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« Reply #120 on: August 12, 2008, 08:06:32 PM »

Quote from: PeteRock on August 12, 2008, 07:59:16 PM

I'd like to add Tim Burton's The Nightmare Before Christmas to the list as well.  Over the years I have noticed how much of a cult following this film has developed, and yet for some reason I had never taken the time to watch it until this past Christmas.

Finally my wife and I caught it on television and were both excited to finally get to see what all of the hype has been about.

While the animation was rather cool, the story itself was awful.  We struggled through that abomination and at the close we both looked at each other and in unison said, "W. T. F?"  I can't even elaborate beyond "that was effing terrible."  While A Christmas Story, National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation, and Die Hard will all remain annual Christmas favorites, I don't ever want to see The Nightmare Before Christmas ever again. 

in the movie's defense, no one actually had real hair in the film.  i understand that the rock family judges films based solely on the volume and luster of the main character's coif.  I remember the scathing review you gave the last Indiana Jones movie when the rumor leaked out that Harrison Ford was using an oil based gel instead of the preferred water based kind that most beauticians agree is better for the life of one's hair.

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« Reply #121 on: August 12, 2008, 08:20:43 PM »

Quote from: PeteRock on August 12, 2008, 07:59:16 PM

I'd like to add Tim Burton's The Nightmare Before Christmas to the list as well.  Over the years I have noticed how much of a cult following this film has developed, and yet for some reason I had never taken the time to watch it until this past Christmas.

Finally my wife and I caught it on television and were both excited to finally get to see what all of the hype has been about.

While the animation was rather cool, the story itself was awful.  We struggled through that abomination and at the close we both looked at each other and in unison said, "W. T. F?"  I can't even elaborate beyond "that was effing terrible."  While A Christmas Story, National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation, and Die Hard will all remain annual Christmas favorites, I don't ever want to see The Nightmare Before Christmas ever again. 

Sorry, nothing that features Danny Elfman vocals can ever be considered "terrible".
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« Reply #122 on: August 12, 2008, 08:35:45 PM »

I've fallen asleep to Nightmare Before Christmas twice, the first time in the theater, the second at a New Year's Eve party.
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« Reply #123 on: August 12, 2008, 09:56:36 PM »

Quote from: Gratch on August 12, 2008, 08:20:43 PM

Quote from: PeteRock on August 12, 2008, 07:59:16 PM

I'd like to add Tim Burton's The Nightmare Before Christmas to the list as well.  Over the years I have noticed how much of a cult following this film has developed, and yet for some reason I had never taken the time to watch it until this past Christmas.

Finally my wife and I caught it on television and were both excited to finally get to see what all of the hype has been about.

While the animation was rather cool, the story itself was awful.  We struggled through that abomination and at the close we both looked at each other and in unison said, "W. T. F?"  I can't even elaborate beyond "that was effing terrible."  While A Christmas Story, National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation, and Die Hard will all remain annual Christmas favorites, I don't ever want to see The Nightmare Before Christmas ever again. 

Sorry, nothing that features Danny Elfman vocals can ever be considered "terrible".

Well, then it seems that Nightmare breaks the "Law of Elfman."  While the music may have been good, the storyline itself was atrocious.  Not even Elfman's vocals could save it.
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« Reply #124 on: August 12, 2008, 10:55:44 PM »

The matrix 2 and 3. Horrible car commercials.

Napoleon Dynamite. Just bland.

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« Reply #125 on: August 13, 2008, 12:02:38 AM »

Quote from: scubabbl on August 12, 2008, 10:55:44 PM

Napoleon Dynamite. Just bland.

+1.

I was going to soldier on and watch the whole thing, but then the disc started acting funny.  Since I had to eject it anyway, it was less effort to just send it back.
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« Reply #126 on: August 13, 2008, 01:06:53 AM »

Quote from: Isgrimnur on August 13, 2008, 12:02:38 AM

Quote from: scubabbl on August 12, 2008, 10:55:44 PM

Napoleon Dynamite. Just bland.

+1.

I was going to soldier on and watch the whole thing, but then the disc started acting funny.  Since I had to eject it anyway, it was less effort to just send it back.

+2.  I wanted someone to run onto the screen and beat the lead character to death after 15 minutes.
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« Reply #127 on: August 13, 2008, 11:51:28 AM »

Quote from: scubabbl on August 12, 2008, 10:55:44 PM


Spoiler for Hiden:
Screw you loom of fate. A loom that spins modern ascii binary code into cloth which turns out to be people's names who fate wants killed. A loom? Seriously, that's the best they could come up with? A loom? God damn that's stupid.

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While I'm not going to say wanted was a great movie, the loom is a thing on the the woven tapestry/web of fate thing.  Not particularly clever but there for a reason just the same.
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« Reply #128 on: August 13, 2008, 12:43:53 PM »

Quote from: scubabbl on August 12, 2008, 10:55:44 PM

The matrix 2 and 3.
I don't know of a single person who likes Matrix 2 and 3.
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« Reply #129 on: August 13, 2008, 12:47:53 PM »

Hmm, about the only ones I can think of are Fletch and The Big Lebowski. Oh and V for Vendetta.

I should probably take the Big Lebowski off there as I don't really hate it, I just found it incredibly boring and overrated. I should probably give it a second watch. Same with V - didn't *hate* it, but definitely didn't like it.
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« Reply #130 on: August 13, 2008, 07:08:59 PM »

Quote from: rickfc on August 12, 2008, 08:04:15 PM

Funny, up until Batman Begins, I thought Michael Keaton was the best Batman.

It's almost impossible to fairly compare the Batmans prior to Christian Bale.  Even though I hated Burton's Batman, they weren't the total abominations that Joel Schumacher rode heard over.  The reason Keaton never did it for me is that he never appeared remotely dangerous outside of the suit.  Kilmer was probably the best actor prior to Bale to have the part, but there wasn't much he could do to rise above the script he was given.
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« Reply #131 on: August 13, 2008, 08:32:04 PM »

Quote from: cheeba on August 13, 2008, 12:43:53 PM

Quote from: scubabbl on August 12, 2008, 10:55:44 PM

The matrix 2 and 3.
I don't know of a single person who likes Matrix 2 and 3.

I liked them enough to own them on DVD and watch them occassionally.
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« Reply #132 on: August 14, 2008, 02:16:47 AM »

Quote from: Isgrimnur on August 12, 2008, 08:35:45 PM

I've fallen asleep to Nightmare Before Christmas twice, the first time in the theater, the second at a New Year's Eve party.

I thought I was the only one who didn’t like this movie!  I saw it the first time in theaters and thought it was dreadful.  After years of hearing its praise I thought I would give it another chance and about a year ago I did.  Fell asleep about 20 minutes into it and woke up in time to watch a singing dancing EVIL sock puppet.  I just don’t get the love for this one. 
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« Reply #133 on: August 14, 2008, 02:56:35 AM »

Quote from: CeeKay on August 13, 2008, 08:32:04 PM

Quote from: cheeba on August 13, 2008, 12:43:53 PM

Quote from: scubabbl on August 12, 2008, 10:55:44 PM

The matrix 2 and 3.
I don't know of a single person who likes Matrix 2 and 3.

I liked them enough to own them on DVD and watch them occassionally.
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« Reply #134 on: August 14, 2008, 04:18:56 AM »

Everyone just kill me now but

Pulp Fiction

Hated it!

and one I love but everyone else hates:

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« Reply #135 on: August 14, 2008, 05:06:37 AM »

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Quote from: Isgrimnur on August 12, 2008, 08:35:45 PM

I've fallen asleep to Nightmare Before Christmas twice, the first time in the theater, the second at a New Year's Eve party.

I thought I was the only one who didnít like this movie!  I saw it the first time in theaters and thought it was dreadful.  After years of hearing its praise I thought I would give it another chance and about a year ago I did.  Fell asleep about 20 minutes into it and woke up in time to watch a singing dancing EVIL sock puppet.  I just donít get the love for this one. 

It was one of the last non-CG animation movies. In its day it was state of the art, but it did not age well. I used to be a big fan. After seeing it fairly recently...not so much.
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« Reply #136 on: August 14, 2008, 02:23:31 PM »

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« Reply #137 on: August 14, 2008, 02:27:53 PM »

Quote from: Ironrod on August 14, 2008, 05:06:37 AM

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Quote from: Isgrimnur on August 12, 2008, 08:35:45 PM

I've fallen asleep to Nightmare Before Christmas twice, the first time in the theater, the second at a New Year's Eve party.

I thought I was the only one who didnít like this movie!  I saw it the first time in theaters and thought it was dreadful.  After years of hearing its praise I thought I would give it another chance and about a year ago I did.  Fell asleep about 20 minutes into it and woke up in time to watch a singing dancing EVIL sock puppet.  I just donít get the love for this one. 

It was one of the last non-CG animation movies. In its day it was state of the art, but it did not age well. I used to be a big fan. After seeing it fairly recently...not so much.

I don't get that.  How does stop-motion animation not age well?
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« Reply #138 on: August 14, 2008, 02:35:19 PM »

Quote from: Gratch on August 14, 2008, 02:27:53 PM

Quote from: Ironrod on August 14, 2008, 05:06:37 AM

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Quote from: Isgrimnur on August 12, 2008, 08:35:45 PM

I've fallen asleep to Nightmare Before Christmas twice, the first time in the theater, the second at a New Year's Eve party.

I thought I was the only one who didnít like this movie!  I saw it the first time in theaters and thought it was dreadful.  After years of hearing its praise I thought I would give it another chance and about a year ago I did.  Fell asleep about 20 minutes into it and woke up in time to watch a singing dancing EVIL sock puppet.  I just donít get the love for this one. 

It was one of the last non-CG animation movies. In its day it was state of the art, but it did not age well. I used to be a big fan. After seeing it fairly recently...not so much.

I don't get that.  How does stop-motion animation not age well?

it's probably just him that hasn't aged well.
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« Reply #139 on: August 14, 2008, 02:46:32 PM »

Quote from: Gratch on August 14, 2008, 02:27:53 PM

Quote from: Ironrod on August 14, 2008, 05:06:37 AM

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Quote from: Isgrimnur on August 12, 2008, 08:35:45 PM

I've fallen asleep to Nightmare Before Christmas twice, the first time in the theater, the second at a New Year's Eve party.

I thought I was the only one who didnít like this movie!  I saw it the first time in theaters and thought it was dreadful.  After years of hearing its praise I thought I would give it another chance and about a year ago I did.  Fell asleep about 20 minutes into it and woke up in time to watch a singing dancing EVIL sock puppet.  I just donít get the love for this one. 

It was one of the last non-CG animation movies. In its day it was state of the art, but it did not age well. I used to be a big fan. After seeing it fairly recently...not so much.

I don't get that.  How does stop-motion animation not age well?

My gripe isn't with the animation.  I actually felt that the animation was inspired and has in fact stood the test of time.  My gripe is with the twisted, odd storyline.  It was awful.  It was actually bad enough to negate the musical score and creative animation.
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« Reply #140 on: August 14, 2008, 02:49:51 PM »

<raises hand> i...uh...i love nightmare before christmas 
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« Reply #141 on: August 14, 2008, 04:39:32 PM »

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<raises hand> i...uh...i love nightmare before christmas 

Sounds like you're in the wrong thread.
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« Reply #142 on: August 14, 2008, 04:47:34 PM »

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Quote from: hepcat on August 14, 2008, 02:49:51 PM

<raises hand> i...uh...i love nightmare before christmas 

Sounds like you're in the wrong thread.

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« Reply #143 on: August 14, 2008, 04:50:28 PM »

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Quote from: Moliere on August 14, 2008, 04:39:32 PM

Quote from: hepcat on August 14, 2008, 02:49:51 PM

<raises hand> i...uh...i love nightmare before christmas 

Sounds like you're in the wrong thread.

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Dude, leisure suits are NOT coming back. Move on.  (and '89? really? you should have stopped a decade earlier)

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« Reply #144 on: August 14, 2008, 07:20:35 PM »

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I've fallen asleep to Nightmare Before Christmas twice, the first time in the theater, the second at a New Year's Eve party.

I thought I was the only one who didnít like this movie!  I saw it the first time in theaters and thought it was dreadful.  After years of hearing its praise I thought I would give it another chance and about a year ago I did.  Fell asleep about 20 minutes into it and woke up in time to watch a singing dancing EVIL sock puppet.  I just donít get the love for this one. 

It was one of the last non-CG animation movies. In its day it was state of the art, but it did not age well. I used to be a big fan. After seeing it fairly recently...not so much.

I don't get that.  How does stop-motion animation not age well?

The jerky animation interferes with my suspension of disbelief by constantly drawing attention to the technique. Oddly, I don't have that same problem with old Harryhausen films, so I can't really explain why Nightmare was such a letdown the last time I saw it. Same complaint applies to Beetlejuice -- the fx were fine for its time, but they look pretty embarrassing now.
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« Reply #145 on: August 14, 2008, 07:26:33 PM »

Quote from: Ironrod on August 14, 2008, 07:20:35 PM

The jerky animation interferes with my suspension of disbelief by constantly drawing attention to the technique. Oddly, I don't have that same problem with old Harryhausen films, so I can't really explain why Nightmare was such a letdown the last time I saw it. Same complaint applies to Beetlejuice -- the fx were fine for its time, but they look pretty embarrassing now.

I didn't care of Nightmare (nor just almost any Burton film.  I'm surprised at how many I've seen and more surprised at how many I've paid for.  And I totally can't hang with Danny Elfman neither either) but I had assumed that "jerky" was intentional to make the film into something of a Rudolf or Frosty sort of Christmas special.

OTOH Beetlejuice was one of the few Burton movies I enjoyed (and while it didn't stand up well to time I don't think it was FX that made it so.  The comedy and story itself just wasn't timeless)
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« Reply #146 on: August 15, 2008, 12:48:23 AM »

Quote from: PeteRock on August 14, 2008, 02:46:32 PM

My gripe is with the twisted, odd storyline.  It was awful.
This is just a weird gripe to me. You like a movie where the storyline is that a big ass magical cube in space comes to earth and big ass living good and evil robots who can change into an alternate, inferior mechanical shape come to earth to fight for it, but you hate a movie where a guy who is designated as the leader of Halloween Town wants to be something more and experience Christmas?
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« Reply #147 on: August 15, 2008, 01:17:17 AM »

Quote from: cheeba on August 15, 2008, 12:48:23 AM

Quote from: PeteRock on August 14, 2008, 02:46:32 PM

My gripe is with the twisted, odd storyline.  It was awful.
This is just a weird gripe to me. You like a movie where the storyline is that a big ass magical cube in space comes to earth and big ass living good and evil robots who can change into an alternate, inferior mechanical shape come to earth to fight for it, but you hate a movie where a guy who is designated as the leader of Halloween Town wants to be something more and experience Christmas?

You oversimplify.  The weird sock monster, the abusive scientist with his frankenstien geisha, etc.  It was too twisted and "off" for me to gain any enjoyment out of it.
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« Reply #148 on: August 15, 2008, 01:21:53 AM »

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Quote from: cheeba on August 15, 2008, 12:48:23 AM

Quote from: PeteRock on August 14, 2008, 02:46:32 PM

My gripe is with the twisted, odd storyline.  It was awful.
This is just a weird gripe to me. You like a movie where the storyline is that a big ass magical cube in space comes to earth and big ass living good and evil robots who can change into an alternate, inferior mechanical shape come to earth to fight for it, but you hate a movie where a guy who is designated as the leader of Halloween Town wants to be something more and experience Christmas?

You oversimplify.  The weird sock monster, the abusive scientist with his frankenstien geisha, etc.  It was too twisted and "off" for me to gain any enjoyment out of it.

that was kind of the point.  they lived in HALLOWEEN Town, not Mayberry.   icon_lol

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« Reply #149 on: August 15, 2008, 02:01:06 AM »

Imagine having to get your SO through the tough parts of Halloweentown in Kingdom Hearts... and fighting the stupid sock Monster when he's the size of a grain elevator.
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« Reply #150 on: August 15, 2008, 03:32:59 AM »

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If the "message" of your movie is nothing more than war is gritty and disgusting, well then you're making a pretty shallow movie. I understood that point before I stepped into the theater and I don't want to spend two hours in the theater watching it. What you are basically saying is that the point of a movie like SPR is to show violence, the grittier the better. That may be fine for some people, but it bores me silly.

That isn't the message of the movie. But a story is told by more than just conversation. Action is its own language, and in Saving Private Ryan much of the story is told via that action. My point is you cannot take away a core aspect of any move and expect it to stand on the remaining pieces. The Princess Bride is a hell of a movie, but if you randomly remove one of the main characters, it doesn't stand up so well. This is no different.
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« Reply #151 on: August 15, 2008, 04:54:27 AM »

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Remake. I have not had a chance to see the original
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« Reply #152 on: August 15, 2008, 05:10:34 AM »

Titanic pretty much rules this list for me. Hated it opening night, years before it was cool to hate on it. The Insider absolutely should have won best picture over that turd.
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« Reply #153 on: August 15, 2008, 05:43:55 AM »

Doesn't pretty much every heterosexual male hate Titanic though?
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« Reply #154 on: August 15, 2008, 05:49:50 AM »

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Doesn't pretty much every heterosexual male hate Titanic though?

It had its moments.

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« Reply #155 on: August 15, 2008, 05:55:04 AM »

Quote from: Moliere on August 15, 2008, 05:49:50 AM

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Doesn't pretty much every heterosexual male hate Titanic though?

It had its moments.



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« Reply #156 on: August 15, 2008, 09:57:03 AM »

Quote from: CeeKay on August 15, 2008, 05:55:04 AM

Plus Leonardo DIES!!!!

WTF CeeKay? Spoiler Tags Please!!!!
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« Reply #157 on: August 15, 2008, 01:21:22 PM »

Quote from: whiteboyskim on August 15, 2008, 05:10:34 AM

The Insider absolutely should have won best picture over that turd.

Wow, that would have been quite a feat since The Insider was released two years later icon_wink  Are you thinking of LA Confidential? 
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« Reply #158 on: August 15, 2008, 02:01:42 PM »

Quote from: cheeba on August 13, 2008, 12:43:53 PM

Quote from: scubabbl on August 12, 2008, 10:55:44 PM

The matrix 2 and 3.
I don't know of a single person who likes Matrix 2 and 3.

Actually I am a big fan of the second one.  That freeway chase scene is amazing.  I also liked the Architect explanation scene at the end even though I know many people hated it.


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And whoever said Saving Private Ryan is a terrible movie earlier in the thread is off his rocker.   icon_biggrin
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« Reply #159 on: August 15, 2008, 02:35:53 PM »

Quote from: Crux on August 15, 2008, 09:57:03 AM

Quote from: CeeKay on August 15, 2008, 05:55:04 AM

Plus Leonardo DIES!!!!

WTF CeeKay? Spoiler Tags Please!!!!

At least I didn't mention the ship sinks at the end.
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