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« Reply #120 on: July 08, 2011, 06:57:56 PM »

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« Reply #121 on: July 08, 2011, 07:13:36 PM »

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« Reply #122 on: July 11, 2011, 02:13:42 AM »

Dean Lombardi speaking on the Ryan Smyth trade:

"The bottom line for me, I would have rather invested my money with Bernie Madoff than invest in Edmonton's word".
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« Reply #123 on: July 11, 2011, 02:16:52 AM »

Yeah Dean is not happy that Edmonton didn't disclose a cyst in whatshisfuck's ankle.  Apparently the Kings are looking at the NHL to either force Edmonton to take guywhodoesn'tmatter back or give the Kings a better draft pick as compensation.
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« Reply #124 on: July 11, 2011, 03:37:19 AM »

Quote from: pr0ner on July 11, 2011, 02:13:42 AM

Dean Lombardi speaking on the Ryan Smyth trade:

"The bottom line for me, I would have rather invested my money with Bernie Madoff than invest in Edmonton's word".

Oh well.  I don't understand these guys that want to hash it out in the media.  What's Lombardi going to prove by slamming Edmonton over and over again in the LA Times?  Is he trying to take over for Bryan Burke?  Dude, either get over it or deal with it internally.  It's been pretty much a non-story in Edmonton, I'd love to argue from the other side but Oilers management is collectively shrugging.  Maybe he's still sore that Penner would apparently rather play in Edmonton than for the Kings?

Based on this side show he's had running for three weeks now, I'm starting to buy into the theory that moving Ryan Smyth was his idea from the start and that he made up the story that Smyth asked for a trade (which Smyth denies - he's said that he said Edmonton would be his preference only IF the Kings wanted to trade him).  Seems like a GM I kind of admired is maybe a bit of a slimeball.
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« Reply #125 on: July 11, 2011, 03:51:37 AM »

Uh... Smyth has stated in interviews that he asked specifically for the trade.  He only denied it once because he didn't want it to get out.

http://lakingsinsider.com/2011/06/26/smyth-talks-about-trade-to-oilers/
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« Reply #126 on: July 11, 2011, 03:58:20 AM »

Quote from: gellar on July 11, 2011, 03:51:37 AM

Uh... Smyth has stated in interviews that he asked specifically for the trade.  He only denied it once because he didn't want it to get out.

http://lakingsinsider.com/2011/06/26/smyth-talks-about-trade-to-oilers/

Interesting, I hadn't heard that follow up from Smyth.  Guess he requested it then.  Nice to hear a player that wanted to come back to Edm, in that case.  Ok, guess Lombardi's not a slimeball - still don't get the griefing in the papers though.
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« Reply #127 on: July 11, 2011, 12:56:17 PM »

Quote from: Rowdy on July 11, 2011, 03:58:20 AM

Quote from: gellar on July 11, 2011, 03:51:37 AM

Uh... Smyth has stated in interviews that he asked specifically for the trade.  He only denied it once because he didn't want it to get out.

http://lakingsinsider.com/2011/06/26/smyth-talks-about-trade-to-oilers/

Interesting, I hadn't heard that follow up from Smyth.  Guess he requested it then.  Nice to hear a player that wanted to come back to Edm, in that case.  Ok, guess Lombardi's not a slimeball - still don't get the griefing in the papers though.
Smyth requesting that trade is why he's in Edmonton and not Calgary right now.
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« Reply #128 on: July 11, 2011, 04:23:06 PM »

Quote from: pr0ner on July 11, 2011, 12:56:17 PM

Quote from: Rowdy on July 11, 2011, 03:58:20 AM

Quote from: gellar on July 11, 2011, 03:51:37 AM

Uh... Smyth has stated in interviews that he asked specifically for the trade.  He only denied it once because he didn't want it to get out.

http://lakingsinsider.com/2011/06/26/smyth-talks-about-trade-to-oilers/

Interesting, I hadn't heard that follow up from Smyth.  Guess he requested it then.  Nice to hear a player that wanted to come back to Edm, in that case.  Ok, guess Lombardi's not a slimeball - still don't get the griefing in the papers though.
Smyth requesting that trade is why he's in Edmonton and not Calgary right now.

Or anywhere else, really.  I mean it's pretty clear Gagne is an upgrade over Smyth, but LA didn't particularly want to trade the guy WITHOUT securing Plan B first.  Afterwords, I'm sure there would be a handful of teams who'd take the offer of 'free' versus the Oilers offer of 'damaged goods'.
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« Reply #129 on: July 13, 2011, 12:15:59 AM »

Penner on the offseason.  Apparently he's not used to the offseason regiment the Kings run and he clearly sees Kopitar as his gravy train for his next contract (who can blame him).

Question: Is that the biggest change, in terms of coming from Edmonton and the change in culture?

PENNER: “Well, like I said, these workouts are different than I had encountered before. It’s really exciting to be part of something this special with a guy like (strength and conditioning coach) Tim Adams. As far as the culture, Edmonton was really young. Here, I think it’s more middle of the pack. We have some older guys, but I think we’re all around 27, 28, right around there, as the average age. I think we’ve got the perfect mix of players to do some damage.”

http://lakingsinsider.com/2011/07/12/penner-talks-about-summer-workouts-expectations/
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« Reply #130 on: July 14, 2011, 10:26:02 PM »

More on what has is deamed Mulletgate:

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For those following the saga of the minor Ryan Smyth trade, it continues. Dean Lombardi said today that there has been no resolution in the Kings’ quest to receive some compensation from the Oilers.

Lombardi spoke more openly about the trade particulars today. He noted that Colin Fraser, the player who came back to the Kings (along with a draft pick) for Smyth still has not been declared healthy by any doctor. Lombardi said he was told, by the Oilers, that Fraser would be “ready to play” on the Wednesday after the trade, but that a Kings doctor recommended surgery and that an independent doctor said Fraser could be examined again in two weeks to evaluate any progress in his recovery. Lombardi’s contention is that the Oilers have already misled the Kings, in terms of Fraser’s recovery time, and that’s why they are seeking mediation from the league.
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« Reply #131 on: July 15, 2011, 06:31:56 PM »

Anyone see this (from Puck Daddy)?:

http://www.bizjournals.com/bizjournals/on-numbers/scott-thomas/2011/07/coyotes-are-nhls-biggest-disappointment.html
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« Reply #132 on: July 15, 2011, 07:25:54 PM »

Quote from: Devil on July 15, 2011, 06:31:56 PM


I agree with the overall logic, but how the hell can they (Phoenix) not rank ahead of the Islanders or Maple Leafs?
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« Reply #133 on: July 16, 2011, 06:25:17 PM »

Preds have new unis...and I like 'em!  I wish the Sharks would redesign their jerseys...they're so bleh compared to before the reebok change.

http://predators.nhl.com/club/gallerylanding.htm?id=23455&navid=DL|NSH|home

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« Reply #134 on: July 16, 2011, 07:09:27 PM »

Before I clicked that link I said to myself, "I sure hope they got rid of that ugly yellow color scheme." Yeah, guess not.
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« Reply #135 on: July 16, 2011, 07:33:37 PM »

The Sharks jerseys would be fine if they got rid of the horrific orange/yellow trim.  That was just a ridiculously unnecessary addition.
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« Reply #136 on: July 16, 2011, 08:15:47 PM »

Quote from: gellar on July 16, 2011, 07:33:37 PM

The Sharks jerseys would be fine if they got rid of the horrific orange/yellow trim.  That was just a ridiculously unnecessary addition.

That would be a damn good start.  I don't really like the old school nod with the horizontal bars though.  If they had something like the Kings 3rd jerseys (which I think are your new home?), I'd be all over that.
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« Reply #137 on: July 16, 2011, 08:16:01 PM »

Quote from: Koz on July 16, 2011, 07:09:27 PM

Before I clicked that link I said to myself, "I sure hope they got rid of that ugly yellow color scheme." Yeah, guess not.

BEHOLD THE GOLD
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« Reply #138 on: July 18, 2011, 04:54:38 AM »

Quote from: gellar on July 15, 2011, 07:25:54 PM

Quote from: Devil on July 15, 2011, 06:31:56 PM


I agree with the overall logic, but how the hell can they (Phoenix) not rank ahead of the Islanders or Maple Leafs?

Meh, I cry foul on the History bit. Out of those 31 years, during the 17 they were in Winnipeg they had next to no chance for a cup conteneder, or playoff performer, in the pre-cap era. Being a small market team at a time when the Candadian $ was low.  They should just focus on the 14 year era in Phoenix -  aka the Bettman ice in the desert micracle experiment.
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« Reply #139 on: July 18, 2011, 01:31:52 PM »

Quote from: gellar on July 15, 2011, 07:25:54 PM

Quote from: Devil on July 15, 2011, 06:31:56 PM


I agree with the overall logic, but how the hell can they (Phoenix) not rank ahead of the Islanders or Maple Leafs?

The Leafs had four final four appearances between 1993 and 2001. Those memories are what keeps us going during this period of absolute shitiness.
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« Reply #140 on: July 18, 2011, 03:13:09 PM »

The methodology heavily weighs the most recent 10 years though.

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« Reply #141 on: July 19, 2011, 05:02:13 PM »

Osgood retires.  Devils are announcing their new head coach today.  Fake Don Cherry has the analysis:

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« Reply #142 on: July 19, 2011, 05:04:49 PM »

Does Osgood get in the HoF?  He's got the stats, but playing for Detroit will count against him.  I've said it before, but if the Wings won Game 7 in 2009 he would've been the Conn Smythe winner and his place in the HoF a dead lock.  Maybe not first ballot, but eventually.  But they didn't so it's questionable.
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« Reply #143 on: July 19, 2011, 05:28:42 PM »

Quote from: gellar on July 19, 2011, 05:02:13 PM

Osgood retires.  Devils are announcing their new head coach today.  Fake Don Cherry has the analysis:
Huh. Didn't see that coming so quickly. Hope they get someone decent.
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« Reply #144 on: July 19, 2011, 07:00:35 PM »

Quote from: gellar on July 19, 2011, 05:02:13 PM

Osgood retires.  Devils are announcing their new head coach today.  Fake Don Cherry has the analysis:

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YKNOW I DONT KNOW WHO WILL BE THE NEW JERSEY DEVIL COACH BUT I DO KNOW HE WILL BE BORING AND THEN GET FIRED 3 DAYS BEFORE THE PLAYOFFS START

Fine with me as long as Lou takes over in a playoff spot when DeBoer gets fired.
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« Reply #145 on: July 19, 2011, 08:56:29 PM »

Quote from: ScubaV on July 19, 2011, 05:04:49 PM

Does Osgood get in the HoF?  He's got the stats, but playing for Detroit will count against him.  I've said it before, but if the Wings won Game 7 in 2009 he would've been the Conn Smythe winner and his place in the HoF a dead lock.  Maybe not first ballot, but eventually.  But they didn't so it's questionable.

No way Osgood gets in the HoF.  Far from a household name in hockey.
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« Reply #146 on: July 19, 2011, 10:22:55 PM »

Quote from: Rowdy on July 19, 2011, 08:56:29 PM

Quote from: ScubaV on July 19, 2011, 05:04:49 PM

Does Osgood get in the HoF?  He's got the stats, but playing for Detroit will count against him.  I've said it before, but if the Wings won Game 7 in 2009 he would've been the Conn Smythe winner and his place in the HoF a dead lock.  Maybe not first ballot, but eventually.  But they didn't so it's questionable.

No way Osgood gets in the HoF.  Far from a household name in hockey.
Since when is that a qualification for any Hall of Fame?
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« Reply #147 on: July 19, 2011, 11:36:24 PM »

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/hockey/nhl/07/19/lightning.sign.steven.stamkos.ap/index.html?sct=hp_t2_a8&eref=sihp

Stamkos resigns with TB
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« Reply #148 on: July 20, 2011, 01:06:10 AM »

Quote from: leo8877 on July 19, 2011, 11:36:24 PM


OMG! A deal of good length at a fair price! He better be getting $30 mil upfront or something to make it realistic.
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« Reply #149 on: July 20, 2011, 01:27:45 AM »

Quote from: Koz on July 20, 2011, 01:06:10 AM

Quote from: leo8877 on July 19, 2011, 11:36:24 PM


OMG! A deal of good length at a fair price! He better be getting $30 mil upfront or something to make it realistic.

Those are nice clams for someone who had a great 1st half of the season and then more or less dissapeared for the rest of it. Oh well, I respect Yzerman a lot, so his confidence in him definitely counts for something.
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« Reply #150 on: July 20, 2011, 06:49:39 PM »

Quote from: kronovan on July 20, 2011, 01:27:45 AM

Quote from: Koz on July 20, 2011, 01:06:10 AM

Quote from: leo8877 on July 19, 2011, 11:36:24 PM


OMG! A deal of good length at a fair price! He better be getting $30 mil upfront or something to make it realistic.

Those are nice clams for someone who had a great 1st half of the season and then more or less dissapeared for the rest of it. Oh well, I respect Yzerman a lot, so his confidence in him definitely counts for something.

Well, he also scored 51 goals the year before and is only 21 years old.  I believe he's scored more goals in the past 2 seasons than anyone else in the league.  13 pts in 18 games during the playoffs isn't too shabby either.  That deal was a no brainer and really does seem pretty reasonable all things considered.
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« Reply #151 on: July 21, 2011, 01:35:30 PM »

Dan Steinberg of the Washington Post talks about Alex Ovechkin's shape.

Apparently, he isn't very ripped during the season, either. 
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« Reply #152 on: July 22, 2011, 09:17:50 PM »

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« Reply #153 on: July 22, 2011, 09:36:45 PM »

I think those look pretty good.
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« Reply #154 on: July 22, 2011, 09:50:58 PM »

The main logo has two issues...

1. There will be a huge target on everyone's chest.
2. It looks sort of like they had someone's kid photoshop it.
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« Reply #155 on: July 22, 2011, 09:52:59 PM »

I'd be a bigger fan of it if the main logo wasn't the main logo.  As kratz said, it looks like a target.  Otherwise, well done.

Now don't put piping on the jerseys, you dicks.
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« Reply #156 on: July 22, 2011, 09:59:40 PM »

I like it. Agreed on hoping the jersey has clean lines to it.
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« Reply #157 on: July 22, 2011, 10:13:07 PM »

Yeah, the main looks like a roundel that would look good as a shoulder patch/third.



Over at the NHL site, there's an alternate wordmark with the same script, less the leaf, and outlined in blue.  And the last photo is "Special thanks to the Canadian Forces and the Department of National Defense", so I'd say the military iconography, even over and above the jet mark, is definitely what they were going for.
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« Reply #158 on: July 22, 2011, 10:40:39 PM »

IN! on some Jets gear.

Like the Patriots colors!  icon_wink
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« Reply #159 on: July 23, 2011, 03:50:30 AM »

I like it a lot. Those logos have a lot more class than basically every expansion team that has come into the league since 1991.
If putting a target like shape on themselves is good enough for the RAF then it's good enough for the Winnipeg Jets.  I may have to get a new ball cap.
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