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« on: December 27, 2012, 11:51:17 PM »

I got myself a 50" LG Plasma TV (50PA6500) for Christmas. It has a great picture and sound however I was coursed by the sales person that this will be great for gaming.
Now I am watching YouTube comparisons LCD vs Plasma and the term burn-in is constantly coming up against plasma TVs. It's dead even between it been a problem to its a problem of the past from all I have seen so far.
Can anyone with knowledge of these types of TV's clarify if a gaming run 8-12hr cause burning in on my new TV?
Or if burn-in is still a problem on plasma TV's?
I can see games like GTA that have that constant map and so on been an issue.
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« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2012, 12:06:27 AM »

I have a 50" LG plasma TV in the media room and right now my son is playing XBOX like crazy.  He spends a ton of time up there playing video games and when I kick him out I play games some times.  It works great.
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« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2012, 01:28:38 AM »

No issues with burn-in. The closest you'll see is after watching a letterbox movie is there's a temporary ghost image where the box was which is visible on a fully black screen. It goes away after a few minutes of regular full-screen viewing or just turning off the set and leaving it.

That said I was careful during the first week of viewing. I would change the display from Vivid to something else. Find out what some reccomended callibrated picture settings are for your make/model. It should help improve picture quality better than the default settings. Check some AV forums and see if anyone has posted some settings for the TV there - The AVS Forums are usually a good place to check. After that first week with the TV I didn't give burn in another thought. I have a plasma that's several years old and I think burn in was basically a non-issue then so should still be fine but I'd play it safe for that first week to err on the side of caution.

8-12hrs of gaming though. Wow!
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« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2012, 01:46:15 AM »

I can't even find a plasma tv around here; they're all LEDs now.
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« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2012, 03:06:57 AM »

I think these days Image Retention (which is temporary) is more likely than actual burn in. As long as you take the set out of the default "Vivid" mode (make sure your contrast and brightness aren't set way high - better yet calibrate it properly with a DVD or Blu-ray made for such purpose - and you'll be fine). I only buy plasmas because they frankly look better. I would always take the cheapest plasmas over the best LEDs or LCDs, but that's a personal preference.
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« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2012, 03:20:13 AM »

I've got a 4 year old Panasonic 50" plasma which does exhibit some temporary image retention from time to time, but nothing permanent.
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« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2012, 04:21:35 AM »

Thanks guys.
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8-12hrs of gaming though. Wow!
I have 3 gamer's beside my self at the house I figure they rotate 2-3 hours each.
I can only do that on my PC Civilization or Anno 2070  icon_lol
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I'd play it safe for that first week to err on the side of caution.
So I should avoid letter box programming for the first week or so and then I should be fine?

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better yet calibrate it properly with a DVD or Blu-ray made for such purpose - and you'll be fine).
I will have to look for this, the sales person made it sound like it can only be professionally done and will take 3 hours to get it right.

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I can't even find a plasma tv around here; they're all LEDs now.
I was drawn to the 720p plasmas that was between all to the 1080p LED\LCD TV's because they just showed a better picture.
My stubbornness to purchase 720 the sale guy was able to find me a 1080 for under $600. signed sealed delivered. 
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« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2012, 05:06:56 AM »

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I'd play it safe for that first week to err on the side of caution.
So I should avoid letter box programming for the first week or so and then I should be fine?

The letter box thing I was refering to is what JCC refered to as temporary image retention which is no big deal. Not the same as burn-in.

Burn-in occurs when a static image is on the screen for hours on end. So with games you usually have a static UI/HUD so there is concern is there. I'm sure its not a big deal anymore but if I was to get a new plasma I'd still play it safe and limit my gaming hours and just watch normal tv content/movies on it.

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better yet calibrate it properly with a DVD or Blu-ray made for such purpose - and you'll be fine).
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I will have to look for this, the sales person made it sound like it can only be professionally done and will take 3 hours to get it right.

Check the forums too and see if others have posted their callibrations for your tv make/model. I went this route with my TV and after trying a few callibrations I found some I was happy with the results.
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« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2012, 05:15:18 AM »

If you want the super-duper videophile calibration, then yeah, you can pay someone $100+ to do a professional calibration.

But you can drop a few dollars on something like this:

http://www.amazon.com/Digital-Video-Essentials-Optimize-Entertainment/dp/B00005PJ70/

...that will get you 95% of the way there.
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« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2012, 05:34:10 AM »

I have been worried of this too, but I seem to use the tv for a multitude of things. So it's alot of different images. A little 4:3, alot of games, alot of 1080p 16:9 Netflix. Never something for 12 hrs of he same image. I'm getting less concerned of this as time goes on. Btw, this 1080p 120hz 47 inch slim lg is treating me great so far! Yes that was a shout out to my tv..
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« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2012, 07:47:11 AM »

You do get burn-in on newer plasma screens, but it's much less of a problem than it used to be. Most of the time it will be temporary, but it's possible to get permanent burn-in. This shouldn't be a problem at all for normal TV viewing, but when playing games you've often got static elements on the screen that can cause problems.

I was extra careful with gaming on my plasma for the first few months after I bought it. During the first few days of heavy use I avoided games with a static UI, and for the time after I always turned off the TV when I took a break.

A plasma screen needs some time (a few hundred hours, I believe) before it establishes itself at the level of performance it will stay on for most of its lifespan. In the early days the picture will be brighter, you might notice artifacts when there's a lot of white on the screen, and there's risk of burn-in. Just try to use the screen responsibly, but also use it a lot so that it can get to the level where you want it. Once that is done, everything should be fine.

Also, follow the advice of others above and properly calibrate the set. You do NOT want to use the same kinds of settings they used in the store.

Edit: For the record, plasma screens can indeed be great for gaming these days. Burn-in and slow response times used to make plasmas useless for gaming a few years ago, but this has changed with improved technology.
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« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2012, 09:38:31 AM »

I own two of the most expensive TVs from Samsung and Panasonic. The Samsung is LCD and the Panasonic is a plasma. Without a doubt, I would choose the plasma over the LCD any day of the week. And if you professionally calibrate the difference becomes even more pronounced.My recommendation is that you go to the AVS forums and download the static image slideshow onto a USB drive (not a DVD!!!) and let it loop for about two days when you aren't using the TV. Also keep brightness below 50 for the first week or so. I've never had image retention or burn in. Ever. At least with Panasonic, there are so many technologies built into the system that you need to be trying to destroy the TV before you actually get burn in. And by that I mean brightness to 100, contrast to 100, static screen left on for hours, and auto-dimming turned off.

Uninformed People tend to think the static screens (radar, for example) on games are somehow the kiss of death, but in reality the image is broken up enough by saving screens, loading screens, menu screens etc, to refresh the TV.

But with pixel orbiting (wobbling), intelligent auto dimming, screen savers, pixel wash, etc, you really shouldnt worry.  Enjoy your TV, BUT walk her for the first few days.

edit---yes, minimize letterboxing if you are a perfectionist for the first few days.
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