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« on: August 25, 2006, 08:59:58 AM »

So, I'm playing Counterstrike: Source and naturally the first server I join is near full.  I join the terrorist side and realize that I'm surrounded by "Nigger hating Jew" "Nigger Swing" "Hung Nig" "-_NickNig_-" and "BlackJesus".  Wow.  Just wow....  Before I can even log out, the chat is already filled with random and pointless racism and talk about "Yo, I'm gonna log out and smoke a bowl". 

I hit the next server and I don't see any racist names.  Well that is a start.  A few uneventful rounds go by and I'm low on cash.  I switch to pistols and armor, but apparently I'm not moving fast enough.  Over in-game voice I get "Move your ass you fucking stupid monkey nigger!".  Just wow...  I make some comments about keeping their pointless racist comments to themselves.  They really come out of the woodwork now and just lay into me with racist bullshit.  I disconnect.

I hit my third server of the night and apparently I've found a pot smoking clan.   Everyone's name is something like "Resin_Man" "Budz" or the like.  You can imagine that voice and text chat was all about how to use your pool cover to grow your own pot. 

Seriously.  What the hell?  Is everyone on the damned Internet a racist druggie??
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« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2006, 10:25:11 AM »

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on August 25, 2006, 08:59:58 AM

So, I'm playing Counterstrike: Source and naturally the first server I join is near full.  I join the terrorist side and realize that I'm surrounded by "Nigger hating Jew" "Nigger Swing" "Hung Nig" "-_NickNig_-" and "BlackJesus".  Wow.  Just wow....  Before I can even log out, the chat is already filled with random and pointless racism and talk about "Yo, I'm gonna log out and smoke a bowl". 

I hit the next server and I don't see any racist names.  Well that is a start.  A few uneventful rounds go by and I'm low on cash.  I switch to pistols and armor, but apparently I'm not moving fast enough.  Over in-game voice I get "Move your ass you fucking stupid monkey nigger!".  Just wow...  I make some comments about keeping their pointless racist comments to themselves.  They really come out of the woodwork now and just lay into me with racist bullshit.  I disconnect.

I hit my third server of the night and apparently I've found a pot smoking clan.   Everyone's name is something like "Resin_Man" "Budz" or the like.  You can imagine that voice and text chat was all about how to use your pool cover to grow your own pot. 

Seriously.  What the hell?  Is everyone on the damned Internet a racist druggie??

Add the internet+ anonymity+ youth+ lack of parental supervision= what you got.   Big part is the anonymity.  Most wouldn't be caught dead talking like that around parents or adults. Sadly, that why I avoid open servers
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« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2006, 10:48:27 AM »

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Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on August 25, 2006, 08:59:58 AM

So, I'm playing Counterstrike: Source and naturally the first server I join is near full.  I join the terrorist side and realize that I'm surrounded by "Nigger hating Jew" "Nigger Swing" "Hung Nig" "-_NickNig_-" and "BlackJesus".  Wow.  Just wow....  Before I can even log out, the chat is already filled with random and pointless racism and talk about "Yo, I'm gonna log out and smoke a bowl". 

I hit the next server and I don't see any racist names.  Well that is a start.  A few uneventful rounds go by and I'm low on cash.  I switch to pistols and armor, but apparently I'm not moving fast enough.  Over in-game voice I get "Move your ass you fucking stupid monkey nigger!".  Just wow...  I make some comments about keeping their pointless racist comments to themselves.  They really come out of the woodwork now and just lay into me with racist bullshit.  I disconnect.

I hit my third server of the night and apparently I've found a pot smoking clan.   Everyone's name is something like "Resin_Man" "Budz" or the like.  You can imagine that voice and text chat was all about how to use your pool cover to grow your own pot. 

Seriously.  What the hell?  Is everyone on the damned Internet a racist druggie??

Add the internet+ anonymity+ youth+ lack of parental supervision= what you got.   Big part is the anonymity.  Most wouldn't be caught dead talking like that around parents or adults. Sadly, that why I avoid open servers

*nods*  I need to get some free time and get back online with people I know.  This is grating on me....
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« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2006, 12:29:25 PM »

Believe it or not, there are good Counterstrike servers out there that don't tolerate that crap.  You've just gotta find a few servers that are up to your standards and stick with them.
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« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2006, 12:51:30 PM »

My solution has been to only play with GTers/OOers.  It limits when I can play but it has been better off that way.
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« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2006, 01:16:17 PM »

This is a major, major reason why I dont just play random online games anymore. In fact, the easy access to internet for the 12-16 year old crowd and the stoner druggie 16-26ish crowd has contributed to me playing maybe 50% online than I used to.
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« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2006, 02:14:45 PM »

Quote from: Calvin on August 25, 2006, 01:16:17 PM

This is a major, major reason why I dont just play random online games anymore. In fact, the easy access to internet for the 12-16 year old crowd and the stoner druggie 16-26ish crowd has contributed to me playing maybe 50% online than I used to.

QFT.

The 'average' online gamer has become...something that nobody wants to play with.
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« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2006, 02:46:54 PM »

That sucks. The stoners ... eh, that doesn't bug me so much. So you deal with a little idiocy. That's harmless. It's the blatant racism that sickens me. "Monkey Nigger"?? I'd fucking pile drive that kid if he ever said that in front of me.
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« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2006, 03:21:27 PM »

There are people like that in MMOs too.  Its irritating.  However, I dont think a lot of them are racists, as in they do not believe whatever race they are is superior to other races.  That is just how they talk.
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« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2006, 03:27:00 PM »

What fascinates me about this phenomenon is how common it is.  Why is it so widespread?  There has to be something attractive about it for this many people to adopt these attitudes.

The equation is pretty much:

Internet kid = (racism*drug use)^(level of anonymity)

Where racism is higher in the sub-16 crowd, and drug use is higher in the post-16 crowd.

It's my firm belief that the vast majority of these people a.) aren't actually racists and b.) at worst have only experimented with weed, if that.  So why do they do it?

My theory is that, well, it's kind of the human condition.  Not to say we're all innately racists and druggies, just, those ideas are just the most effective symbols of what the individual is trying to express. 

See, anonymity works both ways -- no one knows your identity, but then, in an all-anonymous environment, identity is a moot point, so technically, you don't even know your own identity.  In this gray, lukewarm mush of anonymity, the only thing we have to express is our basic agenda, because it's futile to expound upon more complex or varied thought processes. 

** Before I dive into this, I want to mention that the following examples apply exclusively to Americans.  Racism and drug use are the symbols encountered in American online games, there very well might be other symbols in other nations' online games, but I would still speculate that some kind of symbology exists.  From here on out, if you see "kids" or "normal" or anything like that, I really mean "American kids", or "what is normal in America."  **

It comes down to age.  Being under 16 is about being afraid.  You've just come out of childhood, and suddenly there are all these pressures and stresses upon you; the world turns out to be a whole fuck of alot bigger than your home street; for the first time you're feeling darker compulsions like rage, lust, the whole base cruelty of social acceptance or rejection, and much more.  What better symbolizes that self-fear than racism, the projection of your individual capacity for evil onto a phantom Other which is easily demonized due to the physical differences between you and the Other's race?

16's the turning point.  I think that, by 16, most "normal" (average) kids have a firmer grip on their compulsions and their capacity for "evil."  Past 16 and into maturity, most "normal" individuals have largely made peace with themselves, they recognize their darker potential but have decided, either through rationalization, morality, spirituality, or other philosophical pathways, that the best course of action is probably to "live and let live," considering they are a unique individual, and (in their minds) their lives are better when how they go about living isn't criticized.  Simultaneously, this is the age range where kids begin to challenge conformity and extant order in an attempt to differentiate themselves from the background noise of normality. 

Smoking pot perfectly symbolizes these forces.  You never see a cocaine clan, or a heroin clan, or an acid clan.  While those are drugs too, their effects, and thus their symbology, don't match up with the relaxed, live-and-let-live base personality attempting to be expressed.  Pot smoking also is decidedly anti-establishment, as it is illegal but not particularly harmful to anyone, which, to many, becomes a symbol of the hypocrisies intrinsic to organization and establishments. 

To summarize, the anonymity of public online gaming prevents the expression of anything more than the most basic aspects of an individual's psychology.  Because these aspects are so basic -- perhaps even subconscious -- symbols must be used to express them.  And the symbols, no matter how offensive, repugnant, or ignorant their usual definition, are still only symbols.
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« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2006, 03:27:16 PM »

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on August 25, 2006, 08:59:58 AM

So, I'm playing Counterstrike: Source and naturally the first server I join is near full.  I join the terrorist side and realize that I'm surrounded by "Nigger hating Jew" "Nigger Swing" "Hung Nig" "-_NickNig_-" and "BlackJesus".  Wow.  Just wow....  Before I can even log out, the chat is already filled with random and pointless racism and talk about "Yo, I'm gonna log out and smoke a bowl". 

I hit the next server and I don't see any racist names.  Well that is a start.  A few uneventful rounds go by and I'm low on cash.  I switch to pistols and armor, but apparently I'm not moving fast enough.  Over in-game voice I get "Move your ass you fucking stupid monkey nigger!".  Just wow...  I make some comments about keeping their pointless racist comments to themselves.  They really come out of the woodwork now and just lay into me with racist bullshit.  I disconnect.

I hit my third server of the night and apparently I've found a pot smoking clan.   Everyone's name is something like "Resin_Man" "Budz" or the like.  You can imagine that voice and text chat was all about how to use your pool cover to grow your own pot. 

Seriously.  What the hell?  Is everyone on the damned Internet a racist druggie??

I don't know about racist or biggotted (very different things), but I can tell you that the general online climate is one of extreme immaturity.  I've almost given up on online play these days.  Between the smack talkers, racists, porn talk and general lack of respect, I can't really put up with it much.

Names I've seen recently online: IFuxedURmom, NutsackHair, MelGibsonsCock, etc.

We must be getting old, our tolerance level for nonsense seems to grow thin as I age.
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« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2006, 03:50:22 PM »

I saw a name on halo 2 the other day "LynchCo0ns"

That's fucking terrible, burn in hell man.
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« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2006, 04:01:34 PM »

It's a good thing Counter-Strike Source has bots.. (and damn good bots, at that!) You won't get any lip from them when playing.

Don't know though because when I was playing CSS online, I never used a headset. I used the good old traditional keyboard to chat, and had a blast playing it.

Now in SOCOM (PSP) though I'm hearing some similiar shit. Last night this idiot kept team killing me so I decided to team kill him back and being a better player than he was, I kept killing him at the start of each round. (SOCOM plays out a lot like Counter-Strike as when you die you've gotta wait till the next round.) I dont have the headset for a reason (mainly so I dont have to listen to all the BS) but when we got back into the lobby where you can use the virtual keyboard I see a "corrupt you stupid nigger" and an onslaught of racist comments.
WTF? This isn't the first time I've seen comments like that either, but I'm wondering, can they somehow see who's behind the other computer screen? How do they know I'm not an Indian from Bombay?
Although I could definitely see how a black guy would get offended by pointless comments like that, but then again to be completely fair about things, I've seen some anti-white ("yo cracker get off our server!") comments, too.
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« Reply #13 on: August 25, 2006, 04:05:01 PM »

The best "Crews" I have found online are usually in Day of Defeat Source.. Seldom do I run across a total moron in that.. Maybe 1-2 times out of 200+ games.
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« Reply #14 on: August 25, 2006, 04:21:31 PM »

It's so weird.  For the most part, my PUG-ing experience has generally been racist free.  But then again, I've lived near college campuses most of my life, so I guess I've been mostly gaming with college age people if I chose to PUG it.  My WORST experience was in America's Army of all places. I said someone's comments were inappropriate and I got booted off the server.
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« Reply #15 on: August 25, 2006, 04:57:47 PM »

For server recommendations, I'd recommend these guys:

http://www.ecg-css.com/mambo/

They're extremely strict, to the point where you can't even curse at all, but I much more enjoy playing there, because such nonsense as mentioned aboved NEVER happens. I've been playing on their 2 servers for about a year, nothing great but I have more fun playing in a friendly enviroment, which they at least try to offer. They've got rules about everything though, but usually it's for the best. For example, if you get over 20 kills in 1 round with a 3:1 ratio, you can only use a pistol. Just make sure you follow the rules and gaming is a lot more fun.


I don't really have any recent stories of rampant stupidity, as I try my hardest to stay far away from it.

Anyway, how do you guys like the new radar system in the update? Pretty interesting choice... definitely something that I wasn't expecting, but it looks pretty cool so far.
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« Reply #16 on: August 25, 2006, 05:15:30 PM »

Ugh, what disgusting behavior.  That's why I hardly go online anymore for pickup games.  Some of these kids need to put the controller down and then be smacked uspide the head. 
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« Reply #17 on: August 25, 2006, 09:48:19 PM »

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What fascinates me about this phenomenon is how common it is.  Why is it so widespread?  There has to be something attractive about it for this many people to adopt these attitudes.

The equation is pretty much:

Internet kid = (racism*drug use)^(level of anonymity)

Where racism is higher in the sub-16 crowd, and drug use is higher in the post-16 crowd.

It's my firm belief that the vast majority of these people a.) aren't actually racists and b.) at worst have only experimented with weed, if that.  So why do they do it?

My theory is that, well, it's kind of the human condition.  Not to say we're all innately racists and druggies, just, those ideas are just the most effective symbols of what the individual is trying to express. 

See, anonymity works both ways -- no one knows your identity, but then, in an all-anonymous environment, identity is a moot point, so technically, you don't even know your own identity.  In this gray, lukewarm mush of anonymity, the only thing we have to express is our basic agenda, because it's futile to expound upon more complex or varied thought processes. 

** Before I dive into this, I want to mention that the following examples apply exclusively to Americans.  Racism and drug use are the symbols encountered in American online games, there very well might be other symbols in other nations' online games, but I would still speculate that some kind of symbology exists.  From here on out, if you see "kids" or "normal" or anything like that, I really mean "American kids", or "what is normal in America."  **

It comes down to age.  Being under 16 is about being afraid.  You've just come out of childhood, and suddenly there are all these pressures and stresses upon you; the world turns out to be a whole fuck of alot bigger than your home street; for the first time you're feeling darker compulsions like rage, lust, the whole base cruelty of social acceptance or rejection, and much more.  What better symbolizes that self-fear than racism, the projection of your individual capacity for evil onto a phantom Other which is easily demonized due to the physical differences between you and the Other's race?

16's the turning point.  I think that, by 16, most "normal" (average) kids have a firmer grip on their compulsions and their capacity for "evil."  Past 16 and into maturity, most "normal" individuals have largely made peace with themselves, they recognize their darker potential but have decided, either through rationalization, morality, spirituality, or other philosophical pathways, that the best course of action is probably to "live and let live," considering they are a unique individual, and (in their minds) their lives are better when how they go about living isn't criticized.  Simultaneously, this is the age range where kids begin to challenge conformity and extant order in an attempt to differentiate themselves from the background noise of normality. 

Smoking pot perfectly symbolizes these forces.  You never see a cocaine clan, or a heroin clan, or an acid clan.  While those are drugs too, their effects, and thus their symbology, don't match up with the relaxed, live-and-let-live base personality attempting to be expressed.  Pot smoking also is decidedly anti-establishment, as it is illegal but not particularly harmful to anyone, which, to many, becomes a symbol of the hypocrisies intrinsic to organization and establishments. 

To summarize, the anonymity of public online gaming prevents the expression of anything more than the most basic aspects of an individual's psychology.  Because these aspects are so basic -- perhaps even subconscious -- symbols must be used to express them.  And the symbols, no matter how offensive, repugnant, or ignorant their usual definition, are still only symbols.

Well said and it rings of truth.  I didn't rally against it much because, in the environment of anonymity, acting like a tough guy online is just pointless.  The weed thing really doesn't bother me, it was just something else that has become so incredibly pervasive as to grab my attention.  I dunno.....it just boggles my mind.  It has nothing to do with my age or anything - even at 15 or 16 I wouldn't have acted that way.  I was simply raised better than that.   Is that what is really missing?  Is parent absenteeism the primary catalyst for this nonsense you think?  A lot of what kids do are learned behaviors, either from their parents, other kids, or other outside influences.  Granted, regardless of the source you still have a choice whether or not to act that way.  Example - I can watch all the urban street thug influence whatnot in the world, but at the end of the day I don't have to act that way. 
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« Reply #18 on: August 25, 2006, 09:49:25 PM »

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We must be getting old, our tolerance level for nonsense seems to grow thin as I age.

My tolerance was never that high to begin with.  I just find that its running closer to zero lately. 
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« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2006, 09:50:56 PM »

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Although I could definitely see how a black guy would get offended by pointless comments like that, but then again to be completely fair about things, I've seen some anti-white ("yo cracker get off our server!") comments, too.

True, I've seen the same.  The thing that blows my mind is that you can bet that it is probably the same suburban pampered white kid saying that too. 
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« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2006, 09:53:12 PM »

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For server recommendations, I'd recommend these guys:

http://www.ecg-css.com/mambo/

They're extremely strict, to the point where you can't even curse at all, but I much more enjoy playing there, because such nonsense as mentioned aboved NEVER happens. I've been playing on their 2 servers for about a year, nothing great but I have more fun playing in a friendly enviroment, which they at least try to offer. They've got rules about everything though, but usually it's for the best. For example, if you get over 20 kills in 1 round with a 3:1 ratio, you can only use a pistol. Just make sure you follow the rules and gaming is a lot more fun.
I'll check it out.  I guess the bottom like is what was suggested above - make some favorites and stick with em.

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Anyway, how do you guys like the new radar system in the update? Pretty interesting choice... definitely something that I wasn't expecting, but it looks pretty cool so far.
I found that the "I play this every day until my eyes bleed" guys were getting pounded because they don't use the radar.  I picked up people sneaking up on me several times last night and put em in the hurt locker right quick.  I haven't checked out the new HDR map though. 
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« Reply #21 on: August 26, 2006, 02:58:43 AM »

I like HDR in concept, but sadly in online games it's pointless to use it because the enemy will just turn it off and can see you just fine while you're eyes are adjusting.  Games need to either have it permanently on or not even in the game
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« Reply #22 on: August 26, 2006, 08:32:17 AM »

Quote from: Harkonis on August 26, 2006, 02:58:43 AM

I like HDR in concept, but sadly in online games it's pointless to use it because the enemy will just turn it off and can see you just fine while you're eyes are adjusting.  Games need to either have it permanently on or not even in the game

We'll reach a point where it no longer becomes optional. The problem with it now is that it's really tough on video hardware and a lot of people's videocard's just can't hack the extra work and still perform well.

I echo the above comments about finding specific servers with people who don't act like fucking morons and then sticking to them.

I added the servers listed above to my server list myself. I'm always looking for more good pubs in CS.

In fact, ECG looks like they might even be a really good group to game with in general. My general impressions from the forums is that they're younger, and not really careful with how literate their posts are, but they seem to be pretty mature in all the ways that really matter.
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« Reply #23 on: August 26, 2006, 10:48:05 AM »

The interesting thing to me is that the BF2 community is not the same way. Just about every public server I jump on has rules against profanity and racist remarks, and they actually enforce them. And no, I'm not only referring to EA's public servers... I mean the ones clans put up etc etc.

That isn't a slam on CS. But it'd make a curious case-study as to the huge difference between the two gaming communities.
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« Reply #24 on: August 26, 2006, 11:55:11 AM »

I don't think it'd be that different at all because a lot of clans on CSS are the same way having their own rules on profanity and racist remarks, even behaviour.
I remember one guy was going around spray painting his logo (which was a woman's boob) every time a new round started. The mods banned him for that.

If anyone is tired of all the garbage mouth 12 year old kids, seriously, why not just take the headset off? Even when I had Xbox Live for a year (mostly played wolfenstein) I actually found it more fun playing without the headset and hearing all the little kids whine and moan the whole game.
On the PC - it's even better, because you have a keyboard and can still communicate with your team, CSS (or Battlefield 2) is no exception to that, and the whole time I was playing CSS, I never touched a headset. It let me just play and have fun.
And I'd go on a limb and say the bots in CSS are the second best in the industry (following Unreal Tournament 2004) Mike over at Turtle Rock put some really hard work into them and it paid off.
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« Reply #25 on: August 26, 2006, 02:02:24 PM »

Thing is that voice plays whether you have a headset on or not.  You have to disable voice completely or selectively mute.  Neither turns off the text.
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« Reply #26 on: August 31, 2006, 03:23:52 PM »

Speaking of internet assholes;

My 6 year old has been messing with the 3 day (lame short) trial for Toon Town Online.

He was learning the ropes, and in one of the games, had someone say "You suck and are a moron" to him.  I only found out today, when my son said "I am trying a new game, I hope nobody says I suck".

Even the kid games aren't free from Net-Idiots these days it seems.... <sigh>   Sounds like a new generation of Internet cocktards is being bred in the depths of the online kid games.  So its only going to get worse I bet.
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« Reply #27 on: August 31, 2006, 03:30:51 PM »

The internet is going to be the end of civilization as we know it.

Seriously.
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« Reply #28 on: August 31, 2006, 03:50:34 PM »

Quote from: Kobra on August 31, 2006, 03:23:52 PM

Speaking of internet assholes;

My 6 year old has been messing with the 3 day (lame short) trial for Toon Town Online.

He was learning the ropes, and in one of the games, had someone say "You suck and are a moron" to him.  I only found out today, when my son said "I am trying a new game, I hope nobody says I suck".

Even the kid games aren't free from Net-Idiots these days it seems.... <sigh>   Sounds like a new generation of Internet cocktards is being bred in the depths of the online kid games.  So its only going to get worse I bet.

Really?  Back when the wife and I played only people in your buddy list could type text to one another.  To communicate with random folks you had to use the stock phrases built into the game.  Has that changed?
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« Reply #29 on: August 31, 2006, 04:39:43 PM »

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So, I'm playing Counterstrike: Source and naturally the first server I join is near full.  I join the terrorist side and realize that I'm surrounded by "Nigger hating Jew" "Nigger Swing" "Hung Nig" "-_NickNig_-" and "BlackJesus".  Wow.  Just wow....  Before I can even log out, the chat is already filled with random and pointless racism and talk about "Yo, I'm gonna log out and smoke a bowl". 

I hit the next server and I don't see any racist names.  Well that is a start.  A few uneventful rounds go by and I'm low on cash.  I switch to pistols and armor, but apparently I'm not moving fast enough.  Over in-game voice I get "Move your ass you fucking stupid monkey nigger!".  Just wow...  I make some comments about keeping their pointless racist comments to themselves.  They really come out of the woodwork now and just lay into me with racist bullshit.  I disconnect.

I hit my third server of the night and apparently I've found a pot smoking clan.   Everyone's name is something like "Resin_Man" "Budz" or the like.  You can imagine that voice and text chat was all about how to use your pool cover to grow your own pot. 

Seriously.  What the hell?  Is everyone on the damned Internet a racist druggie??

I don't know about racist or biggotted (very different things), but I can tell you that the general online climate is one of extreme immaturity.  I've almost given up on online play these days.  Between the smack talkers, racists, porn talk and general lack of respect, I can't really put up with it much.

Names I've seen recently online: IFuxedURmom, NutsackHair, MelGibsonsCock, etc.

We must be getting old, our tolerance level for nonsense seems to grow thin as I age.

I couldn't agree more. I actually stopped, COMPLETELY STOPPED playing XBOX Live for a while about a year or so ago, because of the outright racism, general stupidity and wannabe machismo that was infesting almost every game.
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« Reply #30 on: August 31, 2006, 04:43:11 PM »

Quote from: Kobra on August 31, 2006, 03:23:52 PM

Speaking of internet assholes;

My 6 year old has been messing with the 3 day (lame short) trial for Toon Town Online.

He was learning the ropes, and in one of the games, had someone say "You suck and are a moron" to him.  I only found out today, when my son said "I am trying a new game, I hope nobody says I suck".

Even the kid games aren't free from Net-Idiots these days it seems.... <sigh>   Sounds like a new generation of Internet cocktards is being bred in the depths of the online kid games.  So its only going to get worse I bet.

Man that is really sad. Tell your kid to keep his chin up and ignore these people.

I also have a 6 year old and what scares me about him playing online stuff when he gets a little older is him losing his innocence (which children lost all too quickly now a days) because of all the profanity and selfishness of people online, who could care less about their behavior ruining the experience for others.
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« Reply #31 on: August 31, 2006, 07:30:12 PM »

I know how you feel KD.  I very rarely play MP games on the net anymore.  It's becoming too aggravating to even have fun.  I REALLY dislike the voice chat, so I will immediately turn it off, both on enabled PC games and 360 games.  9 times outta 10 it's not being used for anything but hateful/hurtful remarks.  When I was younger, I didn't care, but more and more I find myself having no patience for the junior high crowd.
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« Reply #32 on: September 01, 2006, 02:42:32 AM »

Quote from: CrayolaSmoker on August 31, 2006, 03:50:34 PM

Quote from: Kobra on August 31, 2006, 03:23:52 PM

Speaking of internet assholes;

My 6 year old has been messing with the 3 day (lame short) trial for Toon Town Online.

He was learning the ropes, and in one of the games, had someone say "You suck and are a moron" to him.  I only found out today, when my son said "I am trying a new game, I hope nobody says I suck".

Even the kid games aren't free from Net-Idiots these days it seems.... <sigh>   Sounds like a new generation of Internet cocktards is being bred in the depths of the online kid games.  So its only going to get worse I bet.

Really?  Back when the wife and I played only people in your buddy list could type text to one another.  To communicate with random folks you had to use the stock phrases built into the game.  Has that changed?

No clue, I haven't checked into it myself.. Unless my son gave someone his buddy code innocently? Who knows.. Eitherway, it was lame as fuck.
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« Reply #33 on: September 01, 2006, 03:57:53 AM »

Quote from: Interloper on August 31, 2006, 07:30:12 PM

I know how you feel KD.  I very rarely play MP games on the net anymore.  It's becoming too aggravating to even have fun.  I REALLY dislike the voice chat, so I will immediately turn it off, both on enabled PC games and 360 games.  9 times outta 10 it's not being used for anything but hateful/hurtful remarks.  When I was younger, I didn't care, but more and more I find myself having no patience for the junior high crowd.

That is what I like about games like Chromehounds with the Goonsquad though - we work together as a team and the chat channel is good.  It keeps me comin back.  Just expect comments like "Bitch betta have mah MONEY!" when I'm playin Saint's Row.  It is just bound to happen...
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« Reply #34 on: September 01, 2006, 04:09:37 AM »

Quote from: Kobra on September 01, 2006, 02:42:32 AM

Quote from: CrayolaSmoker on August 31, 2006, 03:50:34 PM

Quote from: Kobra on August 31, 2006, 03:23:52 PM

Speaking of internet assholes;

My 6 year old has been messing with the 3 day (lame short) trial for Toon Town Online.

He was learning the ropes, and in one of the games, had someone say "You suck and are a moron" to him.  I only found out today, when my son said "I am trying a new game, I hope nobody says I suck".

Even the kid games aren't free from Net-Idiots these days it seems.... <sigh>   Sounds like a new generation of Internet cocktards is being bred in the depths of the online kid games.  So its only going to get worse I bet.

Really?  Back when the wife and I played only people in your buddy list could type text to one another.  To communicate with random folks you had to use the stock phrases built into the game.  Has that changed?

No clue, I haven't checked into it myself.. Unless my son gave someone his buddy code innocently? Who knows.. Eitherway, it was lame as fuck.

Yeah, I was pretty sure that was one of the main draws of the game for parents/kids, it being a "safe" environment for them to play in.  Unless somebody has been approved they can only use pre-made emotes and sayings.  It is not simply something you can click sombody to be approved, you have to send a code to be entered outside the game.  You can read about it in this FAQ.
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« Reply #35 on: September 03, 2006, 03:39:34 PM »

Knightshade, the reasons you posted are exactly why I quit Xbox Live and stopped playing MMORPGs. I fear for America's future.
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« Reply #36 on: September 03, 2006, 04:05:53 PM »

Whenever there is a chance for anonymity and an audience people will do some retarded tings.

Just remeber before these voice thingies, we had BBS's and internet chat rooms.

There has always been morons... Just a lot easier for em all to get online nowadays
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« Reply #37 on: September 03, 2006, 05:26:49 PM »

Maybe it's because I'm younger (21) and have been playing online games for a long time, but that stuff doesn't really bother me for the most part.  I just mentally tune it out (whether voice or text).  Of course, for the last year or so my online play has been mostly limited to WoW and that stuff doesn't pop up too much there.
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« Reply #38 on: September 05, 2006, 10:40:12 PM »

You're lucky, you dont have to live right next door to one of those little bastards. So many rascist comments and so very loud.
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« Reply #39 on: September 05, 2006, 11:57:56 PM »

Racist or bigotted?  It is a pet peeve of mine how people intermix them when they are clearly SEPERATE things.

Everyone to some extent, is bigotted.  If you have a preference of people you like to be around, then you can be bigotted.

Racism is narrowly defined as believing one race is superior than another.  It has nothing to do with having a dislike for a particular race, in that case, the person is a bigot.

I know racism is a "Catchy" and risky sounding phrase that seems to carry a bit scarrier of a sound, but please, most people aren't racist, its bigotry.

Finally, I live near Detroit, you want bigotted?  Go down there, I swear 90% of that city has a severe dislike towards anything "White" or with a shade of white.  Bigots come in all shapes, colors and sizes and aren't restricted to one particular race. White people have NOTHING to be ashamed about and need to stop running around with their tails between their legs everytime someone lazy and unintelligent screams out "Racist!".
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