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« on: February 13, 2009, 06:18:09 AM »

Doesn't look like there's going to be any miracle involved this time.

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(CNN)  -- A Continental Airlines plane crashed in suburban Buffalo, New York, late Thursday with 44 passengers and four crew members aboard, according to authorities.

Flight 3407, operated by Colgan Air, was en route from Newark, New Jersey, when it went down in Clarence Center, said Bill Peat with New York State Emergency Management in Albany.

The plane crashed about 10:20 p.m., hitting a home and bursting into a fireball, according to New York State Trooper John Manthey.

CNN is reporting multiple fatalities and one confirmed death on the ground.
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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2009, 10:07:58 AM »

Horrible news.  My thoughts go out to their families and loved ones.
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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2009, 01:32:26 PM »

The NY Times website has an MP3 download of the air traffic control conversations. The plane apparently never reported a problem, but you can hear ATC asking other aircraft to look for the missing flight and then notifying emergency services.
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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2009, 07:25:48 PM »

One of the people on the plane was a 9/11 widow. She won the effing lottery in this life didn't she?  icon_frown
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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2009, 09:05:38 PM »

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on February 13, 2009, 07:25:48 PM

One of the people on the plane was a 9/11 widow. She won the effing lottery in this life didn't she?  icon_frown

Actually, the odds of a close family member of a 9/11 victim dying in a plane crash within 10 years of 9/11 is probably pretty statistically significant. 
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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2009, 09:14:18 PM »

Quote from: Blackadar on February 13, 2009, 09:05:38 PM

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on February 13, 2009, 07:25:48 PM

One of the people on the plane was a 9/11 widow. She won the effing lottery in this life didn't she?  icon_frown

Actually, the odds of a close family member of a 9/11 victim dying in a plane crash within 10 years of 9/11 is probably pretty statistically significant. 

I would bet it's not. I'm terrible with stats, but according to wiki the odds are 53 million to 1 average joes die in a plane crash. I have no idea how do to the math, but even with 3500 people dying on 9/11 and assuming family size of 4 people in the immediate family that adds up to south of 15000 total people in that demographic. I'm not sure that 15,000 is a large enough number to roll into that 53 million odds number to significantly increase those odds.

But, like I said, I have no idea how you would arrive at that.

Also, I didn't necessarily mean my comment from that perspective. Just that she (and hers) had already been through more tragedy than anyone should have to deal with...and now this.
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« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2009, 11:37:17 PM »

so much for the x months without a airline fatality.  frown
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« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2009, 11:47:57 PM »

Quote from: Caine on February 13, 2009, 11:37:17 PM

so much for the x months without a airline fatality.  frown

Yeah, I think it was a little over two years.
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« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2009, 09:47:42 AM »

Apparently 2 years is a record.  Wow I would have thought that it was longer.  Reading an article today, it stated that suddenly the plane experienced a 'severe pitch and roll'.  Can someone with flying/flight simming experience explain exactly what that means?
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« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2009, 11:00:38 AM »

It means it nose dived while banking sharply.
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« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2009, 01:08:52 PM »

It means that the wings iced over and immediately lost all lift. Very sad thing.
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