NFL 2011 Offseason Discussion -2012 Draft Edition

[naednek]

I know it's a stupid notion (settle down Gellar) but part of me was half jokingly was hoping the niners would have traded up for Luck   I knew it would never happened, but that would have been funny, and sad at the same time.

[gellar]

The draft is a lot less interesting when your team is actually good.

This is a new and interesting development.

[leo8877]

Any draft thoughts?  I thought the niners pick was out of nowhere, and then I remembered Aldon Smith. 

[The Grue]

Any draft thoughts?  I thought the niners pick was out of nowhere, and then I remembered Aldon Smith. 

I'm just pissed that the Cowboys picked up an LSU Tiger.  I hate it when they do that because I hate the Cowboys, but love the Tigers.  Conflict!

[naednek]

Any draft thoughts?  I thought the niners pick was out of nowhere, and then I remembered Aldon Smith. 

I think niners needed a WR to groom, but not so sure about the type of WR they picked.  He's supposed to be a deep threat type of WR, but we don't have a deep passing QB.

[The Grue]

Any draft thoughts?  I thought the niners pick was out of nowhere, and then I remembered Aldon Smith. 

I think niners needed a WR to groom, but not so sure about the type of WR they picked.  He's supposed to be a deep threat type of WR, but we don't have a deep passing QB.

When will Alex Smith ever be good enough for you?!?!?   

[gellar]

No QB will ever be enough for 49er fan.

[naednek]

Any draft thoughts?  I thought the niners pick was out of nowhere, and then I remembered Aldon Smith.  

I think niners needed a WR to groom, but not so sure about the type of WR they picked.  He's supposed to be a deep threat type of WR, but we don't have a deep passing QB.

When will Alex Smith ever be good enough for you?!?!?  

When he can show that he can play consistently good games.  Last year was a good start.  Nothing great, but definitely better than the last 6 seasons.  Helps to have a coach who knows his strengths and weaknesses.

But my comment about a deep passing QB wasn't a dig at Alex or to rekindle this well played out debate, it was just based on the 49ers personnel and offensive style.    Alex doesn't have a history (in the NFL) of throwing deep and accurately deep, although he's shown glimpses of it last season.  It's not all of it is Alex's fault, we have WR's who drops balls, and many times the defenses are just too good.  

I'm just saying the strength of the WR we picked doesn't match up to the strength of our offensive style.  But who knows, that can change, and I hope so too.

One thing is for sure we are top heavy in WR and RB after today

[PeteRock]

For the first time in a while I'm relatively pleased with the decisions Philadelphia has made in the draft.  I liked trading up for Fletcher Cox in the first round, and we've been pretty effective in the 2nd round with Mychal Kendricks and Vinny Curry.  Nick Foles was somewhat of a puzzling pick, but fitting of Andy Reid, plus becoming a recent UofA alum I have to support a fellow Wildcat. 

Overall Philadelphia made selections fitting of a powerhouse team, not one that struggled at 8-8 last season.  Signs of things to come?  I hope so.

[Jumangi]

The Eagles will be successful next year if they can keep Vick from getting hammered so much again.

[Kagath]

The Eagles will be successful next year if they can keep Vick from getting hammered so much again.

Just needs to stay out of prison then and watch the soap.

Wooo, Lions. Let's see some action for building.

[pr0ner]

Hey, look, 2 QBs!   

[gellar]

Gotta hedge your bets, yo.

[pr0ner]

Gotta hedge your bets, yo.

Worked for the Cowboys in 89.  Maybe it'll work here.  But on the surface, it is weird.

[gellar]

It's a good thing the Redskins are so talented at their other positions that they could afford to use a pick on a 2nd QB.

[Eightball]

It's a good thing the Redskins are so talented at their other positions that they could afford to use a pick on a 2nd QB.

Lol.  It's a weird decision for sure, but I'm guessing they really don't want to have Beck or Grossman as a backup quarterback for 2013...

[Isgrimnur]

Buffalo goes CB, G, WR, LB, CB, OT, LB so far.  Shoring up our 19th place passing defense, I guess. 

[gellar]

It's a good thing the Redskins are so talented at their other positions that they could afford to use a pick on a 2nd QB.

Lol.  It's a weird decision for sure, but I'm guessing they really don't want to have Beck or Grossman as a backup quarterback for 2013...

JOHN BECK IS/WAS THE FUTUAR.

[pr0ner]

It's a good thing the Redskins are so talented at their other positions that they could afford to use a pick on a 2nd QB.

Lol.  It's a weird decision for sure, but I'm guessing they really don't want to have Beck or Grossman as a backup quarterback for 2013...

Beck's already been released.

[Eightball]

It's a good thing the Redskins are so talented at their other positions that they could afford to use a pick on a 2nd QB.

Lol.  It's a weird decision for sure, but I'm guessing they really don't want to have Beck or Grossman as a backup quarterback for 2013...

Beck's already been released.

I posted that before he got cut!

[ScubaV]

I don't follow college football or prospects, but I do like what Green Bay has done this year.  Take arguably one of the best offenses ever that has changed very little from last season and a terribad defense that stemmed mostly from an anemic pass rush and do what?  Draft OLB, DE, CB, DE, S, and OLB through the first five rounds.  Even better, the consensus seems to be that most of those picks were BPA or BPA equivalents that also fit need.  If Nick Perry (Rd. 1 OLB) and Jerel Worthy (Rd. 2 DE) can provide even halfway decent contributions that should have a big impact on freeing up Clay Matthews and BJ Raji to make some noise.

And here's a salute to Nick Collins, whose career is most likely cut waaaay too short.

[pr0ner]

It's a good thing the Redskins are so talented at their other positions that they could afford to use a pick on a 2nd QB.

Lol.  It's a weird decision for sure, but I'm guessing they really don't want to have Beck or Grossman as a backup quarterback for 2013...

Beck's already been released.

I posted that before he got cut!

I believe you!  Just thought I'd ease your pain and suffering a bit.   

[theohall]

I don't follow college football or prospects, but I do like what Green Bay has done this year.  Take arguably one of the best offenses ever that has changed very little from last season and a terribad defense that stemmed mostly from an anemic pass rush and do what?  Draft OLB, DE, CB, DE, S, and OLB through the first five rounds.  Even better, the consensus seems to be that most of those picks were BPA or BPA equivalents that also fit need.  If Nick Perry (Rd. 1 OLB) and Jerel Worthy (Rd. 2 DE) can provide even halfway decent contributions that should have a big impact on freeing up Clay Matthews and BJ Raji to make some noise.

And here's a salute to Nick Collins, whose career is most likely cut waaaay too short.

Who is Green Bay's new Center?

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[ScubaV]

Jeff Saturday is on a 2 year deal and behind him is Evan Dietrich-Smith AKA The Guy Who Got Stomped On By Suh, a 2009 UDFA who's probably not starter material, but likely a decent backup.  I guess we'll draft a long-term prospect next year.

[leo8877]

Niners got another WR in a FA signing of Stanford's Chris Owusu.  One of Luck's big targets, but unfortunately had some concussion issues in college. 

[leo8877]

Saints player bans incoming.

Vilma for season, others:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7881761/nfl-bans-four-players-new-orleans-saints-bounty-roles

I'm surprised to see Fujita on there. 

[leo8877]

Junior Seau found dead at his home @_@

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/report-nfl-legend-junior-seau-dead-182120394.html

EDIT:  Sounds like cops think suicide.

[PeteRock]

 

[Devil]

That's too bad. 

[Clanwolfer]

Apparently the note said he shot himself in the chest to preserve his brain for research, just like Duerkson. Heartbreaking what these guys go through, and heartbreaking to think that, even if they fixed all the issues with head injury and CTE today, there's at least a decade and a half coming of ex-players who have already paid the price having to go through just this, over and over.

[PeteRock]

Apparently the note said he shot himself in the chest to preserve his brain for research, just like Duerkson. Heartbreaking what these guys go through, and heartbreaking to think that, even if they fixed all the issues with head injury and CTE today, there's at least a decade and a half coming of ex-players who have already paid the price having to go through just this, over and over.

Exactly what I was thinking.  The long-term effects of head injuries are still plagued with a lack of understanding, but depression and cognitive struggles seem to be a recurring issue.  I just hope that current changes aren't "too little, too late."  Unfortunately so many past players will be impacted, but hopefully ongoing advancements will better protect current and future players. 

[The Grue]

Are we sure the Saints didn't shoot him?

[Gratch]

I always liked Seau as a player...seemed like he could never get straight after he was done though.  Shame.

Are we sure the Saints didn't shoot him?

I'm so going to hell for laughing at that.

[leo8877]

Wow just heard shotgun to the chest?  Yowzers.

[leo8877]

Uh oh Soulchilde, Suggs has torn achilles and is out for the season.

[Soulchilde]

Uh oh Soulchilde, Suggs has torn achilles and is out for the season.

Yeah,  Baltimore's sport talk radio is in an uproar..   Although, Suggs has reportedly talked to Aaron Wilson and stated it's a partial tear and that he'll be back by Oct/Nov.   While his production will be missed the Raven's Mantra has always been "Next Man Up!" so I'm not worried



....too much 

[leo8877]

Uh oh Soulchilde, Suggs has torn achilles and is out for the season.

Yeah,  Baltimore's sport talk radio is in an uproar..   Although, Suggs has reportedly talked to Aaron Wilson and stated it's a partial tear and that he'll be back by Oct/Nov.   While his production will be missed the Raven's Mantra has always been "Next Man Up!" so I'm not worried



....too much 

After watching Suggs single-handedly  destroy the Niners in their game last year I'd be worried!

[leo8877]

Dolphins will be on Hard Knocks this year

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7983505/miami-dolphins-star-hbo-series-hard-knocks