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« on: February 20, 2010, 03:37:02 PM »

http://www.tvsquad.com/2010/02/18/dont-believe-everything-you-see-on-tv/?icid=main|main|dl2|link7|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tvsquad.com%2F2010%2F02%2F18%2Fdont-believe-everything-you-see-on-tv%2F


This was pretty cool and shots that I figured were on location weren't....
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« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2010, 06:13:30 PM »

That's pretty cool!  It now makes me question everything I see smile
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« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2010, 06:30:45 PM »

That was well done. It made me wonder, though: When and why did blue screens turn into green screens?
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« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2010, 06:36:37 PM »

from wiki:


In the digital world, however green has become the favored color because digital cameras retain more detail in the green channel and it requires less light than blue. Green not only has a higher luminance value than blue but also in early digital formats the green channel was sampled twice as often as the blue, making it easier to work with. The choice of color is up to the effects artists and the needs of the specific shot

Also, the green background is favored over blue for outdoors filming where the blue sky might appear in the frame and could accidentally be replaced in the process. Although green and blue are the most common, any color can be used.
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« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2010, 06:40:26 PM »

Wow.  Put me in the "I had no idea" camp as well.
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« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2010, 08:01:32 PM »

That was actually pretty brilliant. Shows how important a good green screen work can be to fool the eyes into thinking it's real. Also makes you realize that there's a lot more work put into getting a specific scene. Really puts the bad work to shame, like in the movie Australia.
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« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2010, 08:19:50 PM »

The one that really got me in that clip was where Ugly Betty walks out of a building, past a reporter and face first into a bus stop.  I was expecting some greenscreen enhancing the background.  Instead, nothing except the two actors was real. 
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« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2010, 08:22:42 PM »

Quote from: Rumpy on February 20, 2010, 08:01:32 PM

Really puts the bad work to shame, like in the movie Australia.

you watched Australia?


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« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2010, 08:44:44 PM »

Wow, green screen tech has come a long way.  I didn't realize it could be used outdoors so well now, I was used to it all being indoors.  Likewise, matte painting techniques have improved.
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« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2010, 08:50:44 PM »

Quote from: Tscott on February 20, 2010, 08:19:50 PM

The one that really got me in that clip was where Ugly Betty walks out of a building, past a reporter and face first into a bus stop.  I was expecting some greenscreen enhancing the background.  Instead, nothing except the two actors was real. 

Amazing.
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« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2010, 09:18:00 PM »

yet more proof that you really can't believe anything you see these days...
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« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2010, 09:56:19 PM »

That is really interesting. I have often caught myself watching Law and Order or something and wondering how on earth they got the permits to disrupt a busy street in the middle of the day. Now I know.
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« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2010, 12:12:13 AM »

Quote from: CeeKay on February 20, 2010, 08:22:42 PM

Quote from: Rumpy on February 20, 2010, 08:01:32 PM

Really puts the bad work to shame, like in the movie Australia.

you watched Australia?


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« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2010, 03:42:43 AM »

Quote from: Harkonis on February 20, 2010, 06:36:37 PM

from wiki:


In the digital world, however green has become the favored color because digital cameras retain more detail in the green channel and it requires less light than blue. Green not only has a higher luminance value than blue but also in early digital formats the green channel was sampled twice as often as the blue, making it easier to work with. The choice of color is up to the effects artists and the needs of the specific shot

Also, the green background is favored over blue for outdoors filming where the blue sky might appear in the frame and could accidentally be replaced in the process. Although green and blue are the most common, any color can be used.

Thanks for taking the trouble. I figured maybe there were more blue than green foreground objects. Hadn't thought about the sky. In my day, we didn't have green, so the point was moot.
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« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2010, 04:03:43 AM »

Actually guys, a lot of those shots you see do have real footage as the background, such as the Ugly Betty scene.  That's a real bus stop and building, and stair.  It's likely they just didn't want to have an expensive on location shot so they had a camera crew record the actual location (or multiple locations spliced together) then superimposed the actors on it.
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« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2010, 04:06:00 AM »

I don't think anyone here was claiming the crowds were CGI, just that the shot wasn't actually 'there'.  Silly turtle slywink
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« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2010, 04:07:49 AM »

Quote from: disarm on February 20, 2010, 09:18:00 PM

yet more proof that you really can't believe anything you see these days...

Yes. In fact KD has actually green screened this whole post!
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« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2010, 05:33:29 AM »

Quote from: Punisher on February 21, 2010, 04:07:49 AM

Quote from: disarm on February 20, 2010, 09:18:00 PM

yet more proof that you really can't believe anything you see these days...

Yes. In fact KD has actually green screened this whole post!

so we're not really here?
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« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2010, 06:03:29 AM »

Quote from: Sparhawk on February 20, 2010, 08:50:44 PM

Quote from: Tscott on February 20, 2010, 08:19:50 PM

The one that really got me in that clip was where Ugly Betty walks out of a building, past a reporter and face first into a bus stop.  I was expecting some greenscreen enhancing the background.  Instead, nothing except the two actors was real. 

Amazing.

Most Uneccessary Green Screen Ever
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« Reply #19 on: February 21, 2010, 06:19:25 AM »

Quote from: CeeKay on February 21, 2010, 05:33:29 AM

so we're not really here?

This is just further proof that we're all holograms.
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« Reply #20 on: February 21, 2010, 06:34:40 AM »

Quote from: Canuck on February 21, 2010, 06:03:29 AM

Quote from: Sparhawk on February 20, 2010, 08:50:44 PM

Quote from: Tscott on February 20, 2010, 08:19:50 PM

The one that really got me in that clip was where Ugly Betty walks out of a building, past a reporter and face first into a bus stop.  I was expecting some greenscreen enhancing the background.  Instead, nothing except the two actors was real. 

Amazing.

Most Uneccessary Green Screen Ever

I guess they film in LA, but the show is set in NY.  I guess they do what they have to do to get the shot.  I just never thought they'd film an entire scene without the star and insert them later.  You can even see an extra in New York reacting to her faceplant in LA.
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« Reply #21 on: February 21, 2010, 03:39:26 PM »

Quote from: Tscott on February 21, 2010, 06:34:40 AM

Quote from: Canuck on February 21, 2010, 06:03:29 AM

Quote from: Sparhawk on February 20, 2010, 08:50:44 PM

Quote from: Tscott on February 20, 2010, 08:19:50 PM

The one that really got me in that clip was where Ugly Betty walks out of a building, past a reporter and face first into a bus stop.  I was expecting some greenscreen enhancing the background.  Instead, nothing except the two actors was real. 

Amazing.

Most Uneccessary Green Screen Ever

I guess they film in LA, but the show is set in NY.  I guess they do what they have to do to get the shot.  I just never thought they'd film an entire scene without the star and insert them later.  You can even see an extra in New York reacting to her faceplant in LA.

They used to shoot in LA.  They moved the cast last season. 

I would swear that a couple of those shots were done since they moved to NYC, though.  If so they're using green screen for some other reason.  It could be as simple as release forms or the skyline not looking right or trying to block some billboards.
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