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EddieA
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« on: November 04, 2015, 02:32:27 AM »

CBS has announced that a new Star Trek TV series is coming in January 2017.  The show will be produced by Alex Kurtzman, who co-wrote and produced the two most recent Trek movies, although this show won't have anything to do with the movies.  Unfortunately, the show (after the pilot) will only be available on CBS All Access for $5.99/month.  Even after the success of the recent movies, I wasn't sure this would ever happen, so I won't mind paying when the time comes.
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« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2015, 05:32:18 PM »

Wow that's kind of irritating.  I've been dying for a new Star Trek series and this is the format they go with?  I already have Directv, Hulu, Netflix and Amazon.  Now I have to pay for CBS too for a single show I want to see?  Are ABC and NBC going to follow suit too?

As a side topic, I really wonder if crap like this is what will ultimately screw the cord-cutting effort.  How many of these exclusive one/two-off shows to sell a service can be sustained?  I guess you could argue it's my own fault for wanting to see these specific shows, but I doubt I'm the only person who's in that boat. 
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« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2015, 05:43:19 PM »

I kind of get the annoyance, but is really that bad? 

If the show is weekly that is 4 episodes a month, shows have always been an hour so 4 hours for 5.99 - so roughly $1.50 an hour.   That feels quite cheap.
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« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2015, 06:12:38 PM »

I think they're kind of overestimating Trek's popularity at this point. Trek as a series hasn't been on the air since Enterprise, and I think at this point, they'd need all the viewers they can get, rather than constraining it behind a paywall and limiting its viewers. If they're expecting it to drive their subscription service, they might want to rethink that. The fanbase is already divided enough as it is. Is it really healthy for the franchise to divide itself between those who will/can pay for a service and those that can't? It's the kind of thing that would limit watercooler talk, which is a healthy sign for a series as it shows trending and gets people to check it out. I mean, look at the Walking Dead. I hear so much talk about that, and I don't even watch it myself, but there are times that I think to myself that maybe I should at least check it out. With a show behind a paywall, it's much less likely to happen.

No, my opinion at this point is that a series would need all the viewership it can. It needs a shot in the arm. Otherwise it might just linger.
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« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2015, 06:27:15 PM »

Quote from: Rumpy on November 04, 2015, 06:12:38 PM

I think they're kind of overestimating Trek's popularity at this point. Trek as a series hasn't been on the air since Enterprise, and I think at this point, they'd need all the viewers they can get, rather than constraining it behind a paywall and limiting its viewers. If they're expecting it to drive their subscription service, they might want to rethink that. The fanbase is already divided enough as it is. Is it really healthy for the franchise to divide itself between those who will/can pay for a service and those that can't? It's the kind of thing that would limit watercooler talk, which is a healthy sign for a series as it shows trending and gets people to check it out. I mean, look at the Walking Dead. I hear so much talk about that, and I don't even watch it myself, but there are times that I think to myself that maybe I should at least check it out. With a show behind a paywall, it's much less likely to happen.

No, my opinion at this point is that a series would need all the viewership it can. It needs a shot in the arm. Otherwise it might just linger.

Totally agree with all of this!!!

To farley, of course you are right that it's not that bad in and of itself.  I'm just afraid ABC, NBC, FOX, CW, AMC, etc will all follow suit.  Even if the cost is not that much per network, just needing to swap to a different app for each one just seems annoying.  Not to mention that many people are already paying for the "regular" CBS by virtue of their general service, so it creates this weird paywall/tier effect that Rumpy talked about. 
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« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2015, 07:36:25 PM »

Quote from: Rumpy on November 04, 2015, 06:12:38 PM

I think they're kind of overestimating Trek's popularity at this point. Trek as a series hasn't been on the air since Enterprise, and I think at this point, they'd need all the viewers they can get, rather than constraining it behind a paywall and limiting its viewers. If they're expecting it to drive their subscription service, they might want to rethink that. The fanbase is already divided enough as it is. Is it really healthy for the franchise to divide itself between those who will/can pay for a service and those that can't? It's the kind of thing that would limit watercooler talk, which is a healthy sign for a series as it shows trending and gets people to check it out. I mean, look at the Walking Dead. I hear so much talk about that, and I don't even watch it myself, but there are times that I think to myself that maybe I should at least check it out. With a show behind a paywall, it's much less likely to happen.

No, my opinion at this point is that a series would need all the viewership it can. It needs a shot in the arm. Otherwise it might just linger.

I don't think they're overestimating the Trek popularity in the sense that they can definitely make money off of the fans out there, but I still agree that it's stupid to do so for all the reasons you said. 

And Trek needs to grow beyond the people rabid enough to shell out.
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« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2015, 09:52:39 PM »

Quote from: Bullwinkle on November 04, 2015, 07:36:25 PM



I don't think they're overestimating the Trek popularity in the sense that they can definitely make money off of the fans out there, but I still agree that it's stupid to do so for all the reasons you said.

And Trek needs to grow beyond the people rabid enough to shell out.

Oh, I don't doubt they'd make money off its fans, but that's where it will likely stop due to the barrier they're creating.  And definitely agreed that it needs to grow beyond those fans. Even with the popularity of the new movies and the new fans coming into the franchise,  I'd consider the franchise unstable at best, recovering from a long slumber. And then there are those casual fans that might be interested in some new Trek, but not interested enough that they'd shell out for a new service to see it. It's just so stupid to block away a certain segment of your viewers when a simpler solution could be welcoming to all. Someone didn't fully think this through.


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« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2015, 02:40:51 AM »

The paywall model is going to flop. This series will either die or move to broadcast after one season. People who grew up with ST -- presumably a good portion of the loyal fanbase -- are my age, and we aren't all down with this newfangled "streaming" thing.

Even if I have a streaming TV by 2017 I'm too cheap to subscribe to something for one show. I'll wait for the dvd release or syndication run, thanks.
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« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2015, 02:59:08 PM »

Quote from: Ironrod on November 06, 2015, 02:40:51 AM

The paywall model is going to flop. This series will either die or move to broadcast after one season. People who grew up with ST -- presumably a good portion of the loyal fanbase -- are my age, and we aren't all down with this newfangled "streaming" thing.

Even if I have a streaming TV by 2017 I'm too cheap to subscribe to something for one show. I'll wait for the dvd release or syndication run, thanks.

Or just pirate it when it comes out.

I completely agree with everything you said though. I'm damn 'old-style' in my age it seems. I have no Twitter, I have no Facebook, I have no Hulu, I have no Netflix, I have no nothing. My TV doesn't even get turned on unless it's to play my gaming consoles.
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« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2015, 11:13:46 PM »

Quote from: Destructor on November 06, 2015, 02:59:08 PM

Quote from: Ironrod on November 06, 2015, 02:40:51 AM

The paywall model is going to flop. This series will either die or move to broadcast after one season. People who grew up with ST -- presumably a good portion of the loyal fanbase -- are my age, and we aren't all down with this newfangled "streaming" thing.

Even if I have a streaming TV by 2017 I'm too cheap to subscribe to something for one show. I'll wait for the dvd release or syndication run, thanks.

Or just pirate it when it comes out.

I completely agree with everything you said though. I'm damn 'old-style' in my age it seems. I have no Twitter, I have no Facebook, I have no Hulu, I have no Netflix, I have no nothing. My TV doesn't even get turned on unless it's to play my gaming consoles.

We bought our TV before streaming was a thing, when they were still crazy expensive. I think we paid $1,200 for a 42" set with no tuner and one HDMI port. We also bought a new home-theater sound system and DVD player at the same time. I am loathe to mess with that setup by trying to add streaming capability -- getting it to work in the first place was complicated enough. You practically have to be an electronics engineer to watch TV anymore.

That said, our TV is approaching 10 years old so realistically we might need to replace it by 2017. If I do get a whiz-bang internet TV I will have to reevaluate our entire setup. We use it mostly for watching movies on DVD and recording half a dozen series off the cable. I don't expect that a tech upgrade would change our viewing habits very much, although I might dump the cable in favor of streaming services if I can save money on the programming that we already watch. Still can't see myself shelling out $6 for ST, though, especially if the new series is going to follow the action-adventure mentality of the rebooted movies.
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« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2015, 09:10:00 PM »

Another divisive factor might be the choice of timeline that the show takes place in. With Orci producing, I would be surprised if it didn't take place in this new timeline, which a lot of folks do not like. Personally, I don't mind, as long as they use the opportunity to make new stories, not just riff off of the iconic characters and plots of the original timeline.
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« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2015, 08:04:32 PM »

Yeah, that was another thought while writing my original post on this. I felt that the announcement already implied the timeline by choice of producer. I think a series in that timeline could still work, but I'd prefer a distinct separate voice from the movies, with a producer unaffiliated with them.
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