« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2004, 05:13:15 AM »

Not dangerous if they look like the one I just posted. I used to carry them around in my hand.

I've gotten to the point now where if it's not a black widow or a brown recluse I don't kill spiders. I pick them up with a piece of paper and a plastic cup if available so I don't hurt hem, and I drop them in our barn. At least that's the summer-time procedure. In the winter I tend to just drop them outside the front door. Either I get rid of them inside or they freeze to death.

I like them, but that doesn't mean I want them crawling on my face in my sleep. I like my room spider-free when possible.

In my short life I have seen both a Black Widow, and a Brown Recluse. The Recluse scared me shitless. At first I thought it was just any other regular old spider and I went to grab something to pick it up in so I could shoo it outside. Then I saw that damned almost violin shaped symbol pointing towards the head and I freaked. Froze solid right where I was. As it crawled out the bathroom doorway into the hall, I exited the opposite direction and went to my room. I ended up putting on a pair of flannel lined pants, tucking them into a pair of tall boots I had, and then proceeding to put on a pair of my dad's old knee-high thermal work-socks over those. I then clomped after the little thing down our hallway where it had no good route of escape. I eventually caught him partially with one stomp and it broke all his legs on one side. I was afraid to touch it after that and I just left it in the hall. My dad was pretty upset that I stretched out a pair of his good winter work socks until I showed him the spider. His comment was that he "probably would have gone for the damned shotgun".

The idea that something that size can do what it does is absolutely terrifying to me. If you have a strong-ish stomach, I'd suggest googling "Brown Recluse Bites" and checking it out. It's terrifying. There are people the venom has remained active in for YEARS.
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« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2004, 05:17:02 AM »

Uh, what's the scale on that there wolf spider?
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« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2004, 05:54:30 AM »

Wolf Spider = Lycosid

Use that to impress your friend.  Wolf Spiders are interesting because they are active predators.  They do not spin webs.  They live by the thousands on thousands under the forest leaf layer.
There are also Ctenids or False Wolf Spiders that look very similar.

My favorite spiders are a toss-up between:

Agelenopsis sp. (the funnel spiders), cool because they are usually large and their back legs touch each other over its body.

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Spider from the Pisauridae family (the nursery web and fishing spiders), cool because they can actually hunt things on and under the water's surface.
 

Xysticus sp. (crab spiders) are cool as well for their general shape (crab-like)
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« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2004, 02:39:55 PM »

Well now i feel even worse for stomping the wolf spiders...I have tried to get ahold of them to toss them but thier legs come off so easily its easier just to stomp them and put them down. ill try something else next time.
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« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2004, 03:04:09 PM »

Threads like this are hilarious.

 One poor guy calls in with a legitimate question on spider identification and gets a pretty accurate answer and then its open season on who can pull out the ugliest scariest, most disgusting spider picture they can find.

I love it.

If I could figure out how to post a pic I let you have it. haha
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« Reply #22 on: November 16, 2004, 09:18:11 PM »

What makes it so great is that so many forum members hate them thar spiders  slywink    I have always been fascinated by bugs.  Here's a few of the scarier ones out there:

Jungle Nymph


How can you resist a face like this?


The awesome Weta:


Now try sleeping peacefully tonight!
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