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« Reply #40 on: December 17, 2016, 12:10:14 AM »

The CGI characters totally reminded me of the cinematic trailers that came out for the current SW Battlefront game.
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« Reply #41 on: December 17, 2016, 03:05:01 AM »

I found it entertaining enough. Felt like by trying to tell a Dirty Dozen type ensemble story in a very limited amount of time, some characters just barely registered. I mean, they're all appealing, just some I felt I barely got to know anything about.

I didn't experience that fizzy fun feeling I got from Force Awakens a year ago (to be fair, plenty of people didn't respond that way and thought FA was a lazy reboot/remake of the '77 original). Found Rogue One riveting -- I regret that when I ran the restroom I missed a key scene  retard -- and yet I didn't really feel any pull when I left the theater of running back and seeing it again, and folks here know I did with Force Awakens and at least most things Marvel.

Obviously some of that is different tone for Rogue One. And maybe some of that is Lawrence Kasdan and JJ Abrams having years and years to work on a screenplay, and Rogue One not so much time.

My best friend asked me if I "enjoyed" it, and I'm just not sure that's how I would describe the experience. We all applauded at the end, but there wasn't that sense of joy from a year ago. Other than the funny droid, there's not much humor to be had, and while I guess that makes sense in a battle movie, TESB had tons of humor in spite of all its dark story.

Apples and oranges I know, and who knows -- maybe all that joy for Force Awakens was just finally washing out the bad taste of the previous prequels, and future SW films won't get that kind of reaction.

My comment on stuff near the end...
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really it is a spoiler....
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I thought the ending was basically a rewrite of Captain America: The Winter Soldier, right? The crashing Star Destroyer even looks like a Hellcarrier? Or were Hellcarriers copying Star Destroyers? And she's fiddling essentially with a Western Digital plug-in hard drive instead of 'server blades.' Or is everything Disney destined to end the same?  icon_smile

On that CGI stuff....
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That character....
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Why not just limit him to appearing as a hologram? I think that way we wouldn't be expecting a 'perfect' replication. Honesty, I kept feeling like I was watching a "digital zombie" and it was distracting but didn't ruin the movie for me. smile

Others on blogs have argued, 'why not just re-cast the role?' It's been decades. Doing it this way opens a huge ethical can of worms after the Tron sequel first cracked the door.
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« Reply #42 on: December 18, 2016, 03:23:39 AM »

Family and I saw it Friday night and all thoroughly enjoyed it.
My wife did not notice the CGI characters at all and at the end was confused as to how they made it into the movie. She thought they somehow spliced them in from the old films... so that type of stuff might only be noticeable to us gamer types.
I guess it was darker then the other films, but I didn't see it being a big deal or much different to be honest.
Will agree that the music was disappointing, but stayed through the credits to fix that.
Space scenes were great!
was under the impression/hoping that
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the ground troop battle would be bigger. Thought they were going to have a large force on force (no pun intended) battle. Would have been cool.I did like how the rebel troops did have that ragtag band feel to it. no true uniforms. pieces of different armor, etc....
would have also liked
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A longer Vader scene at the end. He was a highlight..

K2 was awesome and is now my favorite SW droid! He really hit the mark!
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« Reply #43 on: December 19, 2016, 05:40:22 PM »

Saw it opening day and loved it, I think it is my favorite SW movie.  So much stuff made me giddy like a kid, esp all of that last act. 
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« Reply #44 on: December 19, 2016, 08:44:21 PM »

In the year or so leading up to this movie, we kept hearing that Gareth Edwards was basically a Star Wars fanboy. This movie pretty much cements that notion and I commend the fact that he did the property justice without going overboard, IMO.

I saw Rogue One for the second time over the weekend and it was better than the first time since I was able to really pay attention to all the little subtle details. Plus, the sacrifices by the rebels had more emotional impact the second time around. Just a great, great Star Wars movie.
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« Reply #45 on: December 19, 2016, 09:35:09 PM »

On the finale...
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I found it entertaining to see DV act essentially as I did when using the DV token in last year's Star Wars Battlefront. You just quickly rampage and destroy everyone else who isn't also a Hero character. icon_cool I found it entertaining to see just how many different ways he could destroy rebel troops individually.  ninja

And I agree with some takes that the brief glimpse helps "re-establish" him as a true bad ass villain -- someone to be terrified of for more reasons than just basic Force choke holds -- and even maybe helps explain why he's just So Angry at the start of Episode 4.  ninja2
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« Reply #46 on: December 19, 2016, 10:02:33 PM »

I thought the movie was absolutely fantastic.  When I first heard the idea I had my doubts, especially when they talked about it being a kind of "Mission Impossible" type of scenario which I (mistakenly) assumed would occur a while before the first movie.  I interpreted that as being a fun romp, steal the plans, etc. and get out before the dumb empire guys knew what hit them.  I hadn't read about the movie being "darker" so I'm glad I didn't go in with those expectations, and the much weightier feel made for a much stronger movie.  I love that they tied the plot all the way essentially to the beginning of Ep. IV.  Somewhere in the middle of the movie I started realizing they were going to do this and I became almost giddy with anticipation.

As Hark said, I'm sure there are plenty of plot things to pick apart, but at first watch, it answered every question the little kid in me had questioned for almost FORTY years.  It was such a relief to have those nagging nitpicks put to bed.
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« Reply #47 on: December 19, 2016, 10:48:26 PM »

Quote from: rittchard on December 19, 2016, 10:02:33 PM

I thought the movie was absolutely fantastic.  When I first heard the idea I had my doubts, especially when they talked about it being a kind of "Mission Impossible" type of scenario which I (mistakenly) assumed would occur a while before the first movie.  I interpreted that as being a fun romp, steal the plans, etc. and get out before the dumb empire guys knew what hit them.  I hadn't read about the movie being "darker" so I'm glad I didn't go in with those expectations, and the much weightier feel made for a much stronger movie.  I love that they tied the plot all the way essentially to the beginning of Ep. IV.  Somewhere in the middle of the movie I started realizing they were going to do this and I became almost giddy with anticipation.

As Hark said, I'm sure there are plenty of plot things to pick apart, but at first watch, it answered every question the little kid in me had questioned for almost FORTY years.  It was such a relief to have those nagging nitpicks put to bed.

Me too!
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« Reply #48 on: December 21, 2016, 03:28:27 PM »

Saw it last night and loved it.  I was surprised how much territory they covered without the plot feeling stuffed.  We had 3-4 new planets which were each unique enough to really stand out.  

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Of course I felt bad for everyone by the end but really what other outcome could there be unless they all just took a vacation for episode 4, 5, and 6.  

One thing they could have left out....
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Vader's castle.  It really served no purpose other than fan fic.  The information Krennic wanted to tell him could have been done with a simple holo message or even something quicker.  It really was only there to show Vader's crib.
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« Reply #49 on: December 21, 2016, 03:44:31 PM »

I like how you spoilered the location but not  
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"I felt bad for everyone by the end but really what other outcome could there be unless they all just took a vacation for episode 4, 5, and 6."

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If the conversation with Vader could have taken place anywhere, why not have it at his castle?  The location is something Lucas wanted to have in a film years earlier (ESB, IIRC), so that was a nice nod.  Plus, I really like the psychological implication of having it where Anakin met his end.
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« Reply #50 on: December 21, 2016, 04:21:23 PM »

Quote from: Bullwinkle on December 21, 2016, 03:44:31 PM

I like how you spoilered the location but not 
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"I felt bad for everyone by the end but really what other outcome could there be unless they all just took a vacation for episode 4, 5, and 6."

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If the conversation with Vader could have taken place anywhere, why not have it at his castle?  The location is something Lucas wanted to have in a film years earlier (ESB, IIRC), so that was a nice nod.  Plus, I really like the psychological implication of having it where Anakin met his end.

I fixed it...but I still think it is logical
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« Reply #51 on: December 22, 2016, 07:21:30 PM »

See 46 shots that were cut from Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

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« Reply #52 on: January 06, 2017, 02:43:09 PM »

Finally seeing this for the first time tonight. I don't have anything else to add because I've stayed away from everything as much as possible. But I will say that releasing a Star Wars movie during the holiday season when work was insane for both myself and My Fair Lady is going to annoy me in the future if this is how long it's going to take for me to get to it.
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« Reply #53 on: January 06, 2017, 02:51:09 PM »

I hope you love it.  I thought it was quite good.

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« Reply #54 on: January 17, 2017, 03:39:48 PM »

I enjoyed the droid, the death star, and Vader, and that the visual representation is very close to Ep IV.

Otherwise, it was decidedly meh for me.
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« Reply #55 on: January 17, 2017, 06:06:57 PM »

Quote from: Purge on January 17, 2017, 03:39:48 PM

I enjoyed the droid, the death star, and Vader, and that the visual representation is very close to Ep IV.

Otherwise, it was decidedly meh for me.

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« Reply #56 on: January 17, 2017, 08:03:10 PM »

I thought it did a lot better capturing what Star Wars is all about compared to TFA. Much closer to what I expect out of a Star Wars movie. That's down to all the DNA that makes up the movie. Yes, TFA was a sequel, and yes it was SW in name, but it felt decidedly different in its approach, like it was trying to be a modern movie with SW trappings, and to me it lacked heart and the magic wasn't quite there. Meanwhile, this movie had it in spades. It's like they set out to create a movie that could just be fun, instead of worrying too much about living up to being a sequel.
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« Reply #57 on: March 29, 2017, 03:19:26 PM »

Watched this for the first time yesterday, loved it!
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« Reply #58 on: April 22, 2017, 03:44:53 PM »

Adorable Jyn Erso Cosplayer Delivers Death Star Plans to Every Leia She Sees at Star Wars Celebration

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« Reply #59 on: April 24, 2017, 03:02:11 PM »

Quote from: rittchard on January 17, 2017, 06:06:57 PM

Quote from: Purge on January 17, 2017, 03:39:48 PM

I enjoyed the droid, the death star, and Vader, and that the visual representation is very close to Ep IV.

Otherwise, it was decidedly meh for me.

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Tongue Which thread? I missed this post.


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« Reply #60 on: April 24, 2017, 03:24:16 PM »

I just watched this for the second time (and the fact that this much time passed before a second viewing is remarkable).  The family did pancakes and a movie yesterday in the AM, and it was pretty cool.

I enjoyed it a lot more the second time.  I have to learn that I'm coming in with a lot of baggage to these films and need that second viewing where the back of my brain isn't actively making connections to what's come before or passively predicting what might come next.

Some of my bigger gripes are still big gripes, but they had less impact.  I still think Forest Whitaker was little more than a plot device, and that
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we could have used a line about "I won't make it" instead of trying to pass off his facing down an exploding city as somehow noble.
  And we didn't need three tender moments from the main characters in a row at the end.  One of those shots would have sufficed.

I found GMT less distracting this time, and I'm certain that seeing similar characters in video games are the issue.  My wife and child were surprised to learn he was a mostly CG character.

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I also wasn't as bothered by the lower budget Vader outfit, just because I get that they wanted the look at the end to match up with the look at the beginning of Ep 4.  I think some fudgeability would have been accepted, but I appreciate the attention to detail.

For months, I've been saying that the first half of the film was a little too sloppy.  On a second viewing, I don't know if that's really the case, though I still thought it didn't really take off until they got to the Empirical Science Facility in the rain. 

I enjoyed the other characters more this time, too.  I still think they could have used another pass in the writing department, maybe.  I enjoyed Casian more this time, too, even if I think the actor was a little disconnected from his performance.

And the robot was great.  And the ending is still, without doubt, worth the price of admission.
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