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« on: August 29, 2014, 03:28:37 PM »

Last night my boys (6 and Cool started talking about playing Minecraft online on the ipads.  I thought they were just talking about a world they created but apparently the neighbor boy had given them the IP of a server.  So I now have to think about what to tell them about playing online - I was expecting to wait a few more years....

Anyway what would you tell kids that age?  Since they are in a game I think they can only chat but I also think they might be naive enough to say just about anything.....

I found this on line  http://www.safekids.com/kids-rules-for-online-safety/  but wondered if others had experience talking to their young ones about the wider world of the Internet.


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« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2014, 03:54:26 PM »

My kids are a few years behind yours, so I'll be interested to hear what people have to say.  I think you're already ahead of the game just knowing that you do need to take some precautions this early on.  A not-so-computer-savvy friend of mine had her 5 and 7-year-olds freely using youtube.  "They're just watching videos about this video game they like!"  She had no idea how many of the 'related video' links on the side of the screen were already venturing into inappropriate territory.
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« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2014, 12:41:14 AM »

Quote from: wonderpug on August 29, 2014, 03:54:26 PM

My kids are a few years behind yours, so I'll be interested to hear what people have to say.  I think you're already ahead of the game just knowing that you do need to take some precautions this early on.  A not-so-computer-savvy friend of mine had her 5 and 7-year-olds freely using youtube.  "They're just watching videos about this video game they like!"  She had no idea how many of the 'related video' links on the side of the screen were already venturing into inappropriate territory.

Man, I'm interested to hear others thoughts on this too.  Mine are 7 and 4, and I don't want to be a prude, but I'd be hard pressed to let them play an online game at this age.  Maybe this is because all crap i heard playing MW2 and everything else. 
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« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2014, 02:22:16 AM »

Quote from: Eco-Logic on August 30, 2014, 12:41:14 AM

Quote from: wonderpug on August 29, 2014, 03:54:26 PM

My kids are a few years behind yours, so I'll be interested to hear what people have to say.  I think you're already ahead of the game just knowing that you do need to take some precautions this early on.  A not-so-computer-savvy friend of mine had her 5 and 7-year-olds freely using youtube.  "They're just watching videos about this video game they like!"  She had no idea how many of the 'related video' links on the side of the screen were already venturing into inappropriate territory.

Man, I'm interested to hear others thoughts on this too.  Mine are 7 and 4, and I don't want to be a prude, but I'd be hard pressed to let them play an online game at this age.  Maybe this is because all crap i heard playing MW2 and everything else. 

The online games where you can only talk in emotes are pretty safe as far as player interactions go.
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« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2014, 10:23:45 AM »

A few key points and you should be fine

Be courteous to others, ignore most of what they say, no personal info, trust nobody, then reiterate ignoring people and that while it doesn't matter if they insult you, just ignore them.

I was the one 'training' my nephew on internet gaming and he was jumping in the deep end on xbox live cod at the time.  Worked out fine and he learned early to just laugh and ignore the trolls without joining in.  He was 10-11 at the time though, so a bit older.  He also grew up in a household with freely spoken curse words by his mom so I wasn't worried about exposure to language, just his response to it.

I think as long as you are able to shape the experience you'll be fine, just don't worry too much since the internet is the internet.  Kids these days will grow up with a different overall exposure to some things as a result anyway
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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2014, 01:41:55 PM »

We severely limit what they can access to a few sites that we've approved (pop tropica, webkinz world or whatever it's called, and a few other sites like those which only allow text based chatting character to character).  They do get to check the weather and search on topics for school or look up words and what not.

They NEVER browse into the wild. We do let them hit up youtube for videos about kid stuff and so far they haven't stumbled across anything terrible.

We do let them browse library sites and app stores and things.  We've had discussions in general that there are things they are not old enough to know about and things they should not see at this age. They take us at our word and haven't been pressing the boundaries yet.
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« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2014, 03:25:19 PM »

Quote from: wonderpug on August 29, 2014, 03:54:26 PM

My kids are a few years behind yours, so I'll be interested to hear what people have to say.  I think you're already ahead of the game just knowing that you do need to take some precautions this early on.  A not-so-computer-savvy friend of mine had her 5 and 7-year-olds freely using youtube.  "They're just watching videos about this video game they like!"  She had no idea how many of the 'related video' links on the side of the screen were already venturing into inappropriate territory.

When my son was 8 years old he started watching youtube videos on his ipod touch.  They were all related to minecraft in some way or another, but even then there were adds or related videos that we fairly inappropriate for an 8  year old to see.  We started monitoring his usage alot closer after that, along with talking to him frankly and openly about what content was ok for him to be watching and what content isn't.

When he is playing online games on the Xbox (plants vs zombies garden warfare is his favorite), he just doesn't wear the headset, and I have all chat muted.  He knows he is playing with other actual people, but he doesn't get to verbal interaction from it.  I am sure there have been many times when players read my profile, 40year old lifetime gamer, and get frustrated watching me play like an 8 year old with attention disorder.
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« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2014, 09:20:10 AM »

My boys are 4 and7 and love gaming on the iPad as well as the pc but havent shown any interest in the online portion of gaming.

However my eldest loves learning and whatever. He is in to he like looking up on youtubs if he can. Like videos of his favourite songs, luckily they are golden oldies atm so nothing inappropriate. Its not going to be an easy thing to monitor as inapproprinate stuff can appear anywhere.

This summer he has really been in to cricket(us brits eh slywink) well he went on to youtube and found a 10 best cricketing moments and said can we see it, sure i said.

All fine until we got to number 4, the match was in Austrlia, the camera man zoomed in to 2 lovely young ladies in the crowd who saw themselves on the big screen and went on to lift there tops up showing everything to everyone.

My boy goes, dad why are they doing that, i really couldnt answer that one and ended up with, they are just being silly, take no notice. He went and told his mum all about these silly ladies.

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« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2014, 03:16:55 PM »

We unexpectedly found ourselves in a similar situation as my dad handed down a laptop to our 9 year old.  I've spent more time cleaning out the extra junk and looking for a good net filter while updating it and getting it secure.  Then, once I get it set up, I'm making an image of the system so the first time the OS blows up, I'll be able to restore it.
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« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2014, 05:46:02 PM »

I guess spending parents' money is separate from online safety, but this still made me think of this thread.  icon_smile

Google to Refund Consumers at Least $19 Million to Settle FTC Complaint It Unlawfully Billed Parents for Children’s Unauthorized In-App Charges
FTC Order Requires Google to Change its Mobile App Billing Practices to Ensure Consumers’ Consent is Obtained Before Charges Levied
FOR RELEASE

http://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/2014/09/google-refund-consumers-least-19-million-settle-ftc-complaint-it?utm_source=govdelivery

I'm an old fart, and so this kind of thing was never an issue when I was growing up in the 1970s. Maybe once or twice I begged my mom or dad to write a small check so I could order something by mail. Such simple times.  icon_smile
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« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2014, 05:49:29 PM »

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