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« on: February 13, 2006, 06:52:13 PM »

Does anybody else have a problem with the cross-posting that goes on between this forum and OO??  I swear sometimes I feel like I'm browsing the exact same forum.  If I wanted absolutely no variety then I would just stick with a single forum.  It seems like 30-40% of the threads are carbon copies of each other.

Anyways that's about it.  Sorry I just felt the need to vent. smile
All I ask is that if you're going to cross-post please state that you are doing so in your original post so we all know that you are too lazy to provide original content.  Copying and pasting makes you a spammer. smile
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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2006, 06:55:21 PM »

You should post this exact same thing at OO.
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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2006, 06:56:30 PM »

I almost never, unless its a trade, cross post on the forums. I find it bad form, tacky, and honestly I prefer to keep my best, or at least my actual "me being pleasant and normal" time for GT. But anyways, the least the better, UNLESS its something simple like game releases, demo news, etc. There is nothing wrong with that stuff being duplicated. Its just the nature of the internet.
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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2006, 06:58:58 PM »

It used to bug me, but I try not to dwell on it any more.
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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2006, 07:08:42 PM »

Considering we get the same information but exactly none of the drama of OO, I consider it an evil I can live with.
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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2006, 07:40:18 PM »

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I find it bad form, tacky...

I read 'form' as 'forum.'

It makes more sense that way.
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« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2006, 07:46:31 PM »

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I find it bad form, tacky...

I read 'form' as 'forum.'

It makes more sense that way.
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« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2006, 07:51:02 PM »

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I find it bad form, tacky...

I read 'form' as 'forum.'

It makes more sense that way.
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« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2006, 07:57:27 PM »

Simplify your life.  Ditch OO.

All the cool kids are doing it.
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« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2006, 08:10:44 PM »

Ok though, while some of this is funny, lets not turn this into a site bashing thread, because the general discussion about cross posting is pertinent and worthy of talking about. So lets stay cool hmmmkay?
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« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2006, 08:22:16 PM »

I'm not a huge fan, but I have been guilty of it on occassion. Typically I'll try, even if I'm posting on the same subject at both sites, to vary my posts up a little bit.
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« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2006, 08:33:18 PM »

I think each has their strengths and weaknesses.  
For example

I don't think OO would have a 4 page thread about Dragon Quest 8.  But I also don't think GT would have a 10 page thread about Gothic 2.  

Each place is different enough I think to compliment each other without drawing down.


What I find really interesting is how the responses and tone of a thread can be vastly different between the two sites even if the starting material is the same.
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« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2006, 08:37:39 PM »

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What I find really interesting is how the responses and tone of a thread can be vastly different between the two sites even if the starting material is the same.


I find this particularly fascinating, from a socio-cultural sort of standpoint.
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« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2006, 08:57:07 PM »

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Does anybody else have a problem with the cross-posting that goes on between this forum and OO??

I haven't been to OO for awhile so I'm missing the cross-posts.  That said, they are inevitable.  I'll occasionally post something here I see at QT3 or somewhere else but I always try to say "found this at QT3."

Let's not be hating on other forums here though.  Unless it's the IGN boards.  Feel free to bash those.
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« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2006, 09:02:51 PM »

For my daily dose of venom, few things can beat BC. But that's me. smile
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« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2006, 09:25:43 PM »

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I think each has their strengths and weaknesses.  
For example

I don't think OO would have a 4 page thread about Dragon Quest 8.


O Rly?

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« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2006, 09:31:08 PM »

I do it all the time. Simply because not everyone reads both forums and i like for everyone to see my posts.
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« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2006, 09:32:50 PM »

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I think each has their strengths and weaknesses.  
For example

I don't think OO would have a 4 page thread about Dragon Quest 8.


O Rly?

 :wink:


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« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2006, 09:35:38 PM »

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I do it all the time. Simply because not everyone reads both forums and i like for everyone to see my posts.
Well we know you do, you are public enemy #1 smile
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« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2006, 09:35:42 PM »

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For my daily dose of venom, few things can beat BC. But that's me. smile


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« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2006, 09:51:54 PM »

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Simplify your life.  Ditch OO.

All the cool kids are doing it.


I lucked out and found Console Gold on its own, got hooked, and migrated here of course after the whole domain issue.  However, I only recently found out about OO, and after reading on that forum for a couple of days, realized that I could do just fine with this place and Gamers With Jobs.  I don't need a third forum.  slywink

For that matter, I must say that it's amusing sometimes how much cross-posting I see on that forum and this one, too.  A lot of times I see the exact same thread (and first post) started on each forum by the same author.  What's up with that?  biggrin
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« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2006, 10:21:20 PM »

I can see how each forum would give it's own slant on an issue, but it is an amusing thing.  For myself, there are enough of the people I knew from GG here, and essentially none of the idiots, that I'm perfectly happy here.  I will even say I find this place far more enjoyable than GG was.  The whole 'selective moderation' issue doesn't occur here, for one thing among many.

I also cut down on the forums I was on.  I had accounts at a few other forums, but most of the time it isnt worth it.  How many forums does one person really have time to check?  For me, it seems my limit is really one or two.
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« Reply #22 on: February 14, 2006, 12:27:47 AM »

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Let's not be hating on other forums here though.  Unless it's the IGN boards.  Feel free to bash those.

Can we bash the Gamefaqs boards as well? biggrin
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« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2006, 12:33:42 AM »

I tried to get into their boards, but... wow, its just TOO scattered around.  Multiple forums for each version of each game?  WTF is up with that?

And don't get me started on their BS faq acceptance policies.  
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« Reply #24 on: February 14, 2006, 01:09:33 AM »

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Does anybody else have a problem with the cross-posting that goes on between this forum and OO??

I haven't been to OO for awhile so I'm missing the cross-posts.  That said, they are inevitable.  I'll occasionally post something here I see at QT3 or somewhere else but I always try to say "found this at QT3."

Let's not be hating on other forums here though.  Unless it's the IGN boards.  Feel free to bash those.



Yes thanks for that, I apprecieate seeing "(crossposted at QT3)" even though I never visit that site. To me, crossposting without actually stating it is as bad as handing in an essay for university that you've already submitted for another class. If you're gonna do it, at least own up to it. smile

And for the record, I my purpose is not for this thread to descend into forum bashing (unless of course as it has already been stated, we're talking about IGN boards or Gamefaqs boards) as I actually quite like OO.  That's why the lack of content variety annoys me sometimes.
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« Reply #25 on: February 14, 2006, 01:39:44 AM »

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I think each has their strengths and weaknesses.  
For example

I don't think OO would have a 4 page thread about Dragon Quest 8.


O Rly?

 :wink:


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« Reply #26 on: February 14, 2006, 01:56:43 AM »

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I think each has their strengths and weaknesses.  
For example

I don't think OO would have a 4 page thread about Dragon Quest 8.


O Rly?

 :wink:


NO WAI!


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« Reply #27 on: February 14, 2006, 02:04:26 AM »

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...as bad as handing in an essay for university that you've already submitted for another class. If you're gonna do it, at least own up to it. smile


There's something wrong with that?  Sounds like working smart, not working hard.
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« Reply #28 on: February 14, 2006, 02:07:15 AM »

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...as bad as handing in an essay for university that you've already submitted for another class. If you're gonna do it, at least own up to it. smile


There's something wrong with that?  


Only if you if you get caught I suppose smile
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« Reply #29 on: February 14, 2006, 02:58:48 AM »

No, really, is there some rule which says you need to wholy create, new, each report you write?  I don't see something wrong with modifying old work, so long as it was actually authored by you.

I'm just wondering if this is not allowed.  Recycling old reports sounds like a great time saver.
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« Reply #30 on: February 14, 2006, 04:34:19 AM »

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No, really, is there some rule which says you need to wholy create, new, each report you write?  I don't see something wrong with modifying old work, so long as it was actually authored by you.

I'm just wondering if this is not allowed.  Recycling old reports sounds like a great time saver.


Been there - done that.  A lot of time I look at these 'reports' as the 'filler' of the class.  I'm not abject to recycling them as long as it isn't with the same instructor. smile
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« Reply #31 on: February 14, 2006, 06:35:03 AM »

Yes it is illegal and you can get kicked out of your program for it!  If it wasn't then I would have perfected a generic essay and handed it in for every class.
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« Reply #32 on: February 14, 2006, 06:41:04 AM »

I was thinking more along the lines of a synergenistic report.  You choose a topic which can work for more than one class, and put your time into that.

However, is "illegal" really the proper term?
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« Reply #33 on: February 14, 2006, 10:13:24 AM »

I have been to OO twice... I think...

You dont cool kids like me there, so thusly this place is better by association.
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« Reply #34 on: February 14, 2006, 05:03:59 PM »

I always 'massage' my reports to fit the class, but there are some reports that simply don't need to be rewritten.
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« Reply #35 on: February 14, 2006, 05:26:12 PM »

This sounds like some of the petty bitchin' that goes on over there, too  :wink:

I see absolutely nothing wrong with it because it simply doesn't happen that often.

I've been guilty of doing it myself on occasion, but mostly concerning something console-related, bargain-related or hardware-related.

Makes sense, doesn't it?
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« Reply #36 on: February 14, 2006, 07:52:58 PM »

Bargain related I can see, since it is just spreading the word.
Same thing with computer problems.  It's just a greater chance that somebody would have a proper solution, or could help find one.

But as far as asking something like whether Salma Hayek is hotter than Vida Guerra, I don't see how many different forums some questions need to be posted in.  Althought honestly, for my money you can't see enough pictures of those two.
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« Reply #37 on: February 14, 2006, 08:15:55 PM »

I've done it on occasion when it's a topic i really want some feedback on, particularly a gaming issue.

I only recently registered there but my home is here.   We got a tight little community here that i'm confortable with.
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« Reply #38 on: February 14, 2006, 09:31:01 PM »

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I've done it on occasion when it's a topic i really want some feedback on, particularly a gaming issue.

I only recently registered there but my home is here.   We got a tight little community here that i'm confortable with.


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« Reply #39 on: February 15, 2006, 03:10:12 AM »

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This is the policy from my alma mater.  I did it once-didn't get caught but I did feel pretty greasy.  Actually what I did was even worse because I think I handed in the same essay to the same proffessor only in two different years.  Both were very big history classes and I figured  that if I changed it around a little bit, the odds of him remembering my likely unmemorable essay were pretty low.

It's greasy to do it in university and it's even greasier to do it on here in my opinion.  I've got no problems with doing it for computer problems and stuff like that but for anything else it just seems like a cry for attention.
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