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« on: October 16, 2006, 03:05:22 PM »

So after almost a decade of glasses I finally decided I'd had enough and I'm going to get Lasik surgery to repair my eyes tomorrow.  Anyone here have it done?  I'm kinda nervous...
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« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2006, 03:07:09 PM »

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on October 16, 2006, 03:05:22 PM

So after almost a decade of glasses I finally decided I'd had enough and I'm going to get Lasik surgery to repair my eyes tomorrow.  Anyone here have it done?  I'm kinda nervous...

I thought about it, but then I read about the procedure and realized I could never go through that myself.  You're a braver man than I am-  Good Luck  icon_biggrin
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« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2006, 03:16:45 PM »

Good luck with it!  I know many people who've done it with great results.  Me?  I'm way too chicken based on what I've heard/read about it (and I don't mind wearing contact lenses, so). 
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« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2006, 03:23:00 PM »

Quote from: JLu on October 16, 2006, 03:16:45 PM

Good luck with it!  I know many people who've done it with great results.  Me?  I'm way too chicken based on what I've heard/read about it (and I don't mind wearing contact lenses, so). 

I tried to wear contacts but I simply couldn't do it.  My eyes burned constantly.  During martial arts my glasses are the biggest nuisance.   I've just had enough.
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« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2006, 03:34:54 PM »

If you don't mind me asking, how much does Lasik cost these days?
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« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2006, 03:38:41 PM »

Quote from: wonderpug on October 16, 2006, 03:34:54 PM

If you don't mind me asking, how much does Lasik cost these days?

It's pretty cheap at Costco, and you can return your eyes if they mess it up!!   thumbsup
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« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2006, 03:39:46 PM »

Here's a picture of when I had it done:

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« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2006, 03:41:06 PM »

Quote from: JLu on October 16, 2006, 03:38:41 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on October 16, 2006, 03:34:54 PM

If you don't mind me asking, how much does Lasik cost these days?

It's pretty cheap at Costco, and you can return your eyes if they mess it up!!   thumbsup

Winnar!

I had mine done in February.  That thread is the saga leading up to and after.

I was on the high end of -9 and am now seeing 20/20 in my left and 20/25 in my right.

Side effects: halos at night (not terrible) and when the seasons change I need lubricating drops.

Cost: 2650 per eye for me.

WOuld have been worth it at double the cost. I now have movie star good looks. thumbsup
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« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2006, 03:47:21 PM »

Quote from: wonderpug on October 16, 2006, 03:34:54 PM

If you don't mind me asking, how much does Lasik cost these days?

I have Astigmatism in both eyes, but my vision isn't too terrible (20/70).  My cost out the door with taxes and lifetime warranty (if ever my vision changes, no matter the cause, they'll correct it) was $2500.00 bucks.

Look at it this way -

I'm 30 years old.  You should see an optometrist every year, so, with a life expectancy of say...75 (saying I die young):

100.00 x 45 = $4500.00 bucks
Even if you go every other year, that is $2250.00.  Add in that you will probably have to buy glasses.  That's at least 200 bucks a pop for frames and lenses.  Let's say you buy a pair every 5 years.

9 x 200 = $1800.00

$4500.00 + $1800.00 = $6300.00

I think the cost more than justifies itself.  You just gotta pay for it up front and you save ~66%
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« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2006, 03:49:39 PM »

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Cost: 2650 per eye for me.

SWEET JESUS!  See the pricing above and you still saved money, but man, you must have been starting from a rough place.
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« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2006, 03:50:29 PM »

Quote from: Ralph-Wiggum on October 16, 2006, 03:39:46 PM

Here's a picture of when I had it done:

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You, sir...are not helping.  icon_twisted
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« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2006, 03:51:59 PM »

After reading ATB's thread on bc...  Yeah, I love the idea of Lasik, but until the day they can knock me unconscsious for the half hour procedure, I'm out!

KD -- the cost is one of those things that has made me think of it too.  Between contacts annually and glasses every other, it adds up fast.
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« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2006, 03:56:58 PM »

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Cost: 2650 per eye for me.

SWEET JESUS!  See the pricing above and you still saved money, but man, you must have been starting from a rough place.

Yah my wife's was around 5k total, but that was... hmm when did the clamshell GBA come out... whenever that was hehe. Yah, that's what I got to balance it out. slywink

I've considered it... but I'm more ok with glasses than I am with the maintenance that lasik requires. I swear we spent a grand on eyedrops before my wife stopping using them constantly. Exaggeration, but not as much of an exaggeration as you think, I bet it was several hundred.
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« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2006, 03:59:45 PM »

Quote from: JLu on October 16, 2006, 03:51:59 PM

After reading ATB's thread on bc...  Yeah, I love the idea of Lasik, but until the day they can knock me unconscsious for the half hour procedure, I'm out!

KD -- the cost is one of those things that has made me think of it too.  Between contacts annually and glasses every other, it adds up fast.

The place I chose is the highest rated place in AZ and they own all 5 of the lasers that they use for procedures. (lowers costs)  They told me that the actual time sitting on the bed for the procedure is less than 5 minutes. 
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« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2006, 04:00:18 PM »

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Cost: 2650 per eye for me.

SWEET JESUS!  See the pricing above and you still saved money, but man, you must have been starting from a rough place.

Yah my wife's was around 5k total, but that was... hmm when did the clamshell GBA come out... whenever that was hehe. Yah, that's what I got to balance it out. slywink

I've considered it... but I'm more ok with glasses than I am with the maintenance that lasik requires. I swear we spent a grand on eyedrops before my wife stopping using them constantly. Exaggeration, but not as much of an exaggeration as you think, I bet it was several hundred.

Did she have chronically dry eyes prior?
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« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2006, 04:01:42 PM »

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on October 16, 2006, 03:50:29 PM

Quote from: Ralph-Wiggum on October 16, 2006, 03:39:46 PM

Here's a picture of when I had it done:

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You, sir...are not helping.  icon_twisted

at least he left out the chainsaw coming down towards your eye.....

oh wait, that's not helping either.  just forget you read that!  icon_biggrin
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« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2006, 04:05:02 PM »

I had it done 5 years ago... it was a breeze.  Can't imagine going back to glasses.  Personally, I'm *very* doctor/surgery-phobic, but it was a non-issue.  You don't feel anything other than a little pressure.  If you need it, they'll usually offer valium beforehand, but I found it wasn't necessary.  My proceedure was $2300 total, but I didn't have to pay for follow-up exams due to my dad being an optometrist.
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« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2006, 04:05:36 PM »

Quote from: CeeKay on October 16, 2006, 04:01:42 PM

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on October 16, 2006, 03:50:29 PM

Quote from: Ralph-Wiggum on October 16, 2006, 03:39:46 PM

Here's a picture of when I had it done:

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You, sir...are not helping.  icon_twisted

at least he left out the chainsaw coming down towards your eye.....

oh wait, that's not helping either.  just forget you read that!  icon_biggrin

Tooooooo late!
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« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2006, 04:08:24 PM »

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on October 16, 2006, 03:59:45 PM

The place I chose is the highest rated place in AZ and they own all 5 of the lasers that they use for procedures. (lowers costs)  They told me that the actual time sitting on the bed for the procedure is less than 5 minutes. 

Five minutes!  Wow.  That really isn't bad at all.
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« Reply #19 on: October 16, 2006, 04:14:46 PM »

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Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on October 16, 2006, 03:59:45 PM

The place I chose is the highest rated place in AZ and they own all 5 of the lasers that they use for procedures. (lowers costs)  They told me that the actual time sitting on the bed for the procedure is less than 5 minutes. 

Five minutes!  Wow.  That really isn't bad at all.

I should qualify - 5 minutes per eye.  Still...
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« Reply #20 on: October 16, 2006, 04:41:51 PM »

I was -9 and off the charts. Astigmatic in both eyes too.  I was a mess.
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« Reply #21 on: October 16, 2006, 04:47:00 PM »

Quick question, does insurance cover this or does it fall under elective surgery?
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« Reply #22 on: October 16, 2006, 04:53:56 PM »

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Quick question, does insurance cover this or does it fall under elective surgery?

Insurance doesn't cover this as best I know -- but I'm pretty sure you can use the medical flexible savings accounts to pay for it (the pretax payroll deduction to be used against medical costs)
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« Reply #23 on: October 16, 2006, 04:59:36 PM »

Quote from: JLu on October 16, 2006, 04:53:56 PM

Quote from: papasmurff on October 16, 2006, 04:47:00 PM

Quick question, does insurance cover this or does it fall under elective surgery?

Insurance doesn't cover this as best I know -- but I'm pretty sure you can use the medical flexible savings accounts to pay for it (the pretax payroll deduction to be used against medical costs)

You are correct sir, on both accounts.
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« Reply #24 on: October 16, 2006, 06:08:25 PM »

Quote from: JLu on October 16, 2006, 04:53:56 PM

Quote from: papasmurff on October 16, 2006, 04:47:00 PM

Quick question, does insurance cover this or does it fall under elective surgery?
Insurance doesn't cover this as best I know -- but I'm pretty sure you can use the medical flexible savings accounts to pay for it (the pretax payroll deduction to be used against medical costs)

It depends on your insurance. Last time I checked, my insurance at work covers it mostly (ends up being $500-1000 per eye).

As for Ron's question - one of the employees here had it done a month or so ago. Turned out great. One thing to remember though - you'll be putting in eye drops every 15 minutes or so for the first week or 4 after it's done. The better job you do keeping your eyes wet up front, the better off the whole operation will go.

Good luck to you and enjoy your life without glasses.
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Cost: 2650 per eye for me.

SWEET JESUS!  See the pricing above and you still saved money, but man, you must have been starting from a rough place.

Yah my wife's was around 5k total, but that was... hmm when did the clamshell GBA come out... whenever that was hehe. Yah, that's what I got to balance it out. slywink

I've considered it... but I'm more ok with glasses than I am with the maintenance that lasik requires. I swear we spent a grand on eyedrops before my wife stopping using them constantly. Exaggeration, but not as much of an exaggeration as you think, I bet it was several hundred.

Did she have chronically dry eyes prior?

Nope she had to learn how to use eyedrops at the doctor's office. Her aim was terrible for the first few hours.
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« Reply #26 on: October 16, 2006, 06:48:41 PM »

No matter how much you hate them, WEAR THE GOGGLES WHEN YOU SLEEP.  Do it faithfully for 3-4 weeks.  It's annoying, but man it will save your eyeballzorz.
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No matter how much you hate them, WEAR THE GOGGLES WHEN YOU SLEEP.  Do it faithfully for 3-4 weeks.  It's annoying, but man it will save your eyeballzorz.

Well, I'd like to keep them, so yea, I guess I will.  biggrin
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« Reply #28 on: October 16, 2006, 07:27:32 PM »

I know VSP covers this, not all, but a certain percentage.
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« Reply #29 on: October 16, 2006, 09:01:46 PM »

Had it done a few years ago. One of the best things I ever did. I only wore the goggles for a few nights (I did it as long as they told me to). No worries!
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« Reply #30 on: October 16, 2006, 09:10:47 PM »

I know a few people who have done Lasik and they are all happy with the worst effect being dry eyes.  I wouldn't be worried unless your going to some hack.

OH, and don't flinch when that needle goes into your eyeball.



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« Reply #31 on: October 17, 2006, 01:59:20 AM »

I would be afraid of moving my eyes when that "laser" is trying to shoot them. 

When I think of the eye drops thing, all I can think about is when Homer had eye surgery and as soon as they tried to give him the drops ("Oh, yeah, sure.  That's how they get you with all the add-on costs." "But they're free." "I said good day to you, sir!") and how his eyes crust over on the drive home.
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« Reply #32 on: October 17, 2006, 02:08:08 AM »

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on October 16, 2006, 03:05:22 PM

So after almost a decade of glasses I finally decided I'd had enough and I'm going to get Lasik surgery to repair my eyes tomorrow.  Anyone here have it done?  I'm kinda nervous...

Don't do it unless you've done a ton of research..  Start here:

http://www.joeuser.com/articlecomments.asp?AID=32264&s=1

There are many different machines and techniques involved. It is elective surgery, as with all elective surgery, there are risks.  People can, and do lose vision having this done, so it really pays to research.
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« Reply #33 on: October 17, 2006, 02:21:00 AM »

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on October 16, 2006, 03:47:21 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on October 16, 2006, 03:34:54 PM

If you don't mind me asking, how much does Lasik cost these days?

I have Astigmatism in both eyes, but my vision isn't too terrible (20/70).  My cost out the door with taxes and lifetime warranty (if ever my vision changes, no matter the cause, they'll correct it) was $2500.00 bucks.

Look at it this way -

I'm 30 years old.  You should see an optometrist every year, so, with a life expectancy of say...75 (saying I die young):

100.00 x 45 = $4500.00 bucks
Even if you go every other year, that is $2250.00.  Add in that you will probably have to buy glasses.  That's at least 200 bucks a pop for frames and lenses.  Let's say you buy a pair every 5 years.

9 x 200 = $1800.00

$4500.00 + $1800.00 = $6300.00

I think the cost more than justifies itself.  You just gotta pay for it up front and you save ~66%


Your figures are way off from what I pay, and I wear glasses.  My correction is very very slight, I don't REALLY have to wear them, thus I am not a candidate for surgery - not that I would want it - as I avoid elective surgery.  $2500 sounds really high,  Henry Ford Eye Institute, the states leading eye surgery place in Michigan, charges about $450 per eye. I would shop around, $2500 sounds really really inflated.

Seeing an optometrist shouldn't cost more than $50-60 tops, and every other year is what most I have gone too recommend. I go every three years because there just isn't enough change in vision to warrant going more.

Second, if you know where to buy glasses you shouldn't pay ANYWHERE near $200+ for good glasses/frames.  Costco for example, sells top name frames for $30-50 range, lenses start at $9.99, and go up to the top end polycarbonate scratch free for $19.99 (yes, thats both).  So figure a fantastic pair of glasses at Costco will set you back $50-70 max.  I know, I bought a new pair there last month, and my son got his there last week.  Even the best Armani frames they carried were $69.99...

Realistically;

$50 x 15 = $750.00  (Exams)
$50 x 9 = $450.00 (Glasses)

Total: $1200.00-$1400.00 range should suffice.  About $1000.00 less than you are paying for surgery.  Thats assuming you don't go to DOC for the glasses and get solid gold frames with diamond inlays or something.  $6300????   saywhat



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« Reply #34 on: October 17, 2006, 02:32:06 AM »

KD, I had it done about 4 years ago.  Best $2k I ever spent.

Be prepared for everything to be almost impossible to focus on the day after tomorrow.  Stay home, don't bother going to work.  Don't even really try to watch TV.  Just rest as much as possible.  Your eyes have good vision by that point, but they're still learning to focus on objects.  Thursday AM, you'll love it.
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« Reply #35 on: October 17, 2006, 02:33:34 AM »

Had about five or six people at our office go for it.  Turned out great in every instance, and everyone would do it again.  However, one guy tried to go the bargain route vs the established doctor, and ended up with bad halo problems.  I'm not entirely sure what the resolution was but he got it sorted out after another visit.  The point is, don't be afraid to spend the money to get someone reputable instead of a Dr. Nick type. 

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« Reply #36 on: October 17, 2006, 02:44:03 AM »

$$$$ does not always mean reputable, but I am sure he shopped around and this is a decision he is happy with.  That is what counts.
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« Reply #37 on: October 17, 2006, 02:58:07 AM »

Who knows if you'll see this, but......


My step-brother had his done about 5 years ago in Canada (that's where he lives) and he has absolutly no regrets and no lasting problems (just the halo thing for the first month or so(I don't see the problem. Halo was cool and I liked Halo 2 as well).

My brother had his done in Jersey about 3 years ago and same thing. Halo for a little while then everything was fine. He did say that he also had a "sand in the eyes" feeling for about 2 weeks. This would probably get on my nerves.

I really want it done, but cost is the main reason, the wife is the second. She thinks that they'll shoot my eye out or I'll be blind or something. I was thinking of seeing if they can do one at a time...just in case...

My brother did say that the procedure was quick, but felt weird.
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« Reply #38 on: October 17, 2006, 03:01:07 AM »

GL with that. I hear its the first step in becoming a Borg  Tongue

My dad had it and my wife's dad had it. worked out great for both. I think I heard my wife's dad say that he had some night vision stuff ..the halo effect?..afterwards but nothing serious. Bet not having glasses will make you feel naked for a while.
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« Reply #39 on: October 17, 2006, 03:48:22 AM »

Quote from: Kobra on October 17, 2006, 02:21:00 AM

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on October 16, 2006, 03:47:21 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on October 16, 2006, 03:34:54 PM

If you don't mind me asking, how much does Lasik cost these days?

I have Astigmatism in both eyes, but my vision isn't too terrible (20/70).  My cost out the door with taxes and lifetime warranty (if ever my vision changes, no matter the cause, they'll correct it) was $2500.00 bucks.

Look at it this way -

I'm 30 years old.  You should see an optometrist every year, so, with a life expectancy of say...75 (saying I die young):

100.00 x 45 = $4500.00 bucks
Even if you go every other year, that is $2250.00.  Add in that you will probably have to buy glasses.  That's at least 200 bucks a pop for frames and lenses.  Let's say you buy a pair every 5 years.

9 x 200 = $1800.00

$4500.00 + $1800.00 = $6300.00

I think the cost more than justifies itself.  You just gotta pay for it up front and you save ~66%


Your figures are way off from what I pay, and I wear glasses.  My correction is very very slight, I don't REALLY have to wear them, thus I am not a candidate for surgery - not that I would want it - as I avoid elective surgery.  $2500 sounds really high,  Henry Ford Eye Institute, the states leading eye surgery place in Michigan, charges about $450 per eye. I would shop around, $2500 sounds really really inflated.

Seeing an optometrist shouldn't cost more than $50-60 tops, and every other year is what most I have gone too recommend. I go every three years because there just isn't enough change in vision to warrant going more.

Second, if you know where to buy glasses you shouldn't pay ANYWHERE near $200+ for good glasses/frames.  Costco for example, sells top name frames for $30-50 range, lenses start at $9.99, and go up to the top end polycarbonate scratch free for $19.99 (yes, thats both).  So figure a fantastic pair of glasses at Costco will set you back $50-70 max.  I know, I bought a new pair there last month, and my son got his there last week.  Even the best Armani frames they carried were $69.99...

Realistically;

$50 x 15 = $750.00  (Exams)
$50 x 9 = $450.00 (Glasses)

Total: $1200.00-$1400.00 range should suffice.  About $1000.00 less than you are paying for surgery.  Thats assuming you don't go to DOC for the glasses and get solid gold frames with diamond inlays or something.  $6300????   saywhat





I don't know what shadetree docs you are seeing, but even Walmart charges roughly 100 bucks for a full optometry visit.  As for the surgery cost, it'd be roughly 450 an eye if I didn't have astigmatism in both eyes.  :/  What can ya do?  Glasses on the other hand are something that I use constantly and in a rough fashion.  I have to have sturdy lenses and frames for martial arts, and I have to have good filters for sitting in front of a monitor for roughly 16 hours of every day. (this stuff for the site, plus work)   Your math seems a little off as well, unless you only plan on living 15 years.  Using your figures, $50.00 x 45 years = $2250.00. 
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