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Question: Should Blackjack see the re-release of "Halloween" or "Psycho" in a theater on Oct. 29th?  (Voting closed: October 30, 2015, 08:45:02 PM)
Halloween - 3 (37.5%)
Psycho - 5 (62.5%)
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« on: October 28, 2015, 08:45:02 PM »

I can catch the re-release of Halloween or Psycho tomorrow (Oct. 29) but not both, because they're each playing at about the same time. So vote on which one I should see.  Bring your own!

Sorry, you bastiges can't send me to a terrible Saw sequel this time! smirk

It's only a 2-day poll since the movies are only playing in theaters Oct. 29.
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« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2015, 08:48:15 PM »

I love both, don't get me wrong.  But Halloween is so quintessentially Halloween that I can't imagine doing anything else.
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« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2015, 10:35:28 PM »

Quote from: hepcat on October 28, 2015, 08:48:15 PM

I love both, don't get me wrong.  But Halloween is so quintessentially Halloween that I can't imagine doing anything else.
Basic cable has dug out so much crap, including most of the Halloween sequels, and to me the original Halloween stands out for being subtle, and spending maybe a good 80 minutes building mood before the bloodletting. I felt the sequels moved too much into 1st person view, where the creepiness in Carpenter's film -- aside from some 1st person view with young Michael initially -- is seeing Myers in the distance, on the edge of the frame, lurking or moving methodically.

Lot of people credit (blame?) Halloween for all the 1980s slasher flicks but really most took their queue from Friday the 13th's body count and graphic gore and not really giving characters even a modest set up before knocking them off. I feel like in Halloween you get to know Jamie Lee Curtis and her friends just enough, and Donald Pleasance just enough to feel at least something later in the movie. I'll admit in my teens I saw about every slasher film ever made at the army base theaters in Korea. That may have been the only time I got to see Halloween in a theater. I was only 13 when it released. I remember being bummed I couldn't see that or Phantasm the next year.  icon_smile

I finally watched Rob Zombie's gorefest/meat house Halloween I/II reboots, and just didn't see the point. I felt like Carpenter was painting the original movie with a scalpel and Zombie was using a meat hook.  icon_smile If one's in the mood for gore, they might satisfy a bit, but I doubt they'll get re-releases 37 years after release.  icon_smile
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« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2015, 11:14:43 PM »

Quote from: hepcat on October 28, 2015, 08:48:15 PM

I love both, don't get me wrong.  But Halloween is so quintessentially Halloween that I can't imagine doing anything else.

I agree with what hep said.

I have to point out a bit of history here, though.  If you have not seen Black Christmas, which came out four years before (and was directed by the guy who did both Porky's and A Chritmas Story), you're in for a shock.  It's kind of incredible how much Halloween essentially ripped off Black Christmas (not to mention so many other 70s/80s horror films).  It kind of knocked Halloween off its pedestal for me (though I still like it).

Oh, also it has John Saxon, Margot Kidder and, of all people, Andrea Martin! 

Of course, your local theater isn't showing Black Christmas, Blackjack, so I still voted for Halloween.
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« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2015, 01:38:47 PM »

I love Halloween and I own the series Blu-Ray Box Set and I would pick Psycho as it much more of a classic than Halloween.   Alfred Hitchcock on a big screen shouldn't be missed, imo
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« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2015, 05:15:47 PM »

Thanks, guys. Haven't decided yet, but this fun and I appreciate folks playing along.  icon_smile

My brother and my mom ( Fabulous!) vote for Psycho. My brother cause it's classic, my mom because... well, she's my mom.  icon_smile No, she thinks Halloween and the ilk are too gore-fest though of course my point is it's maybe one of a handful of slasher films more focused on building suspense.

The only reason part of me siding with Halloween is this is a special "Fantom Events" event, one night, and I don't know if it'll be in theaters again. Perhaps in 2018 for the 40th anniversary. This Hitchcock Month stuff (Turner Classic Movies sponsored a showing of a classic Hitch film each week this month at various arthouse type movie theaters) is a semi-regular thing so I'm sure Psycho will come around again some time.

Though right now, the poll's 4-3 for Psycho and of course I'd abide by it - otherwise, why do a poll? icon_smile I'm sure I'll have a good time either way.

I'm not sure I have Halloween on DVD, but I did buy some special VHS collector's set many years ago.

On the sequels, Carpenter said in interviews that he and co-writer/producer Debra Hill were contractually obligated for two sequels, so they produced Halloween II with Rick Rosenthal directing (I believe Rosenthal disowned the movie, blaming Carpenter for meddling and inserting ultra-graphic violence sequences, presumably to keep up with the Friday the 13ths in body count/gore), and then that wonky Halloween III with the kiddy mask sci-fi angle (think Tommy Lee Wallace directed). I don't think Carpenter/Hill had any further involvement after that, though I recall reading they tried to lure Carpenter back for Halloween H20 -- I think Carpenter wanted to do something different and not "just another slasher movie," to the studio balked.

I still find Halloween 2's finale thrilling (oxygen room at the hospital etc.), but felt like by having a body count sprinkled throughout the movie, most of them characters we don't get to know even a little -- more in the Friday the 13th vein - it loses something. Also, Jamie Lee Curtis is always a slasher films' best asset, and reducing her to a concussed, drugged patient with virtually no dialogue (just constant 'gaaaaaaaaaah' and 'guuuuuh!') is a poor use of her imho. That was on AMC last night, so it's fresh in my mind.

Carpenter was in the news recently for suing Luc Besson over the sci-fi actioner Lockout (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockout_(film)), saying it was a ripoff of Escape from New York. He apparently won but got very little money from it.
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« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2015, 08:20:34 PM »

Hmm, I guess they've done this Halloween re-release in years past too, I just don't remember it being at theaters reasonably near me:
http://www.halloweendailynews.com/2014/09/john-carpenters-halloween-rerelease.html

So I feel safe no matter what I do, that I should be able to catch the other next year. Assuming I survive another year.  paranoid icon_razz

UPDATE: Soooo, just found out the Halloween ticket is $15 (!), and the Psycho ticket is $7. The Psycho show is really crowded, but not in the front section where I like to sit.

So I think I'll have to go with Psycho. I understand 7:30 pm isn't a matinee time but charging full price for a 37 year old film seems like a bit of price gouging on AMC's part.  disgust
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« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2015, 02:36:10 PM »

Quote from: Blackjack on October 29, 2015, 05:15:47 PM

No, she thinks Halloween and the ilk are too gore-fest though of course my point is it's maybe one of a handful of slasher films more focused on building suspense.


You would be right, in my opinion.  There's a surprising lack of gore in Halloween.  It's mostly suspense that drives the fear, not shock.
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« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2015, 03:24:31 PM »

So I went with Psycho, mainly due to the ticket price. Seemed bizarre for AMC to charge full price for Halloween -- I could maybe understand if it was a "remastered" movie or something.

Psycho was a blast, though I forgot how long the movie takes to get to the Bates Motel - a good half hour. After that, it moves like a bullet.

One thing I forgot was the movie basically lists ALL the credits - including cast - during opening credits. So when the film ends with the transition from "Norman/Mother" in the police station room to the car with the corpses/money being dredged out of the swamp, that's it. BOOM. The movie ends with "THE END" on screen, and no credits after that. I'm actually not sure. Maybe the theater cut off the credits to shorten the screening time?

Theater was pretty crowded. I'm sure partly on price, but this is kind of an art house mutliplex, and so it draws a lot of fans interested in seeing rereleases of classic older movies.

Loved hearing the Bernard Herrmann score in a theater:

Psyco musical score
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMTrVgpDwPk

I recall Re-Animator (1985) got some crap for seeming to lift much of its musical score from Psycho's theme. Now Re-Animator is definitely another re-release I'd see, though that's more likely to happen as an 11:45-midnight late show. Probably not Turner Classic Movies promotional rerelease fare.  icon_smile

My only technical complaint was a lot of the "distant" scenes in Psycho at the theater seemed awfully blurry. Zoomed in scenes and character close ups looked great to me. I don't know if it's some limitation of playing a 55 year old "analog" movie on a digital projector, or if maybe it was because I sat so close (3rd row). I'd probably need to see it on TV or DVD to judge if it was projection flaw or if maybe Hitchcock really filmed those scenes in a blurry fashion.  icon_smile
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« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2015, 12:33:23 AM »

I really regret not going to see Psycho in the theater when it played a few weeks ago. I couldn't get anyone to go with me, my wife didn't want to go, so I just said screw it and stayed home. I also missed the Jaws re-release, but I was out of town that weekend so at least I had an excuse.

I did, however, see Halloween in the theater when they did the 35th anniversary re-release. That was a really good time. They had a bonus featurette that ran before the film that was really entertaining, and we had a good crowd that definitely appreciated the film.

After having seen Halloween and now Back to the Future 2 re-releases, I'm probably going to go see every big re-release that comes out. Both of those experiences were just a ton of fun, because the people that come out and pay $10 to see a movie they could watch at home instantly are the real nerds who love and appreciate the movie.
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« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2015, 04:33:39 PM »

Quote from: YellowKing on November 02, 2015, 12:33:23 AM

I really regret not going to see Psycho in the theater when it played a few weeks ago. I couldn't get anyone to go with me, my wife didn't want to go, so I just said screw it and stayed home. I also missed the Jaws re-release, but I was out of town that weekend so at least I had an excuse.

I did, however, see Halloween in the theater when they did the 35th anniversary re-release. That was a really good time. They had a bonus featurette that ran before the film that was really entertaining, and we had a good crowd that definitely appreciated the film.

After having seen Halloween and now Back to the Future 2 re-releases, I'm probably going to go see every big re-release that comes out. Both of those experiences were just a ton of fun, because the people that come out and pay $10 to see a movie they could watch at home instantly are the real nerds who love and appreciate the movie.
I got more at ease with going to movies solo as I got older, though I do enjoy catching stuff with friends and family when schedules permit.

I remember when I saw Birdman late last year after work. Initially I felt awkward sitting solo in one the first few front rows. But as the time moved closer to trailer-start time, more and more solo moviegoers - both men and women - shuffled into seats near me. When the movie started, I felt surrounded by solo fellow moviegoers. One could look at that as sad -- are we all this lonely?  icon_smile -- but I really felt comforted by it at the time.

My brother's getting divorced soon but for many years we'd decide what movies to see based on the "oh my wife won't see that with me" factor. So mostly that was horror films and action movies.  icon_smile

I don't think I ever went to movies solo until my 2nd year of high school on the army base in Seoul, Korea. I didn't make any close friends, and there was no Internet. I ended up catching a lot of movies solo, and I think I felt more self conscious about it at that age. Eventually it just became second nature, and I spent a lot of time in Army base theaters in 1981-1983, catching movies on the cheap.

I remember in 1981 my mom kindly agreed to attend the slasher film Prom Night (I was 16, not 17 yet) when the ticket cashier at the Army base theater refused to let me get a ticket. We didn't sit together (she liked to sit towards back of theater), but I remember walking over to me afterwards and saying "That was horrible!"  icon_smile The things parents do for children, right?  icon_smile

Anyway, I think catching movies solo so much has made me more grateful when I can catch stuff with friends/family. My mom and I had a good time watching The Martian (2nd viewing for me) on Saturday. A few Saturdays ago, an old work bud and I met to see the Austrian horror film "Good Night, Mommy." My brother and I caught "The Visit" a few weeks earlier.
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