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« on: December 04, 2014, 03:21:04 PM »

Out late 2015, directed by James Mendez

In case you have forgotten, that stands for
SPecial Executive for Counter-intelligence, Terrorism, Revenge and Extortion.  


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« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2014, 03:28:30 PM »

My contrived acronym ever. 

Two letters from the first wrod, none from the third or seventh... 
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« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2014, 03:40:53 PM »

Quote from: farley2k on December 04, 2014, 03:28:30 PM

My contrived acronym ever. 

Two letters from the first wrod, none from the third or seventh... 

yes, but nobody would be afraid of Sefcitrae
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« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2014, 04:04:11 PM »

Quote from: Caine on December 04, 2014, 03:40:53 PM

Quote from: farley2k on December 04, 2014, 03:28:30 PM

My contrived acronym ever.  

Two letters from the first wrod, none from the third or seventh...  

yes, but nobody would be afraid of Sefcitrae

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Late 2015 is shaping up to be a nice time for films!
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« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2014, 05:11:08 PM »

Cristoph Waltz is joining the cast!
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« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2014, 05:13:04 PM »

Hank Scorpio!  

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« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2014, 08:31:30 PM »

Guess that lame-ass group QUANTUM isn't SPECTRE after all.

Skyfall was the shit. Can't wait to see this!
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« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2014, 02:49:20 PM »

Why is this thread titled Bond #27 when everyone else acknowledges this to be Bond #24?
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« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2014, 04:41:42 PM »

Quote from: pr0ner on December 05, 2014, 02:49:20 PM

Why is this thread titled Bond #27 when everyone else acknowledges this to be Bond #24?
not sure where I got that from...
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« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2014, 04:54:06 PM »

Quote from: Caine on December 05, 2014, 04:41:42 PM

Quote from: pr0ner on December 05, 2014, 02:49:20 PM

Why is this thread titled Bond #27 when everyone else acknowledges this to be Bond #24?
not sure where I got that from...

If you count both previous Casino Royale films, as well as Never Say Never Again, this is number 27. Then again, that would be dumb. Tongue
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« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2014, 05:48:11 PM »

Why not use KAOS?  That's an organization that needs to be brought back!
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« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2014, 07:57:47 PM »

Quote from: hepcat on December 05, 2014, 05:48:11 PM

Why not use KAOS?  That's an organization that needs to be brought back!

Waltz could play Dr. Craw.

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Not "craw" - CRAW!

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« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2014, 10:18:58 PM »

Apparently Quantum may be involved in this movie somehow.
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« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2014, 07:03:26 AM »

The way I saw it according to the 3 previous in the way they were building things up, was that Quantum was a sub-division of sorts from within the bigger Spectre. I seem to remember Skyfall pushing it into that direction.
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« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2014, 02:46:06 PM »

Quote from: Rumpy on December 07, 2014, 07:03:26 AM

The way I saw it according to the 3 previous in the way they were building things up, was that Quantum was a sub-division of sorts from within the bigger Spectre. I seem to remember Skyfall pushing it into that direction.

Maybe I need to watch it again, but the feeling I got from Skyfall was that Quantum wasn't involved in any way.
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« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2014, 07:34:53 PM »

The gist is that somewhere along they way, they figure out that there's a shadowy organization calling Quantum's shots, with it being revealed at the end of Skyfall, with Bond effectively going up the chain. That would certainly explain Quantum's involvement in the next movie. Of course, another theory could be that it's a splinter group.

Interesting thing about the Bulgarian subtitles for Quantum of Solace, Quantum was translated as SPECTRE with the title changing to Spectre of Solace.
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« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2014, 08:20:37 PM »

Quote from: Rumpy on December 07, 2014, 07:34:53 PM

The gist is that somewhere along they way, they figure out that there's a shadowy organization calling Quantum's shots, with it being revealed at the end of Skyfall, with Bond effectively going up the chain. That would certainly explain Quantum's involvement in the next movie. Of course, another theory could be that it's a splinter group.

Errr...yeah, I don't remember ANY of that, since a) there's no reveal of Quantum that I know of at all in Skyfall, and b) the Bond Wiki says Quantum doesn't feature in Skyfall at all.
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« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2014, 09:17:37 PM »

Yeah, Skyfall is the only Bond-movie with Daniel Craig that doesn't feature Quantum in any way. Quantum of Solace resolved the most immediate parts of that plot, leaving SPECTRE to pick up the pieces.
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« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2014, 07:16:43 PM »

And they didn't need to be featured, as Skyfall had an underlying theme of transition throughout. But I'm not the only one who got that vibe out of it. If you search around online, you see a lot of people asking, "Is Quantum part of SPECTRE/Should Quantum be part of SPECTRE?" The reveal I'm speaking about is when they reveal SPECTRE towards the end, but the feeling one can get is that he's dealt with them in some form or another, ie Quantum. It's never explicitly stated, but one can read between the lines. He's in effect now going up against a more specialized unit.

This from CinemaBlend:
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However, if Christensen's statement is true, it looks like not only will we see Mr. White returning in Spectre, but that SPECTRE just might be behind, born from, or taking over Quantum itself.

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Spectre-Bringing-Back-James-Bond-Villain-68531.html

And my best guest regarding Mr White is that he'll be their contact into getting into finding and getting into SPECTRE HQ. If I'm wrong I'll eat a hat.
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« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2014, 08:49:16 PM »

I'm not following you, to be honest. Are you saying that SPECTRE was mentioned, or even alluded to, at the end of Skyfall? Because that's what it sounds like you're saying.
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« Reply #20 on: December 08, 2014, 08:53:24 PM »

Screw SPECTRE, bring back Le Chiffre.  Any movie can only be improved by the presence of the great Mads Mikkelsen.
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« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2014, 09:44:03 PM »

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« Reply #22 on: December 09, 2014, 07:24:39 PM »

Quote from: TiLT on December 08, 2014, 08:49:16 PM

I'm not following you, to be honest. Are you saying that SPECTRE was mentioned, or even alluded to, at the end of Skyfall? Because that's what it sounds like you're saying.

I'm remembering a line at the end of Skyfall where SPECTRE was mentioned, yes. After all the problems MI6 were having, like the virus, they eventually come to find out that an organization called SPECTRE is behind it all, queue the end. So we know by the end of the movie that SPECTRE will be involved in the next movie. This I implicitly remember. It's why I wasn't so surprised that the next movie would feature SPECTRE. I was more surprised that they chose to name the movie after it, though.

Craig's Bond movies have had a story-arc running through them. In terms of the timeline,  at the end of Quantum of Solace, it wouldn't be too difficult to believe that due to Quantum's failure in killing Bond throughout CR and QoS, that an organization higher up on the chain, displeased with the results thus far,  would be sent to infiltrate the organization that Bond works for;  enter SPECTRE, a more specialized org full of shadow operatives designed to do just that. They would, as you say, be picking up the pieces from a failed operation and hitting them where it hurts. But why would they if they weren't related in some manner? There's a relation there somewhere.

And I know Quantum was created because they hadn't yet had the rights to SPECTRE, but if you look at the whole picture from all Craig's Bond movies so far, it looks perfectly orchestrated to fully take advantage of the situation.
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« Reply #23 on: December 09, 2014, 08:37:27 PM »

No, I don't think SPECTRE was ever mentioned in Skyfall, not least because, as you say, they didn't have the rights to do so.
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« Reply #24 on: December 10, 2014, 07:23:53 PM »

My memory might be failing me then, but they must have known at the time that Skyfall was being produced that they'd have the rights to it for the next movie. Not to mention that it seemed open-ended enough to have the opportunity for it to happen should they have the option. Everything falls into place.   To me, it was pretty clear it's what it was going to be, even if it wasn't explicitly stated. Maybe they never got mentioned by name, but there was a large enough clue somewhere, or else I wouldn't be thinking of it.
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« Reply #25 on: December 11, 2014, 02:22:56 PM »

I rewatched the movie yesterday up to the point where Bond gets to the Skyfall estate, and nothing up to that point hints at, or mentions, SPECTRE.
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« Reply #26 on: December 11, 2014, 06:21:12 PM »

Then I will respectfully concede. Thanks for checking, Pr0ner. Guess we'll have to wait and see the direction they take it in.
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