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« on: April 25, 2016, 09:15:16 PM »

So begins a new season!  This one brings with it the excitement that it is more or less unbound from the books.  As much as previous seasons took liberties, I think this is the point chronologically where it pretty much has covered all the main book material and has to strike out on its own.

So, a pretty good episode all around, but I think we really needed/deserved a 2 hour premiere.  Arya barely had any screen time and Sam, Bran and others weren't seen at all.  In fact it kind of felt like every major character was only given a minute or two to catch up.

I'm not sure what to think about Jon.  I was hoping he would roll underneath a nearby garbage dump  icon_wink or Ghost would save him or that Red lady would do something useful.  She did say her vision saw him fighting in Winterfell, so that's still some hope for some form of resurrection.  I have no idea what that creepy true form was all about, but it didn't seem to involve Jon, unless she was going to allow herself to die and merge her soul with his or something like that.

I enjoyed seeing Brienne and my boy Podrick rescue Sansa, and I'm hoping she (Sansa) will start stepping it up a bit in terms of not being a whiny little bitch.  I just found out she is the new (young) Jean Grey so I'm expecting bigger and better things from her. 
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« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2016, 10:05:33 PM »

IMO, the issue of screen time for characters has been a problem for quite some time. It's simply impossible to give enough room for everyone to develop in hour long episodes, so often the flow of the show jumps all over the place. A side effect of that is it's really hard to figure out how much time is passing from event to event or even from character arc to character arc. I love the show, but really the episodes need to be 90 to 120 minutes.

I really loved the moment where Brienne pledged her service to Sansa. She and Podrick have been chasing after her for so long it was nice to finally see that resolution. All those people who were mean and cruel to Sansa are going to get their fill of angry Brienne.

It was a good intro episode to the season, although it didn't feel like much happened.
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« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2016, 06:13:14 PM »

No comments at all??? Come on people!!!!!

Honestly not much of a surprise, but it was nice to see it finally done so that we can now see how it plays out story-wise. 

On a side note, I really think they did themselves a disservice by not combining this episode with last week's for the premiere, I think it would have made for an awesome 2-hour premiere.  Not that the content itself suffered, but just piecing everything that happened together into one episode would have been a masterpiece.
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« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2016, 06:32:46 PM »

I was a bit surprised that the big event happened so soon. I sort of expected it to be in the season finale but I guess that's the result of my own cynicism regarding the Walking Dead finale.

Anyhow, a good episode, but I was really thrown for a loop by the revisiting of Theon's  sister and dad. It's been so long since the show had anything to do with that area that it took a moment to figure out where that was. Even more disorienting was the confrontation on the rope bridge. Apparently the guy who tossed dad into the seas was Theon's brother. I didn't recognize him at all and I don't recall seeing him in any prior episodes. Maybe those of you familiar with the books can elaborate on this because I was highly confused.

The Bolton boy's sadistic ruthlessness knows no bounds.

I am ready to see Jamie run his sword through Jonathan Pryce's gut.

I really enjoyed Tyrion's scene with the dragons and the CGI actually looked good.
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« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2016, 07:16:24 PM »

Quote from: Jimmy the Fish on May 02, 2016, 06:32:46 PM

Even more disorienting was the confrontation on the rope bridge. Apparently the guy who tossed dad into the seas was Theon's brother. I didn't recognize him at all and I don't recall seeing him in any prior episodes.
The guy on the bridge was actually Balon's (the king's) younger brother, who we haven't been told even existed before that point. Theon's brothers were all killed in the big war. That's why Theon being taken to Winterfell as a child was such a big deal. They took away Balon's only remaining son and male heir as further punishment for his role in the past rebellion.
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« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2016, 09:05:59 PM »

Thanks for the explanation. No wonder I was so confused. That was such an out of left field moment for me.
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« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2016, 04:50:44 PM »

War of the Five Kings was what we've seen.  Robb, the Baratheons, Joffrey, and Balon.  Balon lost his sons near a decade prior to the start of the series in his solo rebellion, crushed by Robert, Stannis, and Ned. 
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« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2016, 07:16:04 PM »

Quote from: Isgrimnur on May 03, 2016, 04:50:44 PM

War of the Five Kings was what we've seen.  Robb, the Baratheons, Joffrey, and Balon.  Balon lost his sons near a decade prior to the start of the series in his solo rebellion, crushed by Robert, Stannis, and Ned. 

And of course Theon was a hostage taken by Ned from Balon.  Also wasn't the man telling Theon's sister that she wasn't the leader yet also another brother of Balon?  I remember there was a strict hard core priest in the books who was Theon's uncle.
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« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2016, 02:37:08 AM »

Quote from: Isgrimnur on May 03, 2016, 04:50:44 PM

War of the Five Kings was what we've seen.  Robb, the Baratheons, Joffrey, and Balon.  Balon lost his sons near a decade prior to the start of the series in his solo rebellion, crushed by Robert, Stannis, and Ned. 
You are correct...fixed my post!
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« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2016, 04:42:47 PM »

Quote from: Zinfan on May 03, 2016, 07:16:04 PM

Also wasn't the man telling Theon's sister that she wasn't the leader yet also another brother of Balon?  I remember there was a strict hard core priest in the books who was Theon's uncle.

Yup, priest Aeron Greyjoy, The Damphair. 
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« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2016, 08:15:35 AM »

All Its Seasons Are Awesome...!
Such A Wonderful Series... icon_twisted
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« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2016, 05:19:22 PM »

Spoiler for Hiden:
THIS GIRL IS ON FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Spectacular conclusion to last night's episode.

This season is so wonderful in the sense that the writers/producers are finally unshackled by George R R Martin's slow-ass pacing.  Main characters allowed to interact!! Plot advancement and movement!!  Blasphemy!! 

The books are my favorite series of all time but I've long grown weary hearing all the excuses about artistry or whatever, it's taken too freaking damn long.  Seriously do you think if he actually needed the income it would take 5-6 years to finish a single book?  Anyway, one of us is going to be dead before he finishes, most likely me.  Happily now I only need to survive 2-3 years to see how the story told in the TV series ends.   Tongue
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« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2016, 05:25:47 PM »

The show is great but suffers from too many story lines trying to advance in a 10 episode arc.  No Arya?  No Dragons?  and worst of all
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Osha comes back and Ramsey offs her in two seconds, I loved her character in the books and it is sad to see her go out so quickly and with no real impact on the story
.  I also don't care for the whole High Sparrow story but we do see lots of pieces starting to move at last.
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« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2016, 05:33:17 PM »

Quote from: Zinfan on May 16, 2016, 05:25:47 PM

The show is great but suffers from too many story lines trying to advance in a 10 episode arc.  No Arya?  No Dragons?  and worst of all
Spoiler for Hiden:
Osha comes back and Ramsey offs her in two seconds, I loved her character in the books and it is sad to see her go out so quickly and with no real impact on the story
.  I also don't care for the whole High Sparrow story but we do see lots of pieces starting to move at last.

I think what we're seeing is that they tried as best they could to include as much as possible from the books.  Maybe due to respect for the material/author, and/or to fill each season up with content.  They likely had faith that George would tie it all together but it seems fairly clear now that even as a book series, it's just over-bloated with extra characters and plotlines.  So now the producers are kind of forced to speed up certain storylines (and eliminate side characters) in order to complete everything. 

I presumed the dragons were coming last ep to save Dany but I love what they did in place of that.  What a show of power.  And boobies.
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« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2016, 06:36:59 PM »

Rumors of her refusal to do more nude scenes was greatly exaggerated:

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But before any assumptions are made about Clarke’s participation in the scene, there’s something the actress wants everybody to know. “I’d like to remind people the last time I took my clothes off was season 3,” she says. “That was awhile ago. It’s now season 6. But this is all me, all proud, all strong. I’m just feeling genuinely happy I said ‘Yes.’ That ain’t no body double!”

The production took pains to shoot Clarke’s portion of the scene on a private “closed set” in Belfast, while the rest of the sequence with the Dothraki actors was shot at the Vaes Dothrak village set constructed in the desert in Spain. Clarke said the set-up was preferable to, for instance, when Dany’s clothes were scorched off at the end of season 1. “Taking off my clothes is not the easiest thing, but with the magic of the effects, I don’t have to do a season 1 and go on a cliff and do it,” she notes. “I’m in control of it.”
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It’s easy to understand why Clarke is being proactive and open about her feelings about the scene. Thrones actress Oona Chaplin once claimed an actress on the hit show didn’t like doing nude scenes (which some outlets just assumed was Clarke). Then last year a tabloid report claimed Clarke said she didn’t like doing sex scenes – which Clarke took to Instagram to correct.

“It’s difficult to be misquoted and it’s nice to have something like Instagram to say the truth,” Clarke says. “How many times has [Daario actor] Michiel Huisman been asked about the fact he’s taken his clothes off a bunch? Is that even a discussion? No. So I’m doing it this year and people can talk about it and I’m ready to answer any questions about it, basically.”
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« Reply #15 on: May 23, 2016, 08:46:36 AM »

Sweet mercy, that was a fucking awesome episode. I'm crying.
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« Reply #16 on: May 23, 2016, 12:45:11 PM »

Holy crap, origin and end all in the same episode... and rhetorical question in this 'verse but is no-one safe? Figured they were pretty well f**ked but wasn't expecting that. And what was up with the killing of a White Walker with what I thought was just a crappy little spear? Valerian steel tip? Made by The Children for that purpose? Was shocked when she chucked it and it actually worked. eek
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« Reply #17 on: May 23, 2016, 01:16:59 PM »

Quote from: MonkeyFinger on May 23, 2016, 12:45:11 PM

Holy crap, origin and end all in the same episode... and rhetorical question in this 'verse but is no-one safe? Figured they were pretty well f**ked but wasn't expecting that. And what was up with the killing of a White Walker with what I thought was just a crappy little spear? Valerian steel tip? Made by The Children for that purpose? Was shocked when she chucked it and it actually worked. eek

Dragon glass tip.
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« Reply #18 on: May 23, 2016, 03:56:24 PM »

Quote from: forgeforsaken on May 23, 2016, 01:16:59 PM

Quote from: MonkeyFinger on May 23, 2016, 12:45:11 PM

Holy crap, origin and end all in the same episode... and rhetorical question in this 'verse but is no-one safe? Figured they were pretty well f**ked but wasn't expecting that. And what was up with the killing of a White Walker with what I thought was just a crappy little spear? Valerian steel tip? Made by The Children for that purpose? Was shocked when she chucked it and it actually worked. eek

Dragon glass tip.

The same thing happened with Sam when he killed one of the White Walkers beyond the wall. The thing (dragonglass) that made them White Walkers also unmakes them I guess.
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« Reply #19 on: May 24, 2016, 02:45:53 AM »

Ah crap... I figured there was something critical to the answer that I was forgetting... that darn dragon glass. D'oh. Thanks for the head slap, fellas.  retard
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« Reply #20 on: June 20, 2016, 12:44:02 PM »

Last nights episode  eek
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« Reply #21 on: June 20, 2016, 07:35:44 PM »

Quote from: Mystic95Z on June 20, 2016, 12:44:02 PM

Last nights episode  eek

That was awesome from beginning to end.  Some of the best dragon effects I've seen in any media ever.  And then that war battle, wow.

I might have said it before, but I have to wonder how George RR Martin feels these days.  On the one hand it must be incredibly exciting to see such awesome content come to life.  But on the other I can't imagine how bittersweet it is to have all these massive plot points and reveals he's held in his pocket for over 20 years being revealed by someone else.  I really thought that alone would have motivated him to get his ass in gear and finish, but at this point he might as well just take his time and finish the series in 2030 lol.
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« Reply #22 on: June 20, 2016, 08:14:59 PM »

Quote from: rittchard on June 20, 2016, 07:35:44 PM

Quote from: Mystic95Z on June 20, 2016, 12:44:02 PM

Last nights episode  eek

That was awesome from beginning to end.  Some of the best dragon effects I've seen in any media ever.  And then that war battle, wow.

I might have said it before, but I have to wonder how George RR Martin feels these days.  On the one hand it must be incredibly exciting to see such awesome content come to life.  But on the other I can't imagine how bittersweet it is to have all these massive plot points and reveals he's held in his pocket for over 20 years being revealed by someone else.  I really thought that alone would have motivated him to get his ass in gear and finish, but at this point he might as well just take his time and finish the series in 2030 lol.


How weird is it going to be when the books continue to diverge from the show?
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« Reply #23 on: June 20, 2016, 11:03:29 PM »

Hands down, the best and most satisfying episode of the entire run of the series so far.
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« Reply #24 on: June 23, 2016, 09:11:30 PM »

Finally got a chance to watch last week's episode.  At first I was put off by the length of the battle scenes but in the end it made the finish more impactful.  I will say that Sansa is rising up to the top of my favorite chars now (but can't surpass Arya!) and I like to believe she played Snow and Ramsey both.  Her look when the reinforcements arrive sold me as well as the small smile as she walks away at the end of the episode.
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« Reply #25 on: Today at 04:44:17 PM »

Best episode of the series!
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