Pixar-Finding Dory

[metallicorphan]

Apparently in the works

A sequel to Finding Nemo has been confirmed, with Andrew Stanton to direct the new fishy tale, according to showbiz websites.

The news comes in the wake of Stanton's disastrous live-action feature directing debut John Carter, which flopped at the box office, leading to a $200m (£128m) loss for Disney earlier this year.

But Stanton won two Oscars for his animation work on Wall-E and the original 2003 Finding Nemo and has played a big role in many of Pixar’s hits going back to Toy Story, including co-directing 1999's A Bug's Life.

The computer-animated undersea adventure Finding Nemo grossed $867.9m (£557m) worldwide, making it Pixar’s second highest-grossing film and the third-biggest Disney animated film release ever, after Toy Story 3.

Although Stanton is said to have been confirmed officially as the director of the latest Nemo outing, Disney and Pixar are keeping the news close to their chests, as they do not comment officially on projects in the pipeline.

The new story of the little clownfish Nemo is currently scheduled for release in 2016, while the original underwater adventure is due to be re-released in 3D in September.


Andrew Stanton will direct the new film
The Pixar classic, which won an Academy Award for Best Animated Picture, starred Ellen DeGeneres, Albert Brooks and Willem Dafoe as the voices of Nemo, Marlin and company.

The scriptwriter for the new tale will be Victoria Strouse, with Lindsey Collins producing, but no further plot details have been revealed, according to the Hollywood Reporter.

Deadline.com reports that Pixar and Disney executives are thrilled about Stanton's concept for the follow-up movie.

Toy Story 3 and Cars 2 have already been released, and a Monsters, Inc. prequel is also on the way.

[CeeKay]

meh.


translation: where the hell is The Incredibles 2 Pixar?

[EngineNo9]

Oh great, another sequel.  The brain drain continues at Disney.

[farley2k]

I loved William Defoe as company.  He was outstanding.

[CeeKay]

I think we need a change to the thread title:

[leo8877]

Very excited that it's taking place off of the CA coast!

[ATB]

meh.


translation: where the hell is The Incredibles 2 Pixar?

Yes. The only pixar franchise that really warrants a sequel. (Though Toy Story 2 was phenominal, 3 notsomuch).

[Bullwinkle]

meh.


translation: where the hell is The Incredibles 2 Pixar?

Yes. The only pixar franchise that really warrants a sequel. (Though Toy Story 2 was phenominal, 3 notsomuch).

??? You have that backwards.

[metallicorphan]

I liked both



Ceekay,is that definitely NOT a late April Fool???

I'll change the thread title anyway

[CeeKay]

Ceekay,is that definitely NOT a late April Fool???

Fox news is saying so so it must be true

[kratz]

Toy Story 2 and 3 were both amazing.

[ATB]

Yeah the part where they were all sure they were going to die, give into that fact and grimly hold hands to meet their firey awful end was great fun.

[Suitably Ironic Moniker]

It was a little dark, but the theater full of kids where I saw it seemed to handle it fine.

[metallicorphan]

Ceekay,is that definitely NOT a late April Fool???

Fox news is saying so so it must be true

 

[Bullwinkle]

Yeah the part where they were all sure they were going to die, give into that fact and grimly hold hands to meet their firey awful end was great fun.

But you know what happened then?  They didn't die.

[wonderpug]

Yeah the part where they were all sure they were going to die, give into that fact and grimly hold hands to meet their firey awful end was great fun.

But you know what happened then?  They didn't die.

It was still a pretty disturbing scene that seemed out of place.  It's probably adding a few years to the age I'll be ok with my kids seeing the movie.  The rest of the movie was fantastic, though.

[Caine]

both of my kids made it through without scarring at age 3 and 5. 


although the boy does dress in black and occasionally has burials for his action figures, but I'm sure that's unrelated.

[Bullwinkle]

For the love of God, don't let your children see the children's movie Up, then.

Stick to the filtered cartoons from the 80s when parents decided there shouldn't be any conflict or scary things in movies at all.  In other words, no story telling.

These kids today...we had child snatchers with stabby noses and creepy barred carts and chickens getting their heads cut off on boat rides and heffalumps and woozles giving our teddy bears nightmares, not to mention children being turned into donkeys for playing cards and fawns' mothers being shot in the woods (or rabid childhood friends shot out back) and godammned flying monkeys.

This nerf football is mine now.

[Arnir]

Studies of Disney films, especially when Walt himself was still at the helm, are pretty clear that maturation and control are at the center of many of these films. Walt had a bad childhood with a control freak father.  His art quite often has the themes of kids dealing with bad things and coming out victorious.  Disney films stress a way to overcome evil and danger, they aren't about the lack of danger.  He wanted kids to know that they could stand up and win if they were true and steadfast.  (We can argue what that means). 

I grew up with Bambi and Old Yeller, etc.  Good won in the end, but there were scars and scares along the way.  Drama and triumph demands it.

[ATB]

For the love of God, don't let your children see the children's movie Up, then.

I won't. Pixar went off the rails with that movie.

Stick to the filtered cartoons from the 80s when parents decided there shouldn't be any conflict or scary things in movies at all.  In other words, no story telling.

Wrong decade, son!  80s cartoons had hella violence

[Bullwinkle]

For the love of God, don't let your children see the children's movie Up, then.

I won't. Pixar went off the rails with that movie.

Stick to the filtered cartoons from the 80s when parents decided there shouldn't be any conflict or scary things in movies at all.  In other words, no story telling.

Wrong decade, son!  80s cartoons had hella violence

Care Bears, Smurfs, Berenstein Bears, Ewoks, Jem, My Little Pony, Rainbow Brite, Shirt Tales, Strawberry Shortcake all started in the 80s.

You may be talking about the GI Joe or He-Man type shows for the "hella violence" but take a look back and see how many people were killed or even hurt more than blandly knocked unconscious in those shows.

However, don't bother posting here, as you comment about Up has made all future comments irrelavent.

[metallicorphan]

Absolutely loved 'Up'..the dog stole the show
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQb84PNxu5A

[pr0ner]

The beginning of Up was one of the rare times a movie made the room get dusty in the first 5 minutes.  Brilliant in every way.

[ATB]

For the love of God, don't let your children see the children's movie Up, then.

I won't. Pixar went off the rails with that movie.

Stick to the filtered cartoons from the 80s when parents decided there shouldn't be any conflict or scary things in movies at all.  In other words, no story telling.

Wrong decade, son!  80s cartoons had hella violence

Care Bears, Smurfs, Berenstein Bears, Ewoks, Jem, My Little Pony, Rainbow Brite, Shirt Tales, Strawberry Shortcake all started in the 80s.

You may be talking about the GI Joe or He-Man type shows for the "hella violence" but take a look back and see how many people were killed or even hurt more than blandly knocked unconscious in those shows.

However, don't bother posting here, as you comment about Up has made all future comments irrelavent.

You're saying lots of people died in the jetsons, flinstones, and on howdy doody? How about fat albert, hong kong fooey and josie and the pussycats?  And how many people died on Bugs Bunny, Woody Woodpecker or Tom and Jerry (other than the occasional gun to the head)?

I'm not sure what we're discussing here. You're saying there used to be rampant death and violence in cartoons? When was this? Name a few.

As for up. To Pr0ner's point, the first portion of the movie is excellent.  The whole psycho bad guy trope didn't fit the movie and the fact that he was a psycho wanna be kid killer wasn't particularly great either.

[Bullwinkle]

For the love of God, don't let your children see the children's movie Up, then.

I won't. Pixar went off the rails with that movie.

Stick to the filtered cartoons from the 80s when parents decided there shouldn't be any conflict or scary things in movies at all.  In other words, no story telling.

Wrong decade, son!  80s cartoons had hella violence

Care Bears, Smurfs, Berenstein Bears, Ewoks, Jem, My Little Pony, Rainbow Brite, Shirt Tales, Strawberry Shortcake all started in the 80s.

You may be talking about the GI Joe or He-Man type shows for the "hella violence" but take a look back and see how many people were killed or even hurt more than blandly knocked unconscious in those shows.

However, don't bother posting here, as you comment about Up has made all future comments irrelavent.

You're saying lots of people died in the jetsons, flinstones, and on howdy doody? How about fat albert, hong kong fooey and josie and the pussycats?  And how many people died on Bugs Bunny, Woody Woodpecker or Tom and Jerry (other than the occasional gun to the head)?

I'm not sure what we're discussing here. You're saying there used to be rampant death and violence in cartoons? When was this? Name a few.

As for up. To Pr0ner's point, the first portion of the movie is excellent.  The whole psycho bad guy trope didn't fit the movie and the fact that he was a psycho wanna be kid killer wasn't particularly great either.

What we're discussing is that when people try to take conflict and danger out of children's entertainment, we get crap like Snorks.  When real life elements are allowed, we can have great moments like the beginning of Up, the ending of Toy Story 3 (both the danger-filled one and the "why would you want to make kids and grown-ups cry?" bittersweet one), even, frankly, the Harry Potter books, which have become literary classics in their lifetime, opened the door for really great storytelling form others, and would not exist in the neutered world where we try to "protect" the children.

[ATB]

Which cartoons had death and violence?

Edit:

just reviewed your list:

Care Bears, Smurfs, Berenstein Bears, Ewoks, Jem, My Little Pony, Rainbow Brite, Shirt Tales, Strawberry Shortcake all started in the 80s.

Why were you watching so many girl shows or shows where girls were the target audience?

[metallicorphan]

HEY!!!!...Ewoks is in that list,i watched Ewoks!! 

[wonderpug]

I think we can agree that the group accepting firey death Toy Story 3 scene was the darkest scene in the movie, yes?  Or at least that it was a pretty darn grisly scene compared to the rest of the movie?

After that, you're just rejecting the notion that people can have different thresholds for what they think is kid-appropriate.  Caine is fine with his 3-year-old seeing the scene.  Super.  I think my 3-year-old wouldn't handle it too well.  Also super.

This isn't about the neutering of modern youth.  I think there's a big difference between James having his parents eaten by a rhino and an entire cast of main characters holding hands and deciding to give up trying to survive.

[Suitably Ironic Moniker]

Which cartoons had death and violence? Really? Have you seen Bambi? Or Dumbo? Where were Snow White's real parents? I don't think Gaston survived his Nestea plunge from the top of the Beast's castle. These sorts of scenes and themes can help to expose children to the darker sides of our lives and society, but to do so in a controlled environment, giving the parents a chance to explain and answer questions. I'd rather my kid watch Bambi or E.T., rather than seeing his first on-screen killing in a Rambo film.

On-topic, as much I hate that Pixar has turned into a sequel factory, Dory is one of my all-time favorite characters, so I am looking forward to this one. Swimming-swimming, just keep swimming.

[wonderpug]

 

I don't think Gaston survived his Nestea plunge from the top of the Beast's castle.

The product placement they've been inserting into these movie rereleases is getting out of hand.

[Jimmy the Fish]

Noticed that Andrew Stanton is the director of this, which is fascinating to me since he was the director of the mega-flop that was John Carter. A buddy of mine who knows people within Pixar says Stanton will never direct another live action film again as long as he is still within the Disney movie collective.

[ATB]

Which cartoons had death and violence? Really? Have you seen Bambi? Or Dumbo? Where were Snow White's real parents? I don't think Gaston survived his Nestea plunge from the top of the Beast's castle. These sorts of scenes and themes can help to expose children to the darker sides of our lives and society,

He cited kids shows. Not movies.

[Purge]

Which cartoons had death and violence? Really? Have you seen Bambi? Or Dumbo? Where were Snow White's real parents? I don't think Gaston survived his Nestea plunge from the top of the Beast's castle. These sorts of scenes and themes can help to expose children to the darker sides of our lives and society,

He cited kids shows. Not movies.

You're standing IN the soapbox, friend. That is semantics. Up is a movie from Disney, the crux of the argument is violence / perceived danger and kids being able to watch it.

I *VIVIDLY* remember Ironhide being snuffed out in Transformers (the movie). Until that scene, there was never any risk from those silly glowing shots from either side - and that's two seasons in.

Bugs Bunny is all about violence, even if it doesn't show consequence. Hell, in TS3, the bad guy doesn't even die - he just ends up as a garbage truck mascot.

What do you think of The Lion King  - you know, where the uncle kills Simba's father (aka his brother) in cold blood? Little Mermaid had the witch skewered by a sunken ship (little girl movie, right?).

I choose not to expose my kid to certain films (mostly ones that feature horrid behaviour during his developmental cycle). That doesn't mean I'm disillusioned to the fact that violence in childrens entertainment has existed well before "Disney Went Off The Rails".

Cripes, Rescuers Down Under had the same psychopath - as did Cruella DeVille who wanted to make coats out of puppies. The list goes on.

[wonderpug]

I remember as a kid thinking how amazing Pirates of Darkwater was for being bold enough to permanently kill off a character.

There are also some interesting examples from children's literature.  Dr. Seuss's Thidwick, the Big-Hearted Moose (1948) features Thidwick pushing off several dozen forest creatures to be shot by hunters.  The closing scene shows them all dead, mounted on the wall "stuffed, as they should be."

"Get that moose!
Get that moose!"
Thidwick heard a voice call.
"Fire again and again
And shoot straight, one and all!
We must get his head
For the Harvard Club wall!"

[Suitably Ironic Moniker]

Noticed that Andrew Stanton is the director of this, which is fascinating to me since he was the director of the mega-flop that was John Carter. A buddy of mine who knows people within Pixar says Stanton will never direct another live action film again as long as he is still within the Disney movie collective.

Stanton also directed a little film called "Finding Nemo". And that's...the rest of the story!

[Bullwinkle]

I remember as a kid thinking how amazing Pirates of Darkwater was for being bold enough to permanently kill off a character.

There are also some interesting examples from children's literature.  Dr. Seuss's Thidwick, the Big-Hearted Moose (1948) features Thidwick pushing off several dozen forest creatures to be shot by hunters.  The closing scene shows them all dead, mounted on the wall "stuffed, as they should be."

"Get that moose!
Get that moose!"
Thidwick heard a voice call.
"Fire again and again
And shoot straight, one and all!
We must get his head
For the Harvard Club wall!"

Hooray for the moose!

I just want to point out that until this thread, I didn't think the scene in Toy Story 3 was problematic at all, on any level except as an emotional one.  It never even occurred to me that it would be an issue.  I think the dramatic impact that follows is far more severe and important.

[ATB]

You're standing IN the soapbox, friend. That is semantics.

 

Not sure that it is. Two vastly different media.

[wonderpug]

I just want to point out that until this thread, I didn't think the scene in Toy Story 3 was problematic at all, on any level except as an emotional one.  It never even occurred to me that it would be an issue.  I think the dramatic impact that follows is far more severe and important.

It's not the only time Pixar has featured dark content.  To me the Toy Story 3 scene just pushed it a few levels further than they had done before.

[Bullwinkle]

You're standing IN the soapbox, friend. That is semantics.

 

Not sure that it is. Two vastly different media.

But clearly it wasn't all I was talking about, as Purge points out.  Dinsey was notoriously spiraling at the time, in fact, until The Little Mermaid (which they thought would underperform Oliver & Co, by the way) pointed the way.

[ATB]

Ok, B dubs. I don't want to 

Spoiler for Hiden:

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Note: i put the end of that sentence into spoilz because it's so violent.