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« on: August 06, 2010, 01:45:12 AM »

I just cancelled Netflix and have 3 movies to watch before I return them...Riddick which I've seen, Indy 4, and Master & Commander. I do plan to watch them all but is Indy fun at all? All I remember is bad reviews. All I want is some fun. I don't want it to ruin the memories of the first 3.
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« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2010, 01:48:38 AM »

NO!!

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« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2010, 01:50:50 AM »

bah   it was good enough.  better than Temple of Doom.  If you watch it to enjoy it instead of rip it you may actually like it
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« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2010, 01:54:52 AM »

Quote from: rshetts2 on August 06, 2010, 01:50:50 AM

bah   it was good enough.  better than Temple of Doom.  If you watch it to enjoy it instead of rip it you may actually like it

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« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2010, 01:59:45 AM »

I thought it was OK.  Not nearly as good as the first three, but it still has its moments.
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« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2010, 02:07:10 AM »

I enjoyed it.  I couldnt get over how old Harrison Ford looked at the beginning of the movie but eventually I got used to it.
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« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2010, 03:14:18 AM »

Quote from: CeeKay on August 06, 2010, 01:54:52 AM

Quote from: rshetts2 on August 06, 2010, 01:50:50 AM

bah   it was good enough.  better than Temple of Doom.  If you watch it to enjoy it instead of rip it you may actually like it

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It was easily the worst movie I've seen in the theaters in years. It has almost no redeeming qualities and will just sour you on the rest of the Indiana Jones movies.
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« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2010, 03:15:35 AM »

Quote from: rshetts2 on August 06, 2010, 01:50:50 AM

bah   it was good enough.  better than Temple of Doom.  If you watch it to enjoy it instead of rip it you may actually like it

It's nowhere near as good as temple of doom. But it's still Indy so it's not completely horrible. Plus I learned that refrigerators work better than fallout shelters.
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« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2010, 03:16:50 AM »

I made it about 1/2 through before I quit watching.

My wife liked it.
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« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2010, 03:18:13 AM »

First half is very excellent. Second half is unbelievably bad.
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« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2010, 03:48:45 AM »

1=best,4=worse

1-Raiders
2-Crusade
3-Doom
4-Kingdom


it was no where near as good as the first 3..but i would say it is watchable,it does have an incredibly great cast,From John Hurt and Cate Blanchett to even the Janitor from Scrubs Tongue


Karen Allen is very great also
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« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2010, 03:56:59 AM »

Quote from: rshetts2 on August 06, 2010, 01:50:50 AM

bah   it was good enough.  better than Temple of Doom.  If you watch it to enjoy it instead of rip it you may actually like it

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« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2010, 04:01:33 AM »

Never understood the hate for the movie. Besides having Shia, who is irritating, I found it an enjoyable popcorn movie. No more or less believable than the other three.
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« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2010, 04:09:23 AM »

Quote from: Andrew Wonser on August 06, 2010, 04:01:33 AM

No more or less believable than the other three.

hmm,i don't even think that was the main problem,sure the indy films have far fetched stuff in it...i think the worse part of the movie was Shia swinging from the vines Tarzan style


there was also the ending
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all of a sudden its a Sci-Fi  icon_confused


as said i think its watchable,but i wouldn't give it more than a 7
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« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2010, 04:20:49 AM »

The way I watched was thinking about, "This is the kind of movie I would have made if I were a 10-year-old." When you take off the adult glasses, it's quite enjoyable.
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« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2010, 04:50:04 AM »

If you can leave your brain in the next county (instead of just at the door), you may enjoy Indy 4. Personally, I think it's like the Star Wars Christmas Special - it's a horror that while is out there, they don't want to admit it actually exists.

Okay, maybe it's not that bad, but...it's by far the worst movie out of the series. I know - go watch it via Rifftrax. Maybe then it'll be worth seeing. biggrin
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« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2010, 05:52:07 AM »

The monkeys...oh god, the monkeys...
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« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2010, 11:13:02 AM »

I thought it was decent. Really the part I expected to hate (Indy and his son) I ended up really enjoying. The only part I didn't like was the ending. I put it about on part with Doom which I never warmed to.
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« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2010, 11:30:10 AM »

Quote from: Eel Snave on August 06, 2010, 04:20:49 AM

The way I watched was thinking about, "This is the kind of movie I would have made if I were a 10-year-old." When you take off the adult glasses, it's quite enjoyable.

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« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2010, 11:31:51 AM »

There is one perfect moment in that film and its after the big ending.  The opening is also kinda fun and I didn't mind the refrigerator (though there were myriad ways that that scene could have worked out better).

The rest of the film is just terrible terrible.  Like Raz said,  the monekys are one of the lowest moments in cinematic history.

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« Reply #20 on: August 06, 2010, 12:32:11 PM »

The jungle chase scene is one of the worst bits of film I've ever seen. The rest was mediocre.
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« Reply #21 on: August 06, 2010, 12:42:32 PM »

Stay away.

It's a movie that starts out fair and a bit goofy.  But about 1/2 way through the film it starts getting bad and keeps getting worse and worse.  By the end you're ready to blow your goddamn head off.
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« Reply #22 on: August 06, 2010, 01:31:36 PM »

As a standalone movie, it's really not bad. As Indiana Jones canon, it's pretty ridiculous. I don't regret seeing it, but it definitely frustrated me considering
The Last Crusade has been one of my favourite films since I was, like, nine, and I watch it at least once a year.

The biggest issue I don't think was the 50s setting, Shia, or the sci-fi plot. It was that the trials the characters endured were so bloody unbelievable--for an Indy film! The original trilogy, while outright fantasy, always felt grounded in the real world. Up until the usually supernatural climax, Indy was a fallible hero in outlandish yet imaginable circumstances. In The Cystal Skull, the most ridiculous events occur that the characters should have no reasonable chance of surviving unscathed. Yet they do... over and over and over again. (Excepting the bad guys, of course, who are conveniently whittled down.)
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« Reply #23 on: August 06, 2010, 01:59:19 PM »

Quote from: Clay on August 06, 2010, 12:32:11 PM

The jungle chase scene is one of the worst bits of film I've ever seen. The rest was mediocre.

That scene made me turn off the movie. It was a horrible piece of dreck. Don't ruin your fond memories.
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« Reply #24 on: August 06, 2010, 02:13:14 PM »

metall -

While I agree with your rankings...

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WHAT!?!?

To me, it looked like she was abducted off the street one morning and an hour later they started filming.
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« Reply #25 on: August 06, 2010, 02:21:22 PM »

Quote from: metallicorphan on August 06, 2010, 04:09:23 AM

there was also the ending
Spoiler for Hiden:
all of a sudden its a Sci-Fi  icon_confused

So the religious endings of #1 and #3 are better? 
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« Reply #26 on: August 06, 2010, 02:33:18 PM »

Quote from: farley2k on August 06, 2010, 02:21:22 PM

Quote from: metallicorphan on August 06, 2010, 04:09:23 AM

there was also the ending
Spoiler for Hiden:
all of a sudden its a Sci-Fi  icon_confused

So the religious endings of #1 and #3 are better? 

Yes.
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« Reply #27 on: August 06, 2010, 02:38:10 PM »

Dae, just watch it.  As it's obvious from everyone's opinion, there isn't a resounding an opinion that's either favorable or otherwise.  Personally, I don't understand all the hate for it, but whatever.
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« Reply #28 on: August 06, 2010, 03:12:44 PM »

Quote from: Ralph-Wiggum on August 06, 2010, 02:33:18 PM

Quote from: farley2k on August 06, 2010, 02:21:22 PM

Quote from: metallicorphan on August 06, 2010, 04:09:23 AM

there was also the ending
Spoiler for Hiden:
all of a sudden its a Sci-Fi  icon_confused

So the religious endings of #1 and #3 are better?  

Yes.

It's kind of the same thing that people really like Uncharted,
Spoiler for Hiden:
would Uncharted be as enjoyable if they went through so many adventures only to find out that aliens caused it all
? A part of it, no matter how small it is, was based in reality whether it is a legend or something. They throw out names that you know/knew/heard of/make any sort of connection with.
Spoiler for Hiden:
Going through indy 4 and then all of a sudden seeing all this alien shit felt like a big "Fuck you" from Spielberg that he just threw out all the great stuff from the previous Indies.

I'm sure Stargate will get thrown as a rebuttal but I find it inherently different than Indiana Jones.

Guess I should spoiler it since the Op hasn't seen it.
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« Reply #29 on: August 06, 2010, 03:30:18 PM »

Quote from: Ralph-Wiggum on August 06, 2010, 02:33:18 PM

Quote from: farley2k on August 06, 2010, 02:21:22 PM

Quote from: metallicorphan on August 06, 2010, 04:09:23 AM

there was also the ending
Spoiler for Hiden:
all of a sudden its a Sci-Fi  icon_confused
So the religious endings of #1 and #3 are better? 
Yes.

Totally, because they're 'believable' in the world of Indy.

4...is not. At all. Same with some of the stuff that Indy survives through in 4 - the older films are just within the realm of plausibility. 4...is also not. It's just outright stupid. Same with some of the stupid ass stuff that's shown in the film...
Spoiler for Hiden:
Like how the gunpowder just magically floats/flies through the air as if guided by magic instead of how it would work due to how cold-hard science governs its use. And don't even get me started on the nuclear-proof fridge.

Indy 4 is an abomination and should be shot. Same with the Star Wars prequels. They have no reason to exist, they do nothing for the characters, and they only show that Lucas needs to stop making movies. And possibly Spielburg as well. Period.
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« Reply #30 on: August 06, 2010, 03:52:39 PM »

Spoiler for Hiden:
I guess to me the idea that God created a box which contains souls of people, or a cup which heals because it contained Christ's blood is just as implausible as a giant space ship buried underground.
 

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« Reply #31 on: August 06, 2010, 03:53:47 PM »

Quote from: farley2k on August 06, 2010, 03:52:39 PM

SPOILERS

you still really dont understand the concept of spoilering a movie, do you? The OP is asking because he hasnt seen the movie
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« Reply #32 on: August 06, 2010, 04:00:33 PM »

I wanted to stab Shia Ledouche more than usual

I think the worst part was how forgettable the whole film was for me. It gave me the same feeling that Phantom Menace did.
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« Reply #33 on: August 06, 2010, 04:03:38 PM »

Quote from: farley2k on August 06, 2010, 03:52:39 PM

SPOILERS

Because as I said - in Indy's universe, religious items that do these kinds of things exist. To suddenly turn it upon its head like Indy 4 does breaks that aspect of it.
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« Reply #34 on: August 06, 2010, 04:05:56 PM »

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spoilers  



Indiana Jones is an achaeologist.  He searches for historical artifacts and enjoys hunting for artifacts based upon popular legends and that have some historical significance.  The Holy Grail and The Ark of the Covenant are based upon historical legends and have at least some basis in archaeology.  Edit:  Sorry, missed the spoiler.  
Spoiler for Hiden:
Alien ships buried in the jungle do not.
 
The conclusion in Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of Crap does not.  That I believe is the main discrepancy in the series irritating fans.  
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« Reply #35 on: August 06, 2010, 04:13:54 PM »

I think the biggest problem with the movie is it quickly became an internet meme for forumites to compete with each other over who can come up with the most creative way of saying how absolutely horrid it was... when it really wasn't that horrid.

Was it a great flick? Absolutely not. Was it watchable? Yes. And no the jungle scene isn't anywhere near as bad as people make out. It certainly isn't the highlight, but to call it one of the worst pieces of cinema ever is absurd hyperbole.

I'd say watch it, without great expectations and a healthy suspension of disbelief. You'll probably enjoy it, but you won't get blown away. Of course, if you're given to drama, then you might be better off leaving it so you can avoid telling everyone how it raped your childhood memories  ninja
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« Reply #36 on: August 06, 2010, 04:34:57 PM »

Quote from: Crux on August 06, 2010, 04:13:54 PM

I think the biggest problem with the movie is it quickly became an internet meme for forumites to compete with each other over who can come up with the most creative way of saying how absolutely horrid it was... when it really wasn't that horrid.

Was it a great flick? Absolutely not. Was it watchable? Yes. And no the jungle scene isn't anywhere near as bad as people make out. It certainly isn't the highlight, but to call it one of the worst pieces of cinema ever is absurd hyperbole.

I'd say watch it, without great expectations and a healthy suspension of disbelief. You'll probably enjoy it, but you won't get blown away. Of course, if you're given to drama, then you might be better off leaving it so you can avoid telling everyone how it raped your childhood memories  ninja

This.  +100
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« Reply #37 on: August 06, 2010, 04:44:22 PM »

Quote from: PeteRock on August 06, 2010, 04:05:56 PM

Quote from: farley2k on August 06, 2010, 03:52:39 PM

spoilers  



Indiana Jones is an achaeologist.  He searches for historical artifacts and enjoys hunting for artifacts based upon popular legends and that have some historical significance.  The Holy Grail and The Ark of the Covenant are based upon historical legends and have at least some basis in archaeology.  Edit:  Sorry, missed the spoiler.  
Spoiler for Hiden:
Alien ships buried in the jungle do not.
 
The conclusion in Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of Crap does not.  That I believe is the main discrepancy in the series irritating fans.  

Neither one is remotely true so I find them interchangeable. 
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« Reply #38 on: August 06, 2010, 05:20:31 PM »

Quote from: WorkingMike on August 06, 2010, 04:00:33 PM

I wanted to stab Shia Ledouche more than usual

In his defense, he even said that he felt horrible about ruining the series.

And no, I don't think it was watchable to me. I also didn't think Transformers 2 was watchable either.
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« Reply #39 on: August 06, 2010, 05:28:34 PM »

Quote from: farley2k on August 06, 2010, 02:21:22 PM

Quote from: metallicorphan on August 06, 2010, 04:09:23 AM

there was also the ending
Spoiler for Hiden:
all of a sudden its a Sci-Fi  icon_confused

So the religious endings of #1 and #3 are better? 

well,with the religious endings they did well for what Indiana Jones stood for being an Archaeologist an all...if it was Indiana Mulder then yeah i may of appreciated the end of 4 a lot more Tongue

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While I agree with your rankings...

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Karen Allen is very great also

WHAT!?!?

To me, it looked like she was abducted off the street one morning and an hour later they started filming.


well,that maybe just me then,i have always liked Karen Allen,and thought she hadn't really changed much(apart from age).she played Marion well again i thought,just this time as a mother also
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