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« on: February 15, 2005, 10:52:38 PM »

From this press release
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2005/feb05/02-15RSA05KeynotePR.asp
Internet Explorer 7 beta this summer!!

Gates announced Internet Explorer 7.0, designed to add new levels of security to Windows XP SP2 while maintaining the level of extensibility and compatibility that customers have come to expect. Internet Explorer 7.0 will also provide even stronger defenses against phishing, malicious software and spyware. The beta release is scheduled to be available this summer.

Man - that's good news. I've been using Firefox more and more but sure would love to have a new and better version of IE available as well.  I can think of a couple key features I would like to see them add right away.

Sigh - a'ight - now I'll open the thread to discussion even though I'm afraid that there's some people out there who are going to post stupid shit just because they feel the need to bash micro$oft because they mistakenly think its cool to do so.   Luckily those people are still in the minority.
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« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2005, 10:58:26 PM »

Actually it is the cool thing to do, El, we just never told you. smile I'm also happy that MS finally got off their ass and decided to release this to the public instead of auto-bundling it with Longhorn. Here's hoping it includes features like tabbed browsing and that the CPU usage doesn't triple per tab. That would be my fear - that they would incorporate needed features then still screw it up. smile
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« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2005, 11:03:58 PM »

WBS - yeah I agree I'm glad they finally started development again. I've hated the fact that they've sat on it for years now even while Web Standards were still moving forward.

Firefox is a good browser and I'm really looking forward to being able to focus some development in it next week at my new job. (I especially can't wait to really dig into the XUL features of firefox).
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« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2005, 11:10:40 PM »

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WBS - yeah I agree I'm glad they finally started development again. I've hated the fact that they've sat on it for years now even while Web Standards were still moving forward.

Firefox is a good browser and I'm really looking forward to being able to focus some development in it next week at my new job. (I especially can't wait to really dig into the XUL features of firefox).

Wait 'til you see the proposed changes to JScript and CSS compatibility.  :cry:

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« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2005, 11:22:57 PM »

Here's what I'm wondering:

The main difference I see between IE and FF, security-wise, is that FF doesn't use ActiveX.  Therefore, the main advantage IE has is that it is ActiveX capable.  However,  for that to be worth a damn, all ActiveX security issues must be resolved.

So, is IE7 going to have some new, supersecure ActiveX capability?  That's what it would take for me to go back.
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« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2005, 02:08:47 AM »

Wasn't it said that tabbed browsing wasn't being considered at this time?  Or was that just with the latest SP update of IE?

I just can not imagine life without tabbed browsing.
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« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2005, 03:12:07 AM »

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Wait 'til you see the proposed changes to JScript and CSS compatibility.  :cry:
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??????????????????????????

What changes??
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« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2005, 03:13:04 AM »

Yeah, I'm anxious to hear this too- what changes?
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« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2005, 05:02:49 AM »

As far as I know there are none, which I'm actually happy about, since I already have to keep track of three buggy IE engines. I don't want a fourth.
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« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2005, 02:40:58 PM »

As a web developer, let me say:

Yay!  Yet another browser to support!

There's a part of me that hopes that they don't touch the page rendering at all, because I don't think I could take needing to learn another batch of CSS workarounds to get stuff to appear correctly in IE5.5-7 and Firefox.

On the other hand, if they actually *fixed* all the issues, then that would definitely be a good thing, but I fear that we're going to end up somewhere in between, where IE7 has another set of "quirks" that you must work around.
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« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2005, 03:26:43 PM »

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Wait 'til you see the proposed changes to JScript and CSS compatibility.  :cry:
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??????????????????????????

What changes??

Just rumors at this point mind you, but word is jscript support is changing to it's half brother JaScript 2005.  So who knows where compatability will go with that.  I for one have a lot of javascript that will at least have to be tested with a new browser, if not recoded.

Also they are supposedly switching from CSS to a proprietary MS page styling system and will only have basic support for standard CSS.

I also heard this quote from a fairly good source:
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it supports running compiled packages for page display, rather than dealing with multiple download calls for each file, images, etc.

I haven't had exactly what that means explained to me, but it sounds promising.  I assume it means something like: I could gather a file of images, style sheets, etc... push them onto the client, and the browser will pull images and style sheets from that... no downloading involved.  No clue how secure that will be, but it's an interesting idea.

Granted there are supposed to be a lot of improvements too, extra security all around, spell checker for for form input fields, etc., but I remain skeptical... but that's mostly by nature. smile

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« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2005, 03:43:47 PM »

If there isn't tabbed browsing and a feature similar to the FF extension AdBlock, then I don't even see the point of wasting my time with IE.
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« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2005, 03:55:41 PM »

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If there isn't tabbed browsing and a feature similar to the FF extension AdBlock, then I don't even see the point of wasting my time with IE.

I haven't heard anything about if tabbed browsing will be in or not (I'd assume so, since they'd be moronic to not include it... so yeah, it's up in the air Tongue), but I've heard that there will be no popup blocker.  Supposedly they are going to "fix popups" by cutting down what you can do with JS and popups.

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« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2005, 04:30:33 PM »

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If there isn't tabbed browsing and a feature similar to the FF extension AdBlock, then I don't even see the point of wasting my time with IE.

I haven't heard anything about if tabbed browsing will be in or not (I'd assume so, since they'd be moronic to not include it... so yeah, it's up in the air Tongue), but I've heard that there will be no popup blocker.  Supposedly they are going to "fix popups" by cutting down what you can do with JS and popups.

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Since a pop-up blocker was included in SP2 wouldn't it be redundant to include another one with IE7? And since I fixed Firefox (too many extensions overlapping, so I ripped them all and installed a few new ones and it works like a champ) at home and at work then there's little need for me to use IE again.
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« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2005, 04:55:20 PM »

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If there isn't tabbed browsing and a feature similar to the FF extension AdBlock, then I don't even see the point of wasting my time with IE.

I haven't heard anything about if tabbed browsing will be in or not (I'd assume so, since they'd be moronic to not include it... so yeah, it's up in the air Tongue), but I've heard that there will be no popup blocker.  Supposedly they are going to "fix popups" by cutting down what you can do with JS and popups.

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Adblocker isn't the same as a pop-up blocker.  Adblocker allows you to kill the ads on a page you want to otherwise view.
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« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2005, 08:18:57 PM »

Hopefully Microsoft is getting pre-release copies out to the hackers ASAP so they can have their security exploits ready on v7's launch day  :twisted:
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« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2005, 04:11:46 AM »

How far is Microsoft allowed to incorporate extensions or properties of Firefox?  I guess in other words, is Microsoft allow to steal tabbed browsing, mouse gestures, adblock, and such things or does Firefox protect some of these as its own?
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« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2005, 06:20:11 AM »

pretty much every current browser has tabs- opera, safari, camino, netscape, etc.

shouldn't be a problem.

besides, Firefox is open source, isn't it?
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« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2005, 09:25:09 AM »

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How far is Microsoft allowed to incorporate extensions or properties of Firefox?  I guess in other words, is Microsoft allow to steal tabbed browsing, mouse gestures, adblock, and such things or does Firefox protect some of these as its own?


Firefox wouldn't be able to claim tabs as their own. It originated with Opera.
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« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2005, 06:52:56 PM »

I was just saying the other day to a friend of mine, that is really is time to reinvent the browser a bit, its gotten a little stale. I have tried the others and the TABS are a good start... but If I was in an browser design team, I could think of 100 different things to do.
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« Reply #20 on: February 17, 2005, 09:49:19 PM »

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How far is Microsoft allowed to incorporate extensions or properties of Firefox?  I guess in other words, is Microsoft allow to steal tabbed browsing, mouse gestures, adblock, and such things or does Firefox protect some of these as its own?

With the exception of tabbed browsing, the other things are just user-created extensions, which Firefox has no claim on.  And even those user-created modules are just old ideas repackaged for the most part.
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