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« Reply #40 on: November 03, 2004, 07:52:37 PM »

Looks like the American people have spoken clearly.  President Bush won both the popular and electoral vote, the GOP solidified control of both houses of congress as well.  That looks like a mandate to me.  

Personally, I think it's for the best.  I don't think the victory had much to do with religion but rather being clear in articulating the candidates' individual visions.  The Kerry camp just didn't have a strong enough platform.  That said, however, Kerry was very gracious in his concession speech and he deserves credit for that.  Putting the country through another legal nightmare like four years ago would have served no one and changed nothing.
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« Reply #41 on: November 03, 2004, 08:03:32 PM »

Morlac: there is no possibly way you could rationally think I was insulting you by saying you were ignorant of the history. You understand that I was obviously not calling YOU ignorant right? I didn't say, Morlac, you are ignorant, I said you are ignorant of the history. Being ignorant of something means you simply do not have all the facts, period. It doesn't mean you are stupid or willfully uninformed.

This incredibly thin skin reaction to every word or comment that isn't coated in sugar is starting to get really tiring.

Maybe this will help: there are many subjects that I, Rage, am woefully ignorant about, yet I remain an intelligent, well-informed person, as do you Morlac.

Now, please come back and lets chat about the issues.
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« Reply #42 on: November 03, 2004, 08:04:21 PM »

Yes....props to Kerry for accepting defeat as graciously as he did.  He probably would have done better if he focused on what his actual "plans" were.  He never did really tell us other than to say "I have a plan".
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« Reply #43 on: November 03, 2004, 08:13:07 PM »

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Anyone who thinks that the founding fathers "Christianity" is what ours is today is ignorant of the history. Go find a textbook and read up on Naturalism and the Founding Fathers.


And I suggest you go find one that was written sometime before 1970, before secular humanism could get its claws into the classroom.  Many of the founding fathers were indeed Christian, and most, if not all, at the very least believed in a Creator.

And seriously, all of these nonsense comments about a "theocracy" is nothing but out of control hyperbole.  Go check out some *real* theocracies... America is not, nor will it be anytime in the near future, a "theocracy" by any stretch of the imagination.  I'm a conservative Christian, and *I* don't want the USA to be a theocracy.  If I thought Bush wanted it or was capable of it, I wouldn't have voted for him.  But such a notion is so far outside of reality, it's laughable.

Besides,  If you have a problem with Bush being a Christian, I guess you have a problem with nearly every president we've ever had...
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« Reply #44 on: November 03, 2004, 08:20:48 PM »

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Anyone who thinks that the founding fathers "Christianity" is what ours is today is ignorant of the history. Go find a textbook and read up on Naturalism and the Founding Fathers.


And I suggest you go find one that was written sometime before 1970, before secular humanism could get its claws into the classroom.  Many of the founding fathers were indeed Christian, and most, if not all, at the very least believed in a Creator.

And seriously, all of these nonsense comments about a "theocracy" is nothing but out of control hyperbole.  Go check out some *real* theocracies... America is not, nor will it be anytime in the near future, a "theocracy" by any stretch of the imagination.  I'm a conservative Christian, and *I* don't want the USA to be a theocracy.  If I thought Bush wanted it or was capable of it, I wouldn't have voted for him.  But such a notion is so far outside of reality, it's laughable.

Besides,  If you have a problem with Bush being a Christian, I guess you have a problem with nearly every president we've ever had...


I did not say for one second they weren't "Christian", they simply were not "Christian" in the same sense of the word today. And yes, thanks, I have read history written before 1970-but presumably that degree in American History just went to waste.

I am not trying to downplay the role of Christianity in the foundation of the  United States or its importance to the founding fathers-but the assumption that it mirrors the Christianity of today and justifies a Christian nation is just...grossly misinformed-although the argument can certainly be made that the Natrual God proponents in the late 18th century were in the minority-possibly so-but their influence on the Constitution was immense.
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« Reply #45 on: November 03, 2004, 08:21:49 PM »

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Anyone who thinks that the founding fathers "Christianity" is what ours is today is ignorant of the history. Go find a textbook and read up on Naturalism and the Founding Fathers.


And I suggest you go find one that was written sometime before 1970, before secular humanism could get its claws into the classroom.  Many of the founding fathers were indeed Christian, and most, if not all, at the very least believed in a Creator.

And seriously, all of these nonsense comments about a "theocracy" is nothing but out of control hyperbole.  Go check out some *real* theocracies... America is not, nor will it be anytime in the near future, a "theocracy" by any stretch of the imagination.  I'm a conservative Christian, and *I* don't want the USA to be a theocracy.  If I thought Bush wanted it or was capable of it, I wouldn't have voted for him.  But such a notion is so far outside of reality, it's laughable.

Besides,  If you have a problem with Bush being a Christian, I guess you have a problem with nearly every president we've ever had...


I don't have a problem with anyone's religion. I do how ever have issues with presidents who make decisions based on their religious belief instead of logic.  By allowing your religion to guide you, you are giving up free will and throught, because you are no longer making the decisions that affect your life. The problem is, the president's thoughts affect more than just his life, they affect the whole world.
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« Reply #46 on: November 03, 2004, 08:25:32 PM »

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And seriously, all of these nonsense comments about a "theocracy" is nothing but out of control hyperbole.  Go check out some *real* theocracies... America is not, nor will it be anytime in the near future, a "theocracy" by any stretch of the imagination.  I'm a conservative Christian, and *I* don't want the USA to be a theocracy.  If I thought Bush wanted it or was capable of it, I wouldn't have voted for him.  But such a notion is so far outside of reality, it's laughable.

You know... I realize we're not to the level of Iran, but can you seriously tell me anyone could be elected to any political position in this country if they ran as an atheist?

That's the first big step...
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« Reply #47 on: November 03, 2004, 08:28:38 PM »

Obviously, no one here who supported Kerry did him the service of listening to his speech, or heeding his words if you did. I got news...Bush's policies aren't bringing the US down, the election isn't bringing the US down, nothing, not even the mud-flinging fantasies about the candidates, is bringing down the US. You know what will eventually lead to the US being weakened?

   You...you and the continuation of shamefully venomous political "discussion" like this.

   Kerry, even in defeat, called for the US to stand united. You know why? Because people are too damn intolerant and stupid to realize that this is part of the democratic process and -- oh my god! -- there are more important things. I truly miss the "United we stand" mentality of post-9/11. If Bush and Kerry, the two REASONS for this split opposition, can be civil, gracious, and call for one America again, why the hell can't all you?

   As for all these amazing predictions for the future, anyone here who has held a high-level political position abroad and domestic, raise your hand. Other than that, all you have is abstract information by biased media to go on. None of us know crap about what will happen. It just suits your purpose to be bleak, right?
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« Reply #48 on: November 03, 2004, 08:33:11 PM »

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Well America, I hope you are happy. The next four years are going to be some of the worst this country has ever experienced and we have nobody to blame but ourselves. All you Generation X'ers that didn't care enough to vote...thanks a ton. You cost us this election.

Say goodbye to Roe Vs. Wade and hello to Patriot Act II, the invasion of Iran, the draft, a huge deficit, health care costs that will balloon out of control and God knows what else.

It's a sad, sad day for America.  :cry:


I for one am absolutely thrilled with the results of last night's election and yes, I am happy - Roe v. Wade will not be overturned - there will never be a draft -ever (that was propaganda by the Kerry camp) and I believe in most everything else Bush does.  I do not believe in banning gay marriages, I just think they should be civil unions and stem cell research is fine by me.  However, besides a few things I think Bush is a strong leader, a strong man, and very good for the USA.

So Yeah for Bush!   biggrin
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« Reply #49 on: November 03, 2004, 08:39:17 PM »

Next four years some of the worst...that cracks me up. Once someone finds out how to raise the dead (ghosts at least...zombies are just creepy), we'll all sit down with some slaves, Civil War soldiers, Depression workers, women working in munitions factories during WW2, Vietnam vets, and we'll all swap stories and see who had it the worst.

   Anyone who thinks we have it rough in this day and age...
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« Reply #50 on: November 03, 2004, 08:43:43 PM »

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   As for all these amazing predictions for the future, anyone here who has held a high-level political position abroad and domestic, raise your hand. Other than that, all you have is abstract information by biased media to go on. None of us know crap about what will happen. It just suits your purpose to be bleak, right?


Although I'm over dramatic, I can say logically, I think Bush is a bad president. I base this off his handling of the Iraqi war. Throwing aside the bad intelligence aspect and the whole WMD bullshit (Saddam was an asshat anyway), as a Commander and Chief, I call foul on him.

Civilians thinking they can outthink the Military advisors when in comes to war is god damn stupid. Bush and his whole Cabinet who planned this war should be found negligent and be punished accordingly. Sending soldiers off to war unprepared and understocked is the worst thing you can do, because the soldiers will feel their leaders failed them.

Thats my big beef with him.
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« Reply #51 on: November 03, 2004, 08:44:09 PM »

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Yes....props to Kerry for accepting defeat as graciously as he did.  He probably would have done better if he focused on what his actual "plans" were.  He never did really tell us other than to say "I have a plan".


Exactly

And, his supporters spent more time flaming Bush than campaigning for Kerry.  That strategy backfired.

Now instead of bashing, we need to come together as a Nation and support our President.  We can still voice our opinion in helping to guide his future decisions.  All is not lost.
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« Reply #52 on: November 03, 2004, 08:45:17 PM »

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Next four years some of the worst...that cracks me up. Once someone finds out how to raise the dead (ghosts at least...zombies are just creepy),


Freaking sweet. Zombies ROCK!

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« Reply #53 on: November 03, 2004, 08:50:11 PM »

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Obviously, no one here who supported Kerry did him the service of listening to his speech, or heeding his words if you did. I got news...Bush's policies aren't bringing the US down, the election isn't bringing the US down, nothing, not even the mud-flinging fantasies about the candidates, is bringing down the US. You know what will eventually lead to the US being weakened?

   You...you and the continuation of shamefully venomous political "discussion" like this.

   Kerry, even in defeat, called for the US to stand united. You know why? Because people are too damn intolerant and stupid to realize that this is part of the democratic process and -- oh my god! -- there are more important things. I truly miss the "United we stand" mentality of post-9/11. If Bush and Kerry, the two REASONS for this split opposition, can be civil, gracious, and call for one America again, why the hell can't all you?

   As for all these amazing predictions for the future, anyone here who has held a high-level political position abroad and domestic, raise your hand. Other than that, all you have is abstract information by biased media to go on. None of us know crap about what will happen. It just suits your purpose to be bleak, right?


Ah yes, "united we stand", but as long as you are heterosexual, attend church, support the murder of thousands upon thousands of innocent lives who had absolutely NOTHING NOTHING to do with 9/11.

We bleeding heart liberals aren't passing the laws to keep people from doing things that hurt no one.  We aren't the one forcing the nation to bow down to our morals, heh, most of us don't have any, but that's beside the point.  In order to stand united, we must bow down to the great white god of washington.  Fuck that.  I'm too libertarian for that nonsense.  Live and let live, but if they step on your toes too many times  . . .
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« Reply #54 on: November 03, 2004, 09:02:15 PM »

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I think a great number of people really believe Bush's policies will have long term negative effects on our country.


The votes show that a GREATER number of people don't agree. :wink:


I was responding to a post about comments in this thread.  Obviously that doesn't reflect the view point of the majority of people who voted. However I believe it does acurately reflect the the thoughts of many of the people posting - in this thread.
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« Reply #55 on: November 03, 2004, 09:03:34 PM »

The Libertarian party is pretty much irrelevent.   Tongue
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« Reply #56 on: November 03, 2004, 09:07:34 PM »

Who said standing united meant standing under Bush? I'd be giving this same speech if Kerry won and Bush supporters were acting like this.

   My definition of the standing united thing...recognize that this is just one of many differentiating opinions. The guy with the Bush sign across from you...you have more in common with him than you do not in common. Life on the personal level is much more important than a scale like the presidency. That's why I don't card for religion or political party or any of that crap when I make friends. Hell, my best friend is a die-hard Bush hater and we get along fine. Why? Two reasons: A.) political discussion takes thirty seconds of my day. The other 23.9 hours are life. And B.) We know that there are VERY FEW black and white Republicans and Democrats. I'm a republican, but I'm against the gay marriage ban and I'm an agnostic. He's a democrat pro-life. The media has split us into "Republicans/Democrats" but it's just not that way. So united we stand means differ in politics, united as Americans. Kerry and Bush both have different views, but they're in agreement in a unified and strong America.

   Here I went and broke my promise to myself to quit politics. Too stressful. Back to my herbal tea... No more responses from me, so flame/agree/whatever but please think about it.
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« Reply #57 on: November 03, 2004, 09:08:03 PM »

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What scares me most is that the Bush administration now believes they have a license to kill in the middle east, and if you don't think Iran is next, you're not paying attention.

What this is going to mean is less security for the U.S., not more. When we invade our second middle eastern country, unprovoked, and probably again without U.N. sanctioning, you can bet all hell will break loose, not just there, but here on U.S. soil. The U.S. under Bush, to me, is my worst nightmare ... a hostile aggressor. Something I'm not sure we've ever been before. We've been a defender many times, but invading countries unprovoked is shameful. We're going to greatly intensify Arabic hatred towards us, same as our wrath would be incurred if they were to invade us.

I'm not saying these countries are full of saints, most of them are dispicable dictatorships, but I don't think it's America's place to police them, esp without UN sanction.

A sad day, indeed.


Ask Native Americans if we 've ever been hostile aggressors.  Ever since the cold war we've had a 'first strike" mentality...for right or wrong.


Indeed. But the nation hadn't formed then, into what it is today. Even in the late 17 and 1800's, America had some things to be shameful of, most of all slavery.  By us never being hostile aggressors, I was referring to the modern age, I guess I should've clarified that. Since the U.S. has formed and maintained a military, I don't know of any events of us going headlong into another country, unprovoked, and taking over.  That is, until GWB.  He did this without UN approval, and on false information.

He's made it pretty clear in interviews, that Iran must cease & desist their nuclear advancements, and Iran has made it pretty clear that the U.S. can shove their threats up their ass. So.... I see a conflict there.
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« Reply #58 on: November 03, 2004, 09:10:26 PM »

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Obviously, no one here who supported Kerry did him the service of listening to his speech, or heeding his words if you did. I got news...Bush's policies aren't bringing the US down, the election isn't bringing the US down, nothing, not even the mud-flinging fantasies about the candidates, is bringing down the US. You know what will eventually lead to the US being weakened?

   You...you and the continuation of shamefully venomous political "discussion" like this.

   Kerry, even in defeat, called for the US to stand united. You know why? Because people are too damn intolerant and stupid to realize that this is part of the democratic process and -- oh my god! -- there are more important things. I truly miss the "United we stand" mentality of post-9/11. If Bush and Kerry, the two REASONS for this split opposition, can be civil, gracious, and call for one America again, why the hell can't all you?

   As for all these amazing predictions for the future, anyone here who has held a high-level political position abroad and domestic, raise your hand. Other than that, all you have is abstract information by biased media to go on. None of us know crap about what will happen. It just suits your purpose to be bleak, right?


Ah yes, "united we stand", but as long as you are heterosexual, attend church, support the murder of thousands upon thousands of innocent lives who had absolutely NOTHING NOTHING to do with 9/11.

We bleeding heart liberals aren't passing the laws to keep people from doing things that hurt no one.  We aren't the one forcing the nation to bow down to our morals, heh, most of us don't have any, but that's beside the point.  In order to stand united, we must bow down to the great white god of washington.  Fuck that.  I'm too libertarian for that nonsense.  Live and let live, but if they step on your toes too many times  . . .


I would have to agree entirely... (well, maybe not the libertarian part heh)

oh and Bush will never be able to unite America (nor will anyone). The religious right wants to force their religious views on all of America and socially moderate people don't like that at all (although some of them more vote based on other things). If Bush caters to moderates, he loses his main base. If bush caters to his main, religious right base, he loses the moderate social vote. If he goes somewhere in the middle, the religious right says he isn't religious enough, so he loses some of them (well, maybe since they have no other fanatics to vote for) and social moderates get a little agitated.
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« Reply #59 on: November 03, 2004, 09:26:30 PM »

I'll take this opportunity to say the USA is ass fucked--because in two years with the Patriot Act Filtering Servers running strong, chances are the mention of sodomy would result in my incarceration.

Seriously, no kidding, the second I have the means to leave this piece of shit country, I will.  Bush didn't steal the election this time, and that makes me sick--there really are enough nutjobs in this country to re-elect him, and that's why I'm getting the fuck out.

I'll stay for a Civil War, though.  Ironically, this is the first time I've felt willing to give my life for my country.
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« Reply #60 on: November 03, 2004, 09:32:38 PM »

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I see very few BUSH supporters ever chime in..

When I DO speak to people who voted for Bush, they always say the same thing.. I feel safer with Bush in office.

What I think is that he has bred more terrorists than he has killed. Which is rather scary.

Time will tell. Im no bleeding heart liberal, but DAMN what did Iraq have to do with terrorism? Attack SYRIA makes more sense but IRAQ?

Never mind, Ill go find my meds.


We're mostly sick of just being flamed so we don't bother to grace you with our opinions anymore.  I step in the off-topic forums every once in a while like election and read these threads of hatred to remind me why i quit posting my opinion online.
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« Reply #61 on: November 03, 2004, 09:46:42 PM »

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I'll take this opportunity to say the USA is ass fucked--because in two years with the Patriot Act Filtering Servers running strong, chances are the mention of sodomy would result in my incarceration.

Seriously, no kidding, the second I have the means to leave this piece of shit country, I will.  Bush didn't steal the election this time, and that makes me sick--there really are enough nutjobs in this country to re-elect him, and that's why I'm getting the fuck out.

I'll stay for a Civil War, though.  Ironically, this is the first time I've felt willing to give my life for my country.


LE, bravo!  Not for the leaving the country part, my wife and I do contemplate this though, but for the civil war part.  Sadly, and very sadly, I personally feel that within my lifetime I will see my countrymen fight one another.  A part of me wants this.  The country is philosophically split and getting worse;  the country is too damn big to truly govern effectively; the country is too damn big to have a true voice in that government.  

Is this nihilistic of me?  Most likely.  But sometimes the truth sucks.
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« Reply #62 on: November 03, 2004, 10:01:15 PM »

I agree with the majority here, this is bad news for all Americans.

We were lied to and used, and didn't even care. A terrible message is being sent to politicians, and the world, with the outcome of this election.

I'm 33 years old and this year was the first time I have ever voted. Not something I am proud of, but I could no longer stand by and watch our country devolve into a narrowminded, paranoid police state run by a spoon fed frat boy and his daddies cronies.

Makes me fucking sick.
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« Reply #63 on: November 03, 2004, 10:26:41 PM »

here's to 4 years of prosperity.  good or bad, either candidate would have been facing a difficult situation with all the issues we have today.  best of luck george, your'e gonna need it.

i'm more concerned about having a former AG in the governor's seat.   at least the slot machine issue fell through.  if i wanted all those damn things around, i'd move to nevada.
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« Reply #64 on: November 03, 2004, 10:33:15 PM »

I was pleasantly surprised by the outcome today.  I'd fully expected Kerry to win.   If you're gonna call Bush supporters "nutjobs", then consider me one.   biggrin
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« Reply #65 on: November 03, 2004, 10:38:25 PM »

The petty insults do nothing but make you all look like whiney babies.
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« Reply #66 on: November 03, 2004, 10:40:56 PM »

Way to go, W! biggrin

The only thing better than W's decisive victory is the angst and depression it is causing in American liberals, Euopean leftists, and of course your friendly neighborhood terrorists.

As I believe someone already mentioned: Scoreboard, suckers!

Damn, this feels good today. smile
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« Reply #67 on: November 03, 2004, 10:51:07 PM »

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The petty insults do nothing but make you all look like whiney babies.


Yeah, and that post makes you sound sooo much more mature than everyone else.  Give us all a break from your moronic comments, please.

The only good thing about Bush winning is that he can't ever be president again.  I try to look on the bright side of every outcome.  smile

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« Reply #68 on: November 03, 2004, 10:58:02 PM »

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Way to go, W! biggrin

The only thing better than W's decisive victory is the angst and depression it is causing in American liberals, Euopean leftists, and of course your friendly neighborhood terrorists.

As I believe someone already mentioned: Scoreboard, suckers!

Damn, this feels good today. smile
At least your bimbo chimp president lets us all own guns.

Expect to be sucking on the end of a rifle if your idiot boy starts fucking up this country any more.

Unless Bush really turns things around and brainwashes people in the "other direction," the only way to uproot the sheer ignorance in this country is through civil war with the intended outcome of the genocide of the Conservative Christians and the Religious Right.

Right now, violence looks like the answer.  Hopefully Bush's religious bent was all a vote collection gag, but if it's not, I have absolutely no qualms in risking my life to overthrow this government or cede from the union.

The founding fathers are spinning in their graves.

Heil Herr Bush.
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« Reply #69 on: November 03, 2004, 11:05:15 PM »

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Way to go, W! biggrin

The only thing better than W's decisive victory is the angst and depression it is causing in American liberals, Euopean leftists, and of course your friendly neighborhood terrorists.

As I believe someone already mentioned: Scoreboard, suckers!

Damn, this feels good today. smile
At least your bimbo chimp president lets us all own guns.

Expect to be sucking on the end of a rifle if your idiot boy starts fucking up this country any more.

Unless Bush really turns things around and brainwashes people in the "other direction," the only way to uproot the sheer ignorance in this country is through civil war with the intended outcome of the genocide of the Conservative Christians and the Religious Right.

Right now, violence looks like the answer.  Hopefully Bush's religious bent was all a vote collection gag, but if it's not, I have absolutely no qualms in risking my life to overthrow this government or cede from the union.

The founding fathers are spinning in their graves.

Heil Herr Bush.


then Lord  in another thread(gay marriage ban in 11 states):

Just as a side-note:

People like E_L_K are why R&P discussions should be banned on this forum. Inevitably, internet R&P discussion attracts the scum of the earth who want to post violently unpopular ideas that would have them beaten to a pulp in public. Scared and huddling in their parents' basement, they type their racist, bigoted fears out onto the computer screen in a hope of getting some kind of sick gratification when they have to defend their fetid, broken ideas.

There's a Klan out there for people like you, Koala. Of course, I wouldn't be surprised if you weren't already a part of it.


Contradict much?
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« Reply #70 on: November 03, 2004, 11:12:46 PM »

What did Koala write?
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« Reply #71 on: November 03, 2004, 11:14:32 PM »

Read the gay marriag ban thread.
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« Reply #72 on: November 03, 2004, 11:16:31 PM »

Oh.....sorry.  I was looking in this thread and didn't see anything bad by him.

Edit:  I still don't see Koala saying anything inflammatory.  He is being rather civil and stating his views.  You may not agree with them, but they hardly approach the "bigot" level.
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« Reply #73 on: November 03, 2004, 11:19:38 PM »

First & only warning before lock. I oppose no one speaking their mind, opinions, etc, but some of the comments I'm seeing here are over the line.

"whiney babies" & "your moronic comments" are the type of thing I'm talking about. This is the reason I don't see P&R lasting too long around here. We tend to get too heated, and take things too personal.

Seriously though, next insult =  
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« Reply #74 on: November 03, 2004, 11:24:56 PM »

Guys (and presumably gals) let's tone the rhetoric down.  Religion and Politics discussions here at Console Gold are currently on a provisional basis.  Many of us lobbied for the ability to discuss R&P here and were glad when Knightshade Dragon & co. allowed this to happen.

I know everyone has strong feelings about a very polarizing election so temperatures are running high now.  That said, we either talk about things passionately and respectfully here or not at all.  No more calls for genocide of Christians.  No more insults.

I don't want to lock the thread and I don't want to lose the ability to discuss R&P here.  We've been given some rope to discuss things here.  Let's not hang ourselves with it.

As it says on the main forum page under Off-Topic: Talk about anything you want, just don't be an ass about it.
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« Reply #75 on: November 03, 2004, 11:26:14 PM »

Oh and Jeff Jones sucks!   biggrin

He always seems to post these things before me and says what needs to be said better than me.  Waaah!

What he said.
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« Reply #76 on: November 03, 2004, 11:26:21 PM »

I thought Kerry's concession speach was all class.

IBTL,BTW  thumbsup
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« Reply #77 on: November 03, 2004, 11:27:30 PM »

Quote from: "Fuzzballx"
Quote from: "HankRaptor"
I see very few BUSH supporters ever chime in..

When I DO speak to people who voted for Bush, they always say the same thing.. I feel safer with Bush in office.

What I think is that he has bred more terrorists than he has killed. Which is rather scary.

Time will tell. Im no bleeding heart liberal, but DAMN what did Iraq have to do with terrorism? Attack SYRIA makes more sense but IRAQ?

Never mind, Ill go find my meds.


We're mostly sick of just being flamed so we don't bother to grace you with our opinions anymore.  I step in the off-topic forums every once in a while like election and read these threads of hatred to remind me why i quit posting my opinion online.


I agree...I tend to stay away from these firecrackers....i don't want to create any distrust/hate/etc from anyone on this board.  I respect a lot people's opinion and hope that they respect mine.  But it seems that sometimes posting an opinion tends to generate into an overall brawl instead of a meaningful discussion.   No matter what your partisan thoughts are...its OK, that's why we are the Americans.  I'm glad we can have free discussions amongst Americans on anything - without resorting to violence or "name-calling".

With that being said...This is a gaming site and forum board..and we all agree on gaming!  I think -LE- (or someone on GG) used to have a sig that said "Game On!" smile
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« Reply #78 on: November 03, 2004, 11:30:32 PM »

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Oh and Jeff Jones sucks!   biggrin

He always seems to post these things before me and says what needs to be said better than me.  Waaah!

What he said.


Not to mention he also used visual aids.  

Back to moderating school for you im afraid.  Tongue
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« Reply #79 on: November 03, 2004, 11:33:02 PM »

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Oh and Jeff Jones sucks!   biggrin

He always seems to post these things before me and says what needs to be said better than me.  Waaah!

What he said.


Not to mention he also used visual aids.  

Back to moderating school for you im afraid.  Tongue
:oops:  crybaby
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