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I hate Firefox. I find it to be slow, buggy, prone to crashing and takes bloody forever to start up. However, it remains my browser of choice because of the astounding array of useful extensions. My latest discovery is AutoPager.You know all those websites that force you to click through to pages two, three and beyond, loading all those adverts and things again, just to read a single story? AutoPager banishes all that nonsense! Just underneath the normal "page 2," "page 3" links you get a pagebreak inserted by AutoPager along with some arrows to navigate between the generated pages. I've tested it with great success on Eurogamer and The Register, it works like a charm (it even offered to do the same on GamingTrend but I declined). It works on sites that have been profiled by AutoPager users. If you encounter an incompatible site you can profile it yourself using a built-in application and send the result to the AutoPager server so that all users benefit. This just became one of my "can't do without" extensions. 
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« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2009, 03:16:59 PM » |
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probably would be better to have added this to the App Thread
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« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2009, 06:29:40 PM » |
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I hate Firefox. I find it to be slow, buggy, prone to crashing and takes bloody forever to start up.
Huh? What Firefox are you running? Mine opens up very quickly, requires an act of gord to crash, and is really fast to render pages.
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« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2009, 07:18:02 PM » |
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I'm using 3.5 right now and found out takes about a minute to start up the first time I use it after booting up my PC and even then it still takes about 30 seconds before it's responsive. I think I may downgrade back to 3.0.
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« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2009, 07:26:10 PM » |
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I'm using 3.5 right now and found out takes about a minute to start up the first time I use it after booting up my PC and even then it still takes about 30 seconds before it's responsive. I think I may downgrade back to 3.0.
That could have something to do with your Add-ons. If you're running Adblock + with a bunch of filters that will delay your startup time.
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« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2009, 07:31:16 PM » |
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I'm using 3.5 right now and found out takes about a minute to start up the first time I use it after booting up my PC and even then it still takes about 30 seconds before it's responsive. I think I may downgrade back to 3.0.
That could have something to do with your Add-ons. If you're running Adblock + with a bunch of filters that will delay your startup time. 3.0 didn't have that kind of delay, even with Adblock. I think I am going to disable all the plug ins and see if one of them may be causing the problem, but it's only after I boot up my PC (but no matter how long I wait before starting it) so troubleshooting is a pain.
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« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2009, 07:54:31 PM » |
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Huh? What Firefox are you running? Mine opens up very quickly, requires an act of gord to crash, and is really fast to render pages.
What version are you using?  That sounds nothing like the Firefox I know. I'm using 3.0.11 on Ubuntu but it's been like this for years now. And CeeKay's just depressed me because I was hoping that 3.5 would bring some kind of speed boost with it. Destructor, do you ever shut down your PC? Once Firefox has been cached, opening it isn't nearly so painful, but it's still slow as shit to render pages. Compared to something like Opera, anyway.
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« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2009, 08:02:39 PM » |
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Firefox is kind of slow loading on my work computer but that is when it first boots up. It is fast on every other computer I've used it on. From OSX to Ubuntu to XP to Vista to Windows 7. ANd it never really crashes on me. Once in awhile when I try to load some pretty funky webpages or other issues or going on. But that is incredibly rare.
So what Firefox are you using?
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« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2009, 09:24:45 PM » |
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It has to be a conflict or add-on issue. I run firefox on XP, Ubuntu, Vista, Win7 and OS X 10.4 and it doesn't take longer than 5-10 seconds to start and display my home page on the initial start. Typically it takes less than that after it's been opened and closed again (until the next reboot  ) And I typically run adblocker, scriptblocker and the weather plugin (not weatherbug) plus the noia theme.
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« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2009, 10:13:35 PM » |
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I'm surprised at the number of you reporting no problems at all; Firefox is notorious for these issues, although apparently it's worse if you're running it on Linux.  I think I'll follow CeeKay's lead and start testing the plugins.
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« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2009, 10:47:36 PM » |
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Firefox is a little slow to start up the first time for me as well. It crashes occasionally but not any more often than any other browser I don't think. I love how when you do crash, it will restore all the pages that you were viewing previously. IE probably does that now as well, but it didn't used to-had to copy Firefox like every other feature it now has 
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« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2009, 10:57:30 PM » |
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Ok so I'm going through the forums and I've got Autopager installed but I'm not really seeing what it's doing. Can you explain a little more? Also, everytime I go to a new site I get a pop up which says so and so has a setting for this site-do you want to use it? Should I be clicking yes? Is there any way to make it so it just automatically accepts the setting instead of popping up every time i visit a new site?
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« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2009, 11:00:24 PM » |
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I'm not sure about always accepting, but you do only have to click yes once for each site so it'll get less noticeable pretty quickly. If you want a good example, go to this Eurogamer game review and click yes when the popup appears. Then, halfway through the review, you will see the AutoPager page break followed by page 2 of the review, all on the same page.
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« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2009, 01:30:01 AM » |
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How does this plugin enhance my porn browsing experience?
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« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2009, 02:24:30 AM » |
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yeah i am gonna go with the flow,Firefox 3.5 is slow when first opening page,then its fine....i haven't had a crash either since getting the 3.5(it would happen quite a lot with the 3.0 or whatever the last one was),and the opening of other pages etc is decently fast
i am using Vista if that matters
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« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2009, 03:15:23 AM » |
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I'm running Firefox 3.5 on a Vista 64 PC, 4GB of RAM. I run a small list of addons: Adblock Plus (using a self-generated list of sites to block), Download Statusbar, DownloadHelper, DownThemAll, FireFTP, FireGestures, Flashblock, Greasemonkey, NoScript (self-generated list again), and Tiny Menu.
I might see a little slowdown the very first time (after a cold boot - I hibernate the laptop all the time, so it doesn't happen often) I run it, but it's absolutely nowhere near the times other people are stating. Seconds, tops, if even.
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« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2009, 03:23:27 PM » |
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To get back to the OP, I installed Auto Pager, not quite understand what it was supposed to do.
It's great, now that I've "got it" - nice find.
As for Firefox 3.5, there are too many extensions I use that aren't supported by 3.5 yet, so I'm still on 3.0.11
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« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2009, 11:37:30 PM » |
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I just tried Autopager and after I as well "got it" I found it to be easy to add a new site to their database. I used it on Bookmooch's member history page. It has always been a pain to try to find a book since I have to click through multiple pages; now they all load up as one big page. Cool 
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« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2009, 11:47:21 PM » |
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I'm surprised at the number of you reporting no problems at all; Firefox is notorious for these issues, although apparently it's worse if you're running it on Linux.  I think I'll follow CeeKay's lead and start testing the plugins. I deleted 2 plugins, one related to gametap and another having to do with BBCode (not sure how that got there) and everything seems to be fine now.
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« Reply #19 on: July 17, 2009, 07:49:03 AM » |
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Cheers CK. I've looked through my list of addons and there really isn't anything there I'd rather do without, so I suppose I'm stuck with it. There is 'Ubuntu Firefox Modifications', christ knows what that does. I probably need it though. Maybe when I get 3.5 in October things will get better. 
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« Reply #20 on: July 17, 2009, 01:54:54 PM » |
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For those of you that have had problems with 'slow startup time' in Firefox 3.5, go upgrade to 3.5.1 as it fixes the issue.: Summary: very slow startup for Firefox 3.5 due to accessing IE Internet Temporary File... And that's why I didn't have the problem - I NEVER run IE. Period.
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« Reply #21 on: July 18, 2009, 02:56:46 AM » |
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For those of you that have had problems with 'slow startup time' in Firefox 3.5, go upgrade to 3.5.1 as it fixes the issue.: Summary: very slow startup for Firefox 3.5 due to accessing IE Internet Temporary File... And that's why I didn't have the problem - I NEVER run IE. Period. Ahhh, that makes sense. I run IE rarely, and delete all of its temp files every time I run Crapcleaner. I've never had any problems with Firefox's speed.
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« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2009, 06:54:30 AM » |
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Well, that doesn't bloody explain the slowdown issue on my Linux desktop! 
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« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2009, 04:17:03 PM » |
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I found out what my problem was: Bug 54684. It makes the cpu usage go to 100% and stay there for quite some time making the whole pc unusable. In my case for about 10 seconds. The solutions is very simple: System>administration>softwaresources>internet updates. SELECT ALL. If you do not have these selected yopu won't be able to get the patches necessary to solve this problem. These are:
libgnomevfs2-0 libgnomevfs2-common libgnomevfs2-extra libgnomevfs2-bin
Hope it helps!
Let's start and see if I can narrow down what your issues are. you may try this. type in FF url bar: Code:
about:config
find this key: Code:
network.dns.disableIPv6
turn it to true, then find this key: Code:
network.http.pipelining
turn it to true.
And try that. See if it helps.
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« Reply #24 on: July 18, 2009, 04:28:14 PM » |
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Hmmm, I've disabled IPv6 on the system itself, I wonder if Firefox's own setting makes a difference? No idea what the pipelining thing is all about but may as well try! Cheers Sky, next time I reboot I'll see what happens.
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