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« Reply #320 on: October 16, 2011, 09:05:20 PM »

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Quote from: naednek on October 13, 2011, 06:08:27 PM

 I'm hoping the lions get a little high on ego and not take the niners seriously.  

You obviously have not been following the Lions very much.  The one thing that really impresses is the grounded attitude the team projects.  They insist that they have won nothing yet and that while every win is a step forward, as Detroit fans have seen many times before it is way too easy to fall back.  The Niners may well take this game but it wont be because they Lions didnt take them seriously.  If you want to be Detroit, youre going to have to out play them.

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« Reply #321 on: October 16, 2011, 10:26:07 PM »

Can the Cowboys make any more stupid penalties? They really are their own worst enemy.
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« Reply #322 on: October 16, 2011, 10:58:43 PM »

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 I'm hoping the lions get a little high on ego and not take the niners seriously.  

You obviously have not been following the Lions very much.  The one thing that really impresses is the grounded attitude the team projects.  They insist that they have won nothing yet and that while every win is a step forward, as Detroit fans have seen many times before it is way too easy to fall back.  The Niners may well take this game but it wont be because they Lions didnt take them seriously.  If you want to be Detroit, youre going to have to out play them.

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 finger  You thought the Lions were high on ego and took the Niners lightly?  Now I know why people hate fans from San Francisco.    You beat us, congrats,  now be an ass about it ok?
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« Reply #323 on: October 16, 2011, 11:07:34 PM »

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 I'm hoping the lions get a little high on ego and not take the niners seriously.  

You obviously have not been following the Lions very much.  The one thing that really impresses is the grounded attitude the team projects.  They insist that they have won nothing yet and that while every win is a step forward, as Detroit fans have seen many times before it is way too easy to fall back.  The Niners may well take this game but it wont be because they Lions didnt take them seriously.  If you want to be Detroit, youre going to have to out play them.

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 finger  You thought the Lions were high on ego and took the Niners lightly?  Now I know why people hate fans from San Francisco.    You beat us, congrats,  now be an ass about it ok?

No, I said I hope they would have a big ego.  No wonder I hate Detroit fans, they're illiterate.  Tongue  Looks like your coach had the ego, but it was certainly a battle all game long.  Niners made too many penalties, most of them stupid, and somehow they overcame it on the road.
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« Reply #324 on: October 16, 2011, 11:24:11 PM »

And the Cowboys throw away another game they should have won. What a surprise.
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« Reply #325 on: October 17, 2011, 01:19:47 AM »

Quote from: rshetts2 on October 16, 2011, 10:58:43 PM

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  I'm hoping the lions get a little high on ego and not take the niners seriously.   

You obviously have not been following the Lions very much.  The one thing that really impresses is the grounded attitude the team projects.  They insist that they have won nothing yet and that while every win is a step forward, as Detroit fans have seen many times before it is way too easy to fall back.  The Niners may well take this game but it wont be because they Lions didnt take them seriously.  If you want to be Detroit, youre going to have to out play them.

BOOM Called it!

 finger  You thought the Lions were high on ego and took the Niners lightly?  Now I know why people hate fans from San Francisco.    You beat us, congrats,  now be an ass about it ok?

Hey now.  We're not all neadnekian.

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« Reply #326 on: October 17, 2011, 02:36:15 AM »

What a horrible Patriots game until the last 2 minutes.
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« Reply #327 on: October 17, 2011, 03:42:00 AM »

Quote from: Teggy on October 16, 2011, 11:24:11 PM

And the Cowboys throw away another game they should have won. What a surprise.
Romo for the loss again, what a surprise.
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« Reply #328 on: October 17, 2011, 03:44:59 AM »

I hate saying this, but NFC West teams have beaten the, NFC East and NFC North division leaders.  So which division is weakest in the NFC?
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« Reply #329 on: October 17, 2011, 03:45:44 AM »

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Quote from: Teggy on October 16, 2011, 11:24:11 PM

And the Cowboys throw away another game they should have won. What a surprise.
Romo for the loss again, what a surprise.

You can't put this one on Romo. He lead the Cowboys to lead taking score with under 4 minutes in the game. It's just that the defense couldn't stop Brady on the last drive.
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« Reply #330 on: October 17, 2011, 05:30:16 AM »

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I hate saying this, but NFC West teams have beaten the, NFC East and NFC North division leaders.  So which division is weakest in the NFC?

I'm pretty sure the Packers are unbeaten.  The niners did take down the south leading bucs tho...

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« Reply #331 on: October 17, 2011, 01:50:47 PM »

Quote from: Teggy on October 16, 2011, 11:24:11 PM

And the Cowboys throw away another game they should have won. What a surprise.

But at least they were the 2009 NFC East Champions!
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« Reply #332 on: October 17, 2011, 02:23:03 PM »

Quote from: rshetts2 on October 16, 2011, 10:58:43 PM

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 I'm hoping the lions get a little high on ego and not take the niners seriously.  

You obviously have not been following the Lions very much.  The one thing that really impresses is the grounded attitude the team projects.  They insist that they have won nothing yet and that while every win is a step forward, as Detroit fans have seen many times before it is way too easy to fall back.  The Niners may well take this game but it wont be because they Lions didnt take them seriously.  If you want to be Detroit, youre going to have to out play them.

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 finger  You thought the Lions were high on ego and took the Niners lightly?  Now I know why people hate fans from San Francisco.    You beat us, congrats,  now be an ass about it ok?

Rhetts, this is what I was talking about last week on the previous page.  It applies to every team.

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/49ers/2011/10/16/late-night-thoughts-on-49ers-5-1-start/
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The 49ers are on a four-game win streak, and there is nothing bad about that. But watch out for, as coach Jim Harbaugh likes to call him, Frederick P. Soft. And, no, I’m not talking about Lions coach Jim Schwartz’s hand/back/ego. (More on their postgame exchange in a bit.)

The 49ers need to be careful here. They have two weeks to fuel their confidence about a remarkable start of the Harbaugh era, complete with three comeback wins in four weeks in the Eastern time zone (body clocks: 10 a.m. kickoffs).

I starkly recall the Raiders taking a three-game win streak into their bye last season. They were so full of themselves. One Raiders veteran told me to “beat it” because he thought I only would talk to him now that they were winning. He was delusional, but that is beside the point. The Raiders lost their next two, fell out of the AFC West race and finished 8-8.

The 49ers would have to go 3-7 to finish 8-8, which still probably would be good enough to win the NFC West. Harbaugh & Co. seem to have an excellent handle on this team. His emotional state is helping fuel this turnaround, but not more than the quality coaching he and his staff are providing.

I wasn't trying to sound like Detroit has egos in a bad way.  I was saying there could be a chance of them being over confident and not take SF seriously.  It's happened before with many teams (I've seen niners do it alot in the 90's when the niners were good).  Obviously the lions challenged the niners all game long, so I don't think it happened as I hoped, but it was just the possibility I was hoping for.  Losing 1 game isn't going to kill your team.  The lions are doing alot of things right.  I wish my QB can throw more than 150 yards.
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« Reply #333 on: October 17, 2011, 03:15:40 PM »

If it wasnt Romo, why did the Cowboys only manage 16 points against the worst scoring and pass defense in the league?
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« Reply #334 on: October 17, 2011, 03:50:18 PM »

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Quote from: Teggy on October 16, 2011, 11:24:11 PM

And the Cowboys throw away another game they should have won. What a surprise.

But at least they were the 2009 NFC East Champions!

At least they've been in the playoffs in the past decade! OH SNAP
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« Reply #335 on: October 17, 2011, 06:23:19 PM »

That Lions coach looks like a crazy SOB.  Harbaugh should have given him the "what's your deal".

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« Reply #336 on: October 17, 2011, 07:41:13 PM »

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If it wasnt Romo, why did the Cowboys only manage 16 points against the worst scoring and pass defense in the league?

Play calling? They kept try to run the ball (unsuccessfully). When they had a chance to score a TD when close to the goal line late in the game, they only did short passes (like a shuffle pass) which more or less runs. When they had the ball late with a chance to run the clock out, they ran three times, got stopped, and had to punt. And their defense lets the Pats go 80 yards for a TD in two minutes. This one doesn't fall on Romo.
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« Reply #337 on: October 17, 2011, 09:34:50 PM »

Anthony Davis - Twitter gangsta!  NSFW

http://www.prideofdetroit.com/2011/10/16/2494452/anthony-davis-twitter-49ers-lions
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« Reply #338 on: October 17, 2011, 09:36:58 PM »

Denver just traded away their best receiver. Just in time for Tebow to start his first game.
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« Reply #339 on: October 17, 2011, 10:03:18 PM »

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ugh... another reason why I hate twitter.  And Anthony Davis needs to shut up.  The dude needs to focus on not being called for false starts and holding.
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« Reply #340 on: October 17, 2011, 10:31:19 PM »

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If it wasnt Romo, why did the Cowboys only manage 16 points against the worst scoring and pass defense in the league?

Play calling? They kept try to run the ball (unsuccessfully). When they had a chance to score a TD when close to the goal line late in the game, they only did short passes (like a shuffle pass) which more or less runs. When they had the ball late with a chance to run the clock out, they ran three times, got stopped, and had to punt. And their defense lets the Pats go 80 yards for a TD in two minutes. This one doesn't fall on Romo.

Well, one of the reasons they called those plays was because of how many times Romo has shit the bed in pressure situations. The coaches are understandably a bit gun shy when it comes to putting the ball in his hands at crunch time.
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« Reply #341 on: October 18, 2011, 12:09:11 PM »

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Quote from: Ralph-Wiggum on October 17, 2011, 07:41:13 PM

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If it wasnt Romo, why did the Cowboys only manage 16 points against the worst scoring and pass defense in the league?

Play calling? They kept try to run the ball (unsuccessfully). When they had a chance to score a TD when close to the goal line late in the game, they only did short passes (like a shuffle pass) which more or less runs. When they had the ball late with a chance to run the clock out, they ran three times, got stopped, and had to punt. And their defense lets the Pats go 80 yards for a TD in two minutes. This one doesn't fall on Romo.

Well, one of the reasons they called those plays was because of how many times Romo has shit the bed in pressure situations. The coaches are understandably a bit gun shy when it comes to putting the ball in his hands at crunch time.

That may be the case, but you still can't blame Romo for this loss. That's like saying you blame the guy on the bench for the loss because he wasn't good enough to be in the game. When Romo was asked to do stuff, he played pretty well (300+ yards, 1 TD, 1 INT).
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« Reply #342 on: October 18, 2011, 03:04:14 PM »

Carson Palmer to the Raiders. 
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« Reply #343 on: October 18, 2011, 03:23:53 PM »

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Carson Palmer to the Raiders. 

Looks like Cincy gets a 2012 first rounder and conditional 2013 first rounder.  Raiders are now without a pick in the first 4 rounds of next years draft.  I hope Palmer works out in Oaktown.  I liked him in Cincy until this retirement fiasco.  Hard to blame him though with how shitty the Bengals have been.  Looks like Jason Campbell is done now in Oakland...even after he heals.  Palmer's contract runs through 2014.
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« Reply #344 on: October 18, 2011, 04:28:45 PM »

The Raiders must have missed the memo that Carson Palmer sucks now.
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« Reply #345 on: October 18, 2011, 04:45:52 PM »

Wow,  thats a lot to pay for a 31 year old disgruntled QB.  The condition on the 2013 draft pick is, if Oakland wins a playoff game this year, Cinci gets the 1st rounder, if they dont, then Cinci get the 2nd round pick in 2013.
Worst case scenario is Cinci gets a 1st round pick in 2012 and a 2nd round in 2013.  Sounds like a steal, for dumping a QB that they had completely lost anyways.  Time will tell if its a good trade for Oakland but at the very least Cinci has to be ecstatic with the deal.
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« Reply #346 on: October 18, 2011, 05:02:13 PM »

Faux John Madden
The Carson Palmer trade will be official when he passes a physical that consists of throwing passes to guys dressed as Troy Polamalu.
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« Reply #347 on: October 20, 2011, 05:09:51 PM »

Week 7 is upon us.  Raiders gets a new face but with same results, I guess Al Davis is still alive.  Niners are giving the NFL a break (I kid)



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« Reply #348 on: October 20, 2011, 05:17:31 PM »

For the first time in a long time, I am actually disappointed that the Niners bye week is upon us.
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« Reply #349 on: October 23, 2011, 03:50:41 AM »

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Quote from: theohall on October 17, 2011, 03:15:40 PM

If it wasnt Romo, why did the Cowboys only manage 16 points against the worst scoring and pass defense in the league?

Play calling? They kept try to run the ball (unsuccessfully). When they had a chance to score a TD when close to the goal line late in the game, they only did short passes (like a shuffle pass) which more or less runs. When they had the ball late with a chance to run the clock out, they ran three times, got stopped, and had to punt. And their defense lets the Pats go 80 yards for a TD in two minutes. This one doesn't fall on Romo.

One has to ask WHY weren't they throwing the ball?  Trying to lose??  Manning, Brady, Brees, and Rodgers - if you don't try to score knowing you are giving them the ball back with anywhere near 2 minutes to go - expect to lose in any one score game.

I'd say it falls on Romo because his coach doesn't trust him to throw late in a football game any more.

If you are playing against one of the highest scoring offenses in the league and your QB isn't throwing the ball late in a one score game against one of the worst pass defenses in the league, either the coach doesn't trust his QB or he is a complete idiot.  I'm not buying the idiot part of that.
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« Reply #350 on: October 23, 2011, 09:54:33 PM »

If I'd known Kyle Boller was starting for the Raiders, I would not have picked them today.   icon_cry
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« Reply #351 on: October 24, 2011, 12:29:36 AM »

Quote from: theohall on October 23, 2011, 09:54:33 PM

If I'd known Kyle Boller was starting for the Raiders, I would not have picked them today.   icon_cry

I don't think it would have mattered if Boller or Palmer started Tongue
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« Reply #352 on: October 28, 2011, 05:05:04 PM »

Week 8
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« Reply #353 on: October 28, 2011, 05:18:51 PM »

SO NERVOUS.  DO NOT LOSE TO THE BROWNS.
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« Reply #354 on: October 28, 2011, 06:02:14 PM »

rhetts, remember when I was talking about I hope the lions have an ego and don't take the niners seriously?

Well, it's the niner's turn.  Coming off that win and having a week off has probably filled their heads with overconfidence, and after seeing the browns play last week I'm sure they are thinking easy win. 
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« Reply #355 on: October 28, 2011, 06:21:13 PM »

Texans have a nasty habit of losing to rookie quarterbacks. Let's hope they can buck the trend...
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« Reply #356 on: October 28, 2011, 08:12:03 PM »

Here's to hoping the Saints don't get cocky after trouncing Indy and lose to a shitty St. Louis team.
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« Reply #357 on: October 28, 2011, 09:39:19 PM »

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SO NERVOUS.  DO NOT LOSE TO THE BROWNS.

I hope this happens just to see your reaction.
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« Reply #358 on: October 28, 2011, 10:07:31 PM »

Quote from: pr0ner on October 28, 2011, 09:39:19 PM

Quote from: gellar on October 28, 2011, 05:18:51 PM

SO NERVOUS.  DO NOT LOSE TO THE BROWNS.

I hope this happens just to see your reaction.

I don't think my reaction would be that interesting.  I'm so used to the Niners being laughably terrible that my reaction to them winning is more amusing.

As it stands, I'm more interested in how this Sunday will play out from an alcohol consumption perspective.  Will I preemptively spare myself the potential pain by drinking incredible amounts before the game?  Entirely possible.

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« Reply #359 on: October 28, 2011, 11:51:48 PM »

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I don't think my reaction would be that interesting.  I'm so used to the Niners being laughably terrible that my reaction to them winning is more amusing.


This is how it felt after the Saints won their Super Bowl. I still to this day hardly believe it happened. Sure we went to the playoffs a few year, but we didn't even win our first playoff game until 2000 or 2001 (I forget which year specifically). When they would do well, I considered it a bonus and if they did bad, it was par for the course. The bad part now, though, is I expect them to win. I think I was better off before.
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