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« on: February 13, 2010, 07:16:19 PM »

everyone's favorite growling anti-hero is coming back for a third time.  according to the article it's going to be closer to Pitch Black than Chronicles, so I wonder if they're tossing out the ending of Chronicles altogether or going for a prequel.
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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2010, 07:29:27 PM »

Cool! I was hoping they'd continue this series. Even though the second movie wasn't all that great, the setting in itself has great potential.
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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2010, 07:48:43 PM »

Definitely in!
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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2010, 08:25:55 PM »

yeah, I wonder if they *can* continue that story, other than leaving it somewhat vague and suddenly he's not in charge anymore of the homocidal maniacs from the second movie.

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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2010, 08:26:45 PM »

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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2010, 08:28:04 PM »

prolly the only thing i like Vin Diesel in,i have the 3 DVD pack  with Pitch Black,Dark Fury(the anime inbetween thing)and Chronicals...and along with the 2 video games they have been an entertaining series,so i am looking forward to this,but yes i hope it is better than Chronicals

can someone(in spoilers if you wish)tell me what happened at the end of Chronicals,i can't for the life of me remember


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« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2010, 08:30:06 PM »

Riddick sat down...

Spoiler for Hiden:
On the throne, after having killed the Supreme Overlord with a bit of a belly who could move like a shadow... Jack's dead though, and the rest of the Necromongers knelt, and Vaakus said "You keep what you kill", so, Riddick is now supreme warlord and will have to get a bit of a fat belly
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« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2010, 08:32:11 PM »

Quote from: metallicorphan on February 13, 2010, 08:28:04 PM

prolly the only thing i like Vin Diesel in,i have the 3 DVD pack  with Pitch Black,Dark Fury(the anime inbetween thing)and Chronicals...and along with the 2 video games they have been an entertaining series,so i am looking forward to this,but yes i hope it is better than Chronicals

can someone(in spoilers if you wish)tell me what happened at the end of Chronicals,i can't for the life of me remember




Spoiler for Hiden:
he kills the leader of the Necromongers, and in a voiceover he says 'you keep what you kill' while seen sitting on their throne.  basically he's the new Necromonger Emperor.

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Spoiler for Hiden:
what Raz said
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« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2010, 08:35:39 PM »

IN. Liked him in the Riddick movies and some other things. He gets a bit of a pass for some of his movies since he wrote the forward of the 30th Anniversary Edition DnD book. Gives him a little geek cred for me.
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« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2010, 10:23:30 PM »

IN.  Really liked both movies.
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« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2010, 04:16:51 AM »

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IN.  Really liked both movies.
+1 Two of my favorite SciFi movies.
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« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2010, 08:26:50 AM »

Quote from: Kagath on February 13, 2010, 08:35:39 PM

IN. Liked him in the Riddick movies and some other things. He gets a bit of a pass for some of his movies since he wrote the forward of the 30th Anniversary Edition DnD book. Gives him a little geek cred for me.


he was on Jonathan Ross late night Friday thing(UKs version of Letterman or Jay Leno,only its every friday and not every night)..and they were discussing World of Warcraft ,as he likes to play that as well and Vin Diesel was impressed that JRs wife was 'a very high level'(JR told him she had green stuff coming off her character and VD eyes widened and was suddenly very interested in the topic,LOL)
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« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2010, 06:07:34 PM »

I was just raving about the Riddick movies to a friend, highly anticipating this!

I would prefer the third movie took after Chronicles more but I'm just happer we're getting another one.
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« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2010, 06:15:56 PM »

Perhaps movienizing his time in Butchers Bay? Could be fun, or at least part of it, so that we know about the eyes and stuff
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« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2010, 02:40:21 AM »

a bit about the script.  jetcycles?  sounds like this one is going to be the fast and the furyan.
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« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2010, 03:45:45 AM »

Fine, I'll be the first to say that I'm not looking forward to this at all.  I think we'll be lucky if it's mediocre at best.
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« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2010, 06:33:56 AM »

Quote from: EngineNo9 on February 18, 2010, 03:45:45 AM

Fine, I'll be the first to say that I'm not looking forward to this at all.  I think we'll be lucky if it's mediocre at best.

And this is based on what? Considering the first two movies were really good I don't see why you would assume a poor third act.
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« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2010, 07:42:51 AM »

Quote from: Ridah on February 18, 2010, 06:33:56 AM

Quote from: EngineNo9 on February 18, 2010, 03:45:45 AM

Fine, I'll be the first to say that I'm not looking forward to this at all.  I think we'll be lucky if it's mediocre at best.

And this is based on what? Considering the first two movies were really good I don't see why you would assume a poor third act.

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« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2010, 08:02:22 PM »

here's the most current plot synopsis.
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« Reply #19 on: May 12, 2010, 05:50:43 AM »

Vin Diesel was an avid DnD player for years, may even still be. It's been a long while but If memory servers me correctly Vin had a large part in creating the Riddick character as well as the Necromonger race and the Underverse. I can definitely see the whole story within the context of a PnP rpg setting. I also thought Vin never intended Pitch Black to be the first movie but when he pitched his idea the powers that be weren't that interested in the Furyan/Necromonger thing but they liked the "horror" aspects of Pitch Black so that was what wound up being produced first.
As to that plot synopsis, I always got the impression Riddick was pretty much the last surviving Furyan, well aside from Shirah but I never finished Butcher Bay so not sure how she plays into the story, anyway so if Riddick is the last how is he betrayed and I thought the Lord Marshal pretty much leveled Furya in his original attack??? Seems like another one of those hollywood "Jedi mind tricks" like having to pretend there was no continuity in the Highlander universe.
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« Reply #20 on: May 12, 2010, 05:20:39 PM »

Chronicles would have been much better if they'd dropped the whole "I'm really from Furya.  I'm like a Klingon without the ridges!" crap and just kept him as he was meant to be:  an anti-hero who made himself more than a man through sheer tenacity and mean spiritedness.  it just felt tacked on and forced. 

The setting for Chronicles was great, though.  Much more interesting than the Furya crap.
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« Reply #21 on: May 12, 2010, 06:24:16 PM »

yeah, i don't get why he had to be the last survivor of a super-race.  that makes his survival from pitch black a bit weaker.  it would be like finding out that the guy in glasses who just saved a bunch of kids was superman.  of course he can do it. 

i loved the setting as well, but the whole universe expansion felt like a different movie was made and then they decided to drop riddick into it. 

i'd almost enjoy an adaptation of EfBB made into a movie.  or an expansion of the dark athena storyline.

either way, i'll watch this when it comes out. 
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« Reply #22 on: May 12, 2010, 06:36:55 PM »

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i'd almost enjoy an adaptation of EfBB made into a movie. 

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« Reply #23 on: May 12, 2010, 06:51:28 PM »

I know Riddick is a criminal and all that but it'd be nice to have a movie where he didn't end up in a prison, intentionally or unintentionally.
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« Reply #24 on: May 12, 2010, 07:33:46 PM »

Quote from: CeeKay on May 12, 2010, 06:51:28 PM

I know Riddick is a criminal and all that but it'd be nice to have a movie where he didn't end up in a prison, intentionally or unintentionally.

I think it would be great to do exactly that.  May be the only way to make a decent riddick sequel.
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« Reply #25 on: May 12, 2010, 08:55:55 PM »

Quote from: CeeKay on May 12, 2010, 06:51:28 PM

I know Riddick is a criminal and all that but it'd be nice to have a movie where he didn't end up in a prison, intentionally or unintentionally.

In Chronicles he ended up on a throne, no?
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« Reply #26 on: May 12, 2010, 09:10:11 PM »

Quote from: Ridah on May 12, 2010, 08:55:55 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on May 12, 2010, 06:51:28 PM

I know Riddick is a criminal and all that but it'd be nice to have a movie where he didn't end up in a prison, intentionally or unintentionally.

In Chronicles he ended up on a throne, no?

yeah, but they still had him in that one supermax for a bit (which was intentional).  You'd think the guys in charge of the prisons would have learned their lesson after Butcher Bay and lock him up in a very small cell, hang him upside down and feed him through a tube.
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« Reply #27 on: May 12, 2010, 10:20:15 PM »

Quote from: Ridah on May 12, 2010, 08:55:55 PM

Quote from: CeeKay on May 12, 2010, 06:51:28 PM

I know Riddick is a criminal and all that but it'd be nice to have a movie where he didn't end up in a prison, intentionally or unintentionally.

In Chronicles he ended up on a throne, no?

Yup, I don't see how he's going to end up in a prison this time. People on thrones don't usually go to prison, just to the chopping block.

To me what little's known about the plot kind of reminds me of the Star Wars Old Republic legend about Onderon and the Dxun moon colony. In it convicts and other unwanted members of society are cast out into a hostile environment populated with lethal, alien beasts. They turn the tables by taming the beasts and waging an endless war against their previous captors. Ironically, they even later gain the services of 3 powerful Jedi for their cause.  Hey if Lucas is too lame to run with a film based on one of his Old Republic plots, why not have someone else rip it off. slywink
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« Reply #28 on: May 12, 2010, 10:38:04 PM »

After seeing Chronicles about 297 times on cable TV, I actually warmed up to the movie. I even bought it cheap on DVD cause I never seemed to see the whole thing on cable.  icon_razz I thought Kyra's storyline was more interesting than his, and a shame about her fate in the film.

Vinny to me is like Sylvester Stallone. Slather him up and he looks like a matinee idol, but the moment he opens his mouth... I recommend they gave Vin as little dialogue as possible in the new film. Maybe even make it a silent movie.  icon_smile
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« Reply #29 on: May 12, 2010, 11:20:53 PM »

Ceekay what's the summary?  Does it take place before Chronicles of Riddick, when he becomes ruler of the Necromonger?
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« Reply #30 on: May 12, 2010, 11:38:37 PM »

Quote from: leo8877 on May 12, 2010, 11:20:53 PM

Ceekay what's the summary?  Does it take place before Chronicles of Riddick, when he becomes ruler of the Necromonger?

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Betrayed by his own kind and left for dead on a desolate planet, Riddick (Diesel) fights for survival against alien predators and becomes more powerful and dangerous than ever before.

Soon bounty hunters from throughout the galaxy descend on Riddick only to find themselves pawns in his greater scheme for revenge. With his enemies right where he wants them, Riddick unleashes a vicious attack of vengeance before returning to his home planet of Furya to save it from destruction.

I'm not sure if it's a prequel or a follow up to Chronicles.
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« Reply #31 on: May 12, 2010, 11:55:41 PM »

I hope its a prequel because from the sounds of that synopsis it seems they threw the whole basis of Chronicles and the Necromongers ( including the Underverse ) right out the window.  Unless his own kind that betrays him are the Necromongers.    I was one of the few that actually liked Chronicles and thought that a follow up involving the Underverse and the rest of the Necromonger mythology would be interesting.  Instead it looks like your basic revenge porn sci-fi style.
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« Reply #32 on: May 13, 2010, 01:59:45 AM »

Quote from: rshetts2 on May 12, 2010, 11:55:41 PM

I hope its a prequel because from the sounds of that synopsis it seems they threw the whole basis of Chronicles and the Necromongers ( including the Underverse ) right out the window.  Unless his own kind that betrays him are the Necromongers.    I was one of the few that actually liked Chronicles and thought that a follow up involving the Underverse and the rest of the Necromonger mythology would be interesting.  Instead it looks like your basic revenge porn sci-fi style.

I likes Chronicles too and wanted ton see where thatnstory line was going.
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« Reply #33 on: May 13, 2010, 07:27:42 AM »

Quote from: leo8877 on May 13, 2010, 01:59:45 AM

Quote from: rshetts2 on May 12, 2010, 11:55:41 PM

I hope its a prequel because from the sounds of that synopsis it seems they threw the whole basis of Chronicles and the Necromongers ( including the Underverse ) right out the window.  Unless his own kind that betrays him are the Necromongers.    I was one of the few that actually liked Chronicles and thought that a follow up involving the Underverse and the rest of the Necromonger mythology would be interesting.  Instead it looks like your basic revenge porn sci-fi style.

I likes Chronicles too and wanted ton see where thatnstory line was going.

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« Reply #34 on: May 13, 2010, 08:01:14 AM »

Quote from: leo8877 on May 13, 2010, 01:59:45 AM

Quote from: rshetts2 on May 12, 2010, 11:55:41 PM

I hope its a prequel because from the sounds of that synopsis it seems they threw the whole basis of Chronicles and the Necromongers ( including the Underverse ) right out the window.  Unless his own kind that betrays him are the Necromongers.    I was one of the few that actually liked Chronicles and thought that a follow up involving the Underverse and the rest of the Necromonger mythology would be interesting.  Instead it looks like your basic revenge porn sci-fi style.

I likes Chronicles too and wanted ton see where thatnstory line was going.

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« Reply #35 on: May 13, 2010, 08:12:59 PM »

Quote from: Daehawk on May 13, 2010, 07:27:42 AM

Quote from: leo8877 on May 13, 2010, 01:59:45 AM

Quote from: rshetts2 on May 12, 2010, 11:55:41 PM

I hope its a prequel because from the sounds of that synopsis it seems they threw the whole basis of Chronicles and the Necromongers ( including the Underverse ) right out the window.  Unless his own kind that betrays him are the Necromongers.    I was one of the few that actually liked Chronicles and thought that a follow up involving the Underverse and the rest of the Necromonger mythology would be interesting.  Instead it looks like your basic revenge porn sci-fi style.

I likes Chronicles too and wanted ton see where thatnstory line was going.

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« Reply #36 on: May 15, 2010, 12:46:11 PM »

Am I the only one that really didn't like Chronicles? Maybe I need to rewatch it some day, but when it came out I thought it was pretty terrible. I really enjoyed Pitch Black though. And, from what little I know of the game storylines, I think I'd probably like them too (they're in my backlog). Chronicles, however, was just weird to me. Cheesy and campy. I also am not a fan of movies where fantasy and sci-fi stuff both exist like they did in this one. At least, that's what I remember thinking at the time. Truth is I don't remember much of the movie.

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« Reply #37 on: May 15, 2010, 01:07:53 PM »

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I also am not a fan of movies where fantasy and sci-fi stuff both exist like they did in this one.

What, you don't like Star Wars?
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« Reply #38 on: May 15, 2010, 04:23:31 PM »

Quote from: TiLT on May 15, 2010, 01:07:53 PM

Quote from: Kyosho on May 15, 2010, 12:46:11 PM

I also am not a fan of movies where fantasy and sci-fi stuff both exist like they did in this one.

What, you don't like Star Wars?


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« Reply #39 on: May 15, 2010, 04:48:36 PM »

Quote from: CeeKay on May 15, 2010, 04:23:31 PM

Quote from: TiLT on May 15, 2010, 01:07:53 PM

Quote from: Kyosho on May 15, 2010, 12:46:11 PM

I also am not a fan of movies where fantasy and sci-fi stuff both exist like they did in this one.

What, you don't like Star Wars?


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