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« Reply #80 on: February 24, 2009, 06:20:01 PM »

Quote from: Starshifter on February 24, 2009, 03:14:04 PM

This is a very interesting topic.  I often wondered how normal people can go see disturbing films.  I've seen a lot of the films you guys are mentioning such as OLDBOY, VERSUS and PANS LABYRINTH etc.  I find zero entertainment in these types of films anymore.  I can't stand seeing rape and human torture in any form.  For example, I caught pieces of the original SAW and couldn't stand it.  I found it impossible to look directly at the screen.  I usually approach these films as a see it once and forget about it type of film.  Now, since I'm older, I just avoid them all together.  I want to come out of watching a film and feel good and inspired and relaxed and not uptight, tense, panicky and foreboding.

Other disturbing films (to me) that I remember seeing are THE HILLS HAVE EYES (original), MIDNIGHT EXPRESS (which has convinced me to never leave this country - and I have not), REST STOP and pretty much all Asian horror films.

I think there are films that glorify violence and depravity through their apathy (and oftentimes, outright revelry) towards the subject matter.  Those films I find truly disturbing.  But to say that films including violence should be avoided (although I should note in all fairness you're not advocating that for everyone, just for yourself) is unfair.  A film like Pan's Labyrinth never once displays its violence as if it is anything other than evil and loathsome.  The violence is there because it is set during a war.  To avoid that topic altogether would ruin the context of the film.  It would destroy the urgency of the story, the tragedy of it. 
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« Reply #81 on: February 24, 2009, 06:40:27 PM »

Interesting thread.

-My brother found the Nicholas Cage starrer "8 millimeter" (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0134273/) very disturbing. I seem to recall he said he was on business travel in Florida when he saw it in a nearly deserted theater.

-I guess if you include movies seen on videotape/DVD, I found Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099763/) just as deeply disturbing as reviews suggested. But I do think it's worth watching for anyone who thinks serial killers in real life are remotely as charming or debonair as often portrayed in films. Henry's like sitting through a depressing serial killer documentary, and I kind of felt like I needed a shower after watching it. It's unrelenting, there's no one to "root for" etc. A female friend and I had rented that and Kenneth Branagh's Henry V as a "Henry doubleheader," and I'm glad she fell asleep during Henry V and didn't see "the other" Henry.  icon_razz

-Most people today find "The Exorcist" a hoot when they see it on TV, but seeing it as an 8 year old in late 1973 (a few months after we lost my dad, so I was already kind of a mess), it was the most disturbing movie I saw as a child. In the year or so after that, I got scared whenever I even heard the theme music from the movie. paranoid
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« Reply #82 on: February 24, 2009, 08:17:02 PM »

Quote from: Blackjack on February 24, 2009, 06:40:27 PM

-My brother found the Nicholas Cage starrer "8 millimeter" (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0134273/) very disturbing. I seem to recall he said he was on business travel in Florida when he saw it in a nearly deserted theater.
There is nothing in that movie (about an investigator looking into a snuff film) approaching the level of disturbing that was Nicolas Cage's acting.
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« Reply #83 on: February 24, 2009, 08:51:31 PM »

The Exorcist with George C. Scott was pretty disturbing to me as was the movie, also with GCS, Hardcore.

there was a moment in Glory, the beach scene before they marched off to die that was deeply deeply disturbing to me.  In fact that scene and the Saving Private Ryan scene where the old man is at the grave hit me the same way.

And it just occurred to me that Saving Chance that aired on Saturday was deeply disturbing in the same way.  i had one of my best friends die in a helicopter crash of Okinawa and to me Kevin Bacon wasn't taking Chance home he was taking Jeff home.  If have not seen Taking Chance I highly recommend it.
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« Reply #84 on: February 24, 2009, 08:57:12 PM »

I've never seen a movie as disturbing as the shit I've seen in real life. 
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« Reply #85 on: February 24, 2009, 08:58:18 PM »

Quote from: Blackadar on February 24, 2009, 08:57:12 PM

I've never seen a movie as disturbing as the shit I've seen in real life. 

still giving sponge baths at the nursing home for a living, eh?
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« Reply #86 on: February 24, 2009, 08:59:31 PM »

Quote from: hepcat on February 24, 2009, 08:58:18 PM

Quote from: Blackadar on February 24, 2009, 08:57:12 PM

I've never seen a movie as disturbing as the shit I've seen in real life. 

still giving sponge baths at the nursing home for a living, eh?

Or he still hasn't learned to stop hiding in your closet.
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« Reply #87 on: February 24, 2009, 09:28:46 PM »

Irreversible, which has already been mentioned
Schindler's List, when Ralph Fiennes takes some casual target practice from his balcony
Jude, for one specific scene I'd rather not spoil
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« Reply #88 on: February 24, 2009, 09:35:06 PM »

Quote from: PeteRock on February 24, 2009, 08:59:31 PM

Quote from: hepcat on February 24, 2009, 08:58:18 PM

Quote from: Blackadar on February 24, 2009, 08:57:12 PM

I've never seen a movie as disturbing as the shit I've seen in real life. 

still giving sponge baths at the nursing home for a living, eh?

Or he still hasn't learned to stop hiding in your closet.

don't be silly.  it's not hiding if i invited him.
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« Reply #89 on: February 24, 2009, 10:03:08 PM »

Quote from: hepcat on February 24, 2009, 09:35:06 PM

Quote from: PeteRock on February 24, 2009, 08:59:31 PM

Quote from: hepcat on February 24, 2009, 08:58:18 PM

Quote from: Blackadar on February 24, 2009, 08:57:12 PM

I've never seen a movie as disturbing as the shit I've seen in real life. 

still giving sponge baths at the nursing home for a living, eh?

Or he still hasn't learned to stop accepting invites to your closet.

don't be silly.  it's not hiding if i invited him.

Better?
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« Reply #90 on: February 24, 2009, 10:06:19 PM »

The original Wicker Man.  It didn't help that my gf (now ex) who showed it to me fancied herself a witch and tried to defend the reasons behind the whole thing as perfectly reasonable.  Not that her beliefs would allow that, but still...  :shudder: 

I won't be in the same building when that film is running.
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« Reply #91 on: February 25, 2009, 02:36:32 AM »

I saw the wicker man with Nicholas Cage.. don't think it was 'disturbing' but definitely strange.

Since a couple people here have seen the newer Funny Games (had no idea it was even a remake) can someone explain something to me..

Spoiler for Hiden:
How the hell did he rewind time like that and bring his friend back to life? And then out on the lake as they were paddling with the wife in the boat.. am I missing something to the over all story here?
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« Reply #92 on: February 25, 2009, 03:24:04 AM »

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on February 24, 2009, 12:46:41 PM

Quote from: Jeff on February 24, 2009, 02:55:05 AM

What really disturbed me were two scenes from two movies:

1. the slow knife in Saving Private Ryan


I still mull that scene from time to time. When I saw it for the first time in the theater, I literally got light headed and almost blacked out.


To me, it stands out as the single most disturbing scene I've ever seen (the curb stomp being close second). To me, these type scenes are truly disturbing, because they involve realistic situations, and intimate situations.

The first time I saw the 'slow knife', I just had to put my head down into my hands and cry. It just really got to me. I went to see SPR again the next night, and got my ass out of the theater for the length of that scene. I've never watched SPR again since (1998), even though I bought the DVD.

The scene goes beyond a simple man vs man struggle. There is a much deeper implication behind it. The German, a Nazi, is using a Hitler Youth Knife, and slowly draining the life of a young Jewish man. It was a microcosm of the Holocaust.

The German whispers (in German), something to the affect of "shhh, just rest. It is much better for you to be free from all of this"  icon_cry


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« Reply #93 on: February 25, 2009, 03:27:25 AM »

Quote from: PeteRock on February 24, 2009, 10:03:08 PM

Quote from: hepcat on February 24, 2009, 09:35:06 PM

Quote from: PeteRock on February 24, 2009, 08:59:31 PM

Quote from: hepcat on February 24, 2009, 08:58:18 PM

Quote from: Blackadar on February 24, 2009, 08:57:12 PM

I've never seen a movie as disturbing as the shit I've seen in real life. 

still giving sponge baths at the nursing home for a living, eh?

Or he still hasn't learned to stop accepting invites to your closet.

don't be silly.  it's not hiding if i invited him.

Better?

Heck, that's not disturbing.  I await those moments with eager anticipation.
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« Reply #94 on: February 25, 2009, 04:49:21 AM »

Quote from: corruptrelic on February 25, 2009, 02:36:32 AM

I saw the wicker man with Nicholas Cage.. don't think it was 'disturbing' but definitely strange.

I won't watch that one.  I have no desire to be anywhere near anything associated with that "story."
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« Reply #95 on: February 25, 2009, 01:36:56 PM »

Jeff's synopsis of his feelings for that scene has made me recall the most disturbing movie I've ever seen and I'm not sure how we're almost 3 pages in and no one has mentioned it: Schindler's List.

There are so many things wrong with what that movie depicts, it's overwhelming from start to finish. The fact that it is based on what really happened is soul crushing.

I watched it for the first time when I was in college, locking myself in and not answering the door and I was depressed for days afterward.  I openly wept during it and there are so many scenes in that movie that I can recall up but am trying not to as I type this.

I've always wanted to see it again, but not really want to see it again.  That movie shook me to my foundation.
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« Reply #96 on: February 25, 2009, 01:42:27 PM »

Way before I saw Schindlers List i had read Mila 18, QB VII and Armageddon by Leon Uris and watched Judgment at Nuremberg several times so Schindlers List shock value was mitigated.  Just like if you read Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee there is little that could be depicted that would shock a person because you have a good idea what is coming.
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« Reply #97 on: February 25, 2009, 02:01:01 PM »

Sensous, Schindlers List didn't have that same effect on me; if you had heard what the Mennonites had gone through with the Bolshevik revolution, and then to follow that up with WWI and WWII, they were herded and killed just as much as any Jew in Nazi Germany. The local churches here had gotten together and put together stories and footage of the almost perpetual exodus from one homestead to another in the 20th century. There was one picture taken (that stuck out for me) of a bombed out building that I doubt I could have hid in given the missing wall that (IIRC) 45 families had to hide in while waiting for a boat that was three days late and had Nazi patrols passing every 15 minutes.

I think my mom still has the video tape; perhaps I should get it onto PC and upload it to YouTube.

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« Reply #98 on: February 25, 2009, 03:23:52 PM »

Quote from: Purge on February 25, 2009, 02:01:01 PM

if you had heard what the Mennonites had gone through with the Bolshevik revolution, and then to follow that up with WWI and WWII, they were herded and killed just as much as any Jew in Nazi Germany.
What an odd thing to say.
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« Reply #99 on: February 25, 2009, 03:43:51 PM »

I'm confused by the last two posts.

I think purgey was just saying he was well aware of other atrocities so those in the movie were not particularly disturbing to him.

As for his reply and the one by Jaddison, I had spent much time reading about the Holocaust long before seeing the movie. But still, seeing it play out in front of my eyes was very different than reading about it.
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« Reply #100 on: February 25, 2009, 03:52:51 PM »

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« Reply #101 on: February 25, 2009, 04:03:27 PM »

The horrors of Nazi Germany existed closer for me and perhaps, since I grew up learning about it through classes (Germany is WELL AWARE of their past - german classes in Canada clearly reflected that ... back when I was in school we learned that due to WWII german kids were not allowed to sing their national anthem in school, and they dropped the first two verses) followed by two decades of media blitz where games, movies, books in my life all centered around it. How many games can you think of that center around the penultimate bad-guy, the National Socialist Party leader, Man of the Year 1938?

The Nazi party did not invent genocide, nor was the Holocaust the most lethal, even in it's own 20th century. Since the "Holocaust" only covers the shocking 5.3 million jews (as represented in Schindlers List which is a small yet significant tale of someone helping those he shouldn't), the other 10+ million deaths aren't even mentioned or remembered including members of my family. Perhaps Mennonite doesn't mean much to you, and although I do not adopt their beliefs of a Christian god and the teaching of Menno, it is still very relevant for me. The people in those concentration camps weren't all jews; some estimates have them as less than a third.
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"The term "the Holocaust" is generally used to describe the killing of approximately six million European Jews during World War II, as part of a program of deliberate extermination planned and executed by the National Socialist German Workers Party in Germany led by Adolf Hitler.[117] A majority of scholars do not include other groups in the definition of the Holocaust, reserving the term to refer only to the genocide of the Jews,[118] or what the Nazis called the "Final Solution of the Jewish Question.""

"Other targets of the Nazi mass murder or "Nazi genocidal policy",[121] included Slavs (Poles, Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, Serbs, and others), Romani people (see Porajmos), mentally ill (see T-4 Euthanasia Program), Homosexuals and "sexual deviants", Jehovah Witnesses, and political opponents. R. J. Rummel estimates that 16,315,000 people died as a result of genocide, just over 10.5 million Slavs, just under 5.3 million Jews, 258,000 Romani and 220,000 homosexuals.[122][123] Donald Niewyk suggests that the broadest definition would produce a death toll of 17 million.[124] A figure of 26 million is given in Service d'Information des Crimes de Guerre: Crimes contre la Personne Humain, Camps de Concentration. Paris, 1946, p. 197."

I think that covers it (since I'm not going to say ANYTHING about Israel), so let's move on with other disturbing films. If you take issue with my statement and want to be political, bring up a new thread in the appropriate forum, Cheeba.

Sensous, I know what you mean about being played before your eyes ... the oft-recreated opening scenes in SPR bring that in vivid detail for me; it's just that Schindlers List was not my first vivid exposure to this, nor was it out-of-the-blue, and it was basically something that was exclusive to one set of people. It was disturbing none-the-less, but it didn't rank up as high as for you. smile

To clarify for hepcat: my initial post was in response to SL's, not to Jaddison. I've updated it to reflect that (darn my not using the quote button!).
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« Reply #102 on: February 25, 2009, 04:15:45 PM »

Quote from: corruptrelic on February 25, 2009, 02:36:32 AM

Since a couple people here have seen the newer Funny Games (had no idea it was even a remake) can someone explain something to me..

Spoiler for Hiden:
How the hell did he rewind time like that and bring his friend back to life? And then out on the lake as they were paddling with the wife in the boat.. am I missing something to the over all story here?

Spoiler for Hiden:
Well, the rewind bit is the director screwing with the audience, breaking the fourth wall.  I actually wrote about that scene in college.  My take is that the two bad guys are the director's avatars on screen.  By that point in the movie, they had completely taken control of the family, and forced them to play the game by their rules, and forced you as the audience to play along.  When the wife grabs the shotgun and kills the chubby one, the rules have been broken, and the family and the audience are both given an opportunity to win.  Well, turns out that in addition to the villains/director being sadistic control freaks, they also cheat.  Grabbing the remote and rewinding is the director's way of saying "Yeah, you (both the characters and the audience) aren't getting out of this one alive."  I'm pretty sure the characters aren't aware of what happened, but the audience now knows that no happy ending is possible.

As for the ending (and I'm assuming that you're referring to the wife discovering the knife, getting it taken away, and then shoved overboard), well, the game was over, and since we've already established that the villains don't play fair, they simply kill her so that they "win".  Then they move on to the next house and do it all over again.

If you're talking about the conversation about reality/fiction, well, that just goes back to the movie blurring the lines of fantasy and reality.  Their characters ostensibly believe that they exist in reality, yet they rewind time and talk to the audience, so perhaps they're aware that they exist in a fictional universe.

If you're talking about the music, I think that band is the director's brother, and I think is used throughout the movie to jar the audience.
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« Reply #103 on: February 25, 2009, 05:09:17 PM »

It's not that SL did not touch me, it did.  But they were portraying things I had read about many many times and most of the things I read described things more disturbing than SL.

After reading The Gulag Archipelago or reading about the cultural revolution in China you get a little numb to vastness and almost unlimited scale of cruelty.

The world said never again after the Holocaust...yet it didn't take long for the world to right back to the genocide business and business has been good.
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« Reply #104 on: February 25, 2009, 06:26:08 PM »

I have to second "The Cell". There are several scenes in that movie that give me nightmares to this day. There is a scene of violence involving a horse that is easily the most horrific thing I have ever seen.

Although I'm a huge fan of it now, when I first saw "The Thing" I was 10. I have hated winter and dog kennels ever since. Rob Bottin's effects and Bill Lancaster's paranoia-filled script are utterly brilliant.

There was this war movie with Mark Hammill I saw part of once. It had a scene where several soldiers hiding in foxholes get run over by a tank. That made me sick. Dunno what movie that was though.
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« Reply #105 on: February 25, 2009, 06:33:53 PM »

Quote from: Purge on February 25, 2009, 04:03:27 PM

If you take issue with my statement and want to be political, bring up a new thread in the appropriate forum, Cheeba.
I don't see why any of the context you provided would have any affect on one watching a story about the holocaust. I also don't see why you think you've more knowledge or education on the matter than anyone else here. Nor do I see any relevance to watching Schindler's List and current German education about the holocaust or the verses included in Germany's national anthem.

So don't give me shit about wanting this to be a political thing, as your political views about the holocaust obviously conflict with your appreciation of Schindler's List. Personally, even with the knowledge of what happened with the holocaust and that people other than jews were killed (some of us took classes too!), I was still able to appreciate and be moved by The Killing Fields, even though those Cambodians (et al) "were herded and killed just as much as any Jew in Nazi Germany."
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« Reply #106 on: February 25, 2009, 06:36:17 PM »

Quote from: Orgull on February 25, 2009, 06:26:08 PM

There was this war movie with Mark Hammill I saw part of once. It had a scene where several soldiers hiding in foxholes get run over by a tank. That made me sick. Dunno what movie that was though.

The Big Red One??
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« Reply #107 on: February 25, 2009, 06:53:54 PM »

Quote from: cheeba on February 25, 2009, 06:33:53 PM

Quote from: Purge on February 25, 2009, 04:03:27 PM

If you take issue with my statement and want to be political, bring up a new thread in the appropriate forum, Cheeba.
I don't see why any of the context you provided would have any affect on one watching a story about the holocaust. I also don't see why you think you've more knowledge or education on the matter than anyone else here. Nor do I see any relevance to watching Schindler's List and current German education about the holocaust or the verses included in Germany's national anthem.

So don't give me shit about wanting this to be a political thing, as your political views about the holocaust obviously conflict with your appreciation of Schindler's List. Personally, even with the knowledge of what happened with the holocaust and that people other than jews were killed (some of us took classes too!), I was still able to appreciate and be moved by The Killing Fields, even though those Cambodians (et al) "were herded and killed just as much as any Jew in Nazi Germany."

Hey guess what?  Not the right place to have this discussion.  Purge's suggestion ("bring up a new thread in the appropriate forum, Cheeba") is a good one.  Take it somewhere else.
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« Reply #108 on: February 25, 2009, 06:54:27 PM »

Quote from: Isgrimnur on February 25, 2009, 06:36:17 PM

Quote from: Orgull on February 25, 2009, 06:26:08 PM

There was this war movie with Mark Hammill I saw part of once. It had a scene where several soldiers hiding in foxholes get run over by a tank. That made me sick. Dunno what movie that was though.

The Big Red One??

I'm pretty sure there is a scene in that movie where a guy gets shot in the crotch and the guy trying to help him out just tosses his nuts to the side.
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« Reply #109 on: February 25, 2009, 06:59:02 PM »

Quote from: Isgrimnur on February 25, 2009, 06:36:17 PM

Quote from: Orgull on February 25, 2009, 06:26:08 PM

There was this war movie with Mark Hammill I saw part of once. It had a scene where several soldiers hiding in foxholes get run over by a tank. That made me sick. Dunno what movie that was though.

The Big Red One??

You sure it wasn't Corvette Summer?
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« Reply #110 on: February 25, 2009, 07:13:46 PM »

Quote from: hepcat on February 25, 2009, 06:59:02 PM

Quote from: Isgrimnur on February 25, 2009, 06:36:17 PM

Quote from: Orgull on February 25, 2009, 06:26:08 PM

There was this war movie with Mark Hammill I saw part of once. It had a scene where several soldiers hiding in foxholes get run over by a tank. That made me sick. Dunno what movie that was though.

The Big Red One??

You sure it wasn't Corvette Summer?

Nice!  Loved that movie.  Seriously.
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« Reply #111 on: February 25, 2009, 07:20:28 PM »

Quote from: warning on February 25, 2009, 06:53:54 PM

Hey guess what?  Not the right place to have this discussion.  Purge's suggestion ("bring up a new thread in the appropriate forum, Cheeba") is a good one.  Take it somewhere else.
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« Reply #112 on: February 25, 2009, 07:48:39 PM »

Quote from: Jaddison on February 25, 2009, 05:09:17 PM

the cultural revolution in China

Can you recommend some titles in the books read 2009 thread?


Quote from: Jaddison on February 25, 2009, 05:09:17 PM

It's not that SL did not touch me, it did. 

At first, I thought SL meant SensuousLettuce. At first I was like, WHAT!? and then I was like  unibrow

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« Reply #113 on: February 25, 2009, 09:02:40 PM »

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on February 25, 2009, 07:48:39 PM

Quote from: Jaddison on February 25, 2009, 05:09:17 PM

the cultural revolution in China

Can you recommend some titles in the books read 2009 thread?


Quote from: Jaddison on February 25, 2009, 05:09:17 PM

It's not that SL did not touch me, it did. 

At first, I thought SL meant SensuousLettuce. At first I was like, WHAT!? and then I was like  unibrow

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I lol'd.
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« Reply #114 on: February 25, 2009, 09:15:54 PM »

Quote from: Isgrimnur on February 25, 2009, 06:36:17 PM

Quote from: Orgull on February 25, 2009, 06:26:08 PM

There was this war movie with Mark Hammill I saw part of once. It had a scene where several soldiers hiding in foxholes get run over by a tank. That made me sick. Dunno what movie that was though.

The Big Red One??
I think that's it! That movie was disturbing.  tear
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« Reply #115 on: February 26, 2009, 12:00:20 AM »

Quote from: Orgull on February 25, 2009, 09:15:54 PM

Quote from: Isgrimnur on February 25, 2009, 06:36:17 PM

Quote from: Orgull on February 25, 2009, 06:26:08 PM

There was this war movie with Mark Hammill I saw part of once. It had a scene where several soldiers hiding in foxholes get run over by a tank. That made me sick. Dunno what movie that was though.

The Big Red One??
I think that's it! That movie was disturbing.  tear

As I recall, the tanks passed over them, didn't they?
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« Reply #116 on: February 26, 2009, 12:04:49 AM »

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on February 25, 2009, 07:48:39 PM

Quote from: Jaddison on February 25, 2009, 05:09:17 PM

the cultural revolution in China

Can you recommend some titles in the books read 2009 thread?


Quote from: Jaddison on February 25, 2009, 05:09:17 PM

It's not that SL did not touch me, it did. 

At first, I thought SL meant SensuousLettuce. At first I was like, WHAT!? and then I was like  unibrow

slywink

Not that there is anything wrong with that eek

My Chinese political/military systems class was long ago but I will go mine amazon to see what looks familiar...and I am not buying anything.. I swear...I think....I hope
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« Reply #117 on: February 26, 2009, 03:04:53 AM »

The most disturbing movie i've seen in awhile was "The Strangers".   It really stayed with me for awhile.. Really freakin creepy...

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« Reply #118 on: February 26, 2009, 06:17:41 PM »

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on February 25, 2009, 01:36:56 PM

Jeff's synopsis of his feelings for that scene has made me recall the most disturbing movie I've ever seen and I'm not sure how we're almost 3 pages in and no one has mentioned it: Schindler's List.

I mentioned it above and highlighted a specific scene.  I recall waiting to see Schindler's List until I could watch it at home because I didn't want to see it out in public in a theater.
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« Reply #119 on: February 26, 2009, 06:25:43 PM »

Quote from: Purge on February 25, 2009, 02:01:01 PM

Oh, Alive has not been mentioned.

I have to agree.  I watched it one night on HBO when I was younger as I had heard that it was an inspiring story about how a soccer team managed to survive horrible elements following a plane crash.  What I didn't know was how they survived.   icon_eek

That film continues to come to mind from time to time as I just can't wrap my mind around the idea of cannibalism, no matter how dire the circumstances.  For some reason Ravenous didn't bother me nearly as much, even though it may have been far more graphic in its depiction of cannibalism. 

Guess I should add Ravenous to the list, anyway, as it was a pretty F-ed up film.  But sickly entertaining. 
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