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« Reply #40 on: May 23, 2008, 02:31:14 PM »

Very interested to see where they go with that.  There is still three more books of material to draw from but the second film closed the book on the series in a way that the books don't.  I wonder if they'll stick with their original intention to make Dusk Watch a US film showing the American watches or if they'll focus on the Moscow watch again (personally I hope it's the latter). 
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« Reply #41 on: May 23, 2008, 03:01:48 PM »

The Straight Story is another overlooked gem, from David Lynch. "Alvin Straight is a very old man with a quiet life in a small country town. When his brother gets seriously sick, he decides to put away their differences and visit him after many, many years. So, alone, he begins a long journey through hundreds of miles, just to see again his brother, even if it's the last thing he will ever do... Based on a real story." He makes this pilgrimage on a riding lawnmower.
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« Reply #42 on: May 23, 2008, 03:28:30 PM »

Quote from: El-Producto on May 23, 2008, 01:00:54 PM

Kids Indie film which follows Telly, an HIV infected skateboarder and his posse around New York.  Shocking, and real. 
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0113540/

Real or not, I found Kids rather disgusting.  Seemed closer to underage porn than an actual movie.
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« Reply #43 on: May 23, 2008, 03:32:29 PM »

Quote from: El-Producto on May 23, 2008, 01:00:54 PM

Alright, as an ex film-snob I'll give my choices, which will mostly be horror as that is my genre of choice.

Re-animator  Amazing gore-fest comedy, based on lovecraft.  
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0089885/

Black Sabbath A trio of atmospheric horror tales, by the Italian master of horror. http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0057603/

Suspiria Italy's other master of horror serves up an atmospheric thriller, about a coven of witches masquerading as a ballet academy.  Some of the best Giallo inspired death scenes ever.
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0076786/

Ils A French stalker film with an amazing soundscape which is one of the most tense movies you will ever see.  If you can get through this without taking a break, I couldn't.  
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0465203/

There are tons more, especially horror.  One of the reasons I love the horror genre, is that there are so many films from so many different countries to explore.  Even the bad one's usually have some redeeming quality.

El_Producto, I like your choice of films there. Make sure to stop by Horror-101.com from time to time. All we do is talk about interesting horror flicks. I think you'll enjoy the site. And, oh, I need to see 'Iils'.
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« Reply #44 on: May 23, 2008, 04:06:47 PM »

Quote from: Gratch on May 23, 2008, 03:28:30 PM

Quote from: El-Producto on May 23, 2008, 01:00:54 PM

Kids Indie film which follows Telly, an HIV infected skateboarder and his posse around New York.  Shocking, and real. 
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0113540/

Real or not, I found Kids rather disgusting.  Seemed closer to underage porn than an actual movie.

I really like that movie... and no, it's not real:

ChloŽ Sevigny ...  Jennie
Rosario Dawson ...  Ruby
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« Reply #45 on: May 23, 2008, 04:47:18 PM »

Quote from: PR_GMR on May 23, 2008, 03:32:29 PM

Quote from: El-Producto on May 23, 2008, 01:00:54 PM

Alright, as an ex film-snob I'll give my choices, which will mostly be horror as that is my genre of choice.

Re-animator  Amazing gore-fest comedy, based on lovecraft.  
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0089885/

Black Sabbath A trio of atmospheric horror tales, by the Italian master of horror. http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0057603/

Suspiria Italy's other master of horror serves up an atmospheric thriller, about a coven of witches masquerading as a ballet academy.  Some of the best Giallo inspired death scenes ever.
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0076786/

Ils A French stalker film with an amazing soundscape which is one of the most tense movies you will ever see.  If you can get through this without taking a break, I couldn't.  
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0465203/

There are tons more, especially horror.  One of the reasons I love the horror genre, is that there are so many films from so many different countries to explore.  Even the bad one's usually have some redeeming quality.

El_Producto, I like your choice of films there. Make sure to stop by Horror-101.com from time to time. All we do is talk about interesting horror flicks. I think you'll enjoy the site. And, oh, I need to see 'Iils'.

I go to that site quite often.. I didn't realize you were connected.. cool!

Another enjoyable "torture porn" flick, that nobody seems to have seen was Storm Warning.  Some really creative death scenes.  http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0800367/
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« Reply #46 on: May 23, 2008, 04:48:59 PM »

Quote from: tjg_marantz on May 23, 2008, 04:06:47 PM

Quote from: Gratch on May 23, 2008, 03:28:30 PM

Quote from: El-Producto on May 23, 2008, 01:00:54 PM

Kids Indie film which follows Telly, an HIV infected skateboarder and his posse around New York.  Shocking, and real. 
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0113540/

Real or not, I found Kids rather disgusting.  Seemed closer to underage porn than an actual movie.

I really like that movie... and no, it's not real:

ChloŽ Sevigny ...  Jennie
Rosario Dawson ...  Ruby

By real I just meant that it was almost docudrama style.  The characters were very believable.. I understand most of it was improvised.

It's not for everyone, when I saw it at a film festival half the people walked out through the movie.  I've watched it probably upwards of 10 times.. it's really effective.
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« Reply #47 on: May 23, 2008, 04:49:26 PM »

Quote from: Gratch on May 23, 2008, 03:28:30 PM

Quote from: El-Producto on May 23, 2008, 01:00:54 PM

Kids Indie film which follows Telly, an HIV infected skateboarder and his posse around New York.  Shocking, and real. 
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0113540/

Real or not, I found Kids rather disgusting.  Seemed closer to underage porn than an actual movie.

Do teenagers not have sex?
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« Reply #48 on: May 23, 2008, 07:58:54 PM »

Quote from: El-Producto on May 23, 2008, 01:00:54 PM

Suspiria Italy's other master of horror serves up an atmospheric thriller, about a coven of witches masquerading as a ballet academy.  Some of the best Giallo inspired death scenes ever.
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0076786/

I happened to watch that last night. The DVD quality was pretty awful but it was still a very effecting film. Fantastic imagery and use of colours, especially in the house, which reminded me a little of Kubrick at times. The scene with the blind man was brilliantly done also, definitely wasn't expecting it to go the way it did. Great music too.

Apparently it's part of a trilogy with Inferno being the second one and The Mother of Tears (which is being released on 6/6) the last. Here's the trailer.
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« Reply #49 on: May 23, 2008, 09:23:06 PM »

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« Reply #50 on: May 23, 2008, 10:09:55 PM »

Gattaca - real science fiction - lower budget, so science fantasy fans need not apply
Before Sunrise - more Ethan Hawke - lots of talky-talky, but this movie is probably the origin of my Julie Delpy crush
Better Off Dead - kicked off John Cusack's starring career with a newspaperboy and a Howard Cosell impersonation - incredibly off the wall comedy
(lots more John Cusack movies)
Red Rock West - the original 90's film noir
The Last Seduction - more 90's film noir - same director as Red Rock West
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« Reply #51 on: May 25, 2008, 06:35:45 PM »

Quote from: PeteRock on May 22, 2008, 09:10:47 PM

Recently Moliere suggested a handful of films and I should receive them sometime next week from BestBuy.com (You Move You Die, Stickmen, and The Salton Sea).  I am hoping others can share some suggestions that I may have missed, or may not even know about.  They don't have to be critically acclaimed or fit within any particular genre (as made apparent by my own list), and I'm open to all sorts of suggestions.  I'm mainly just looking for lesser-known, quality films no one has heard of.
Besides repeating the 3 above I will include these on my list:

Christian Bale in The Machinist about a man that hasn't slept in a year. He went from 180 lbs to 120 lbs for the role and then had to gain it back in time for Batman Begins.

Swing Kids about teenagers not respecting the authoritah of the Nazis by dancing to illegal music.

Things to Do in Denver When You're Dead is a classic with a ton of great scenes and actors.

Requiem for a Dream

Hard Eight or "Sydney" for all you non-Americans

Even Money a great movie about gambling addictions

The Legend of 1900 Tim Roth plays a piano prodigy that has lived his entire life on a cruise ship.
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« Reply #52 on: May 25, 2008, 11:15:04 PM »

I wouldn`t really say "Requiem for a dream" belongs on the list, have always had the feeling it is pretty well known.

As for me I`d include :

"Nordrand" by Barbara Albert
"Sunshine" by Istvan Zabo (spelling)
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« Reply #53 on: May 26, 2008, 12:50:01 AM »

Quote from: Moliere on May 25, 2008, 06:35:45 PM

Quote from: PeteRock on May 22, 2008, 09:10:47 PM

Recently Moliere suggested a handful of films and I should receive them sometime next week from BestBuy.com (You Move You Die, Stickmen, and The Salton Sea).  I am hoping others can share some suggestions that I may have missed, or may not even know about.  They don't have to be critically acclaimed or fit within any particular genre (as made apparent by my own list), and I'm open to all sorts of suggestions.  I'm mainly just looking for lesser-known, quality films no one has heard of.
Besides repeating the 3 above I will include these on my list:

Christian Bale in The Machinist about a man that hasn't slept in a year. He went from 180 lbs to 120 lbs for the role and then had to gain it back in time for Batman Begins.

Swing Kids about teenagers not respecting the authoritah of the Nazis by dancing to illegal music.

Things to Do in Denver When You're Dead is a classic with a ton of great scenes and actors.

Requiem for a Dream

Hard Eight or "Sydney" for all you non-Americans

Even Money a great movie about gambling addictions

The Legend of 1900 Tim Roth plays a piano prodigy that has lived his entire life on a cruise ship.

The Salton Sea is a good movie. For some more Val Kilmer love I would recommend Wonderland.

The Machinist is also very good. That movie and American Pyscho are two Christian Bale movies that seem to get forgotten. He was an awesome actor before Batman which gets a lot of geek love. I know I am in the minority when I say that The New World was the best movie he has been in.

About other movies mentioned in this thread:

Night Watch and Day Watch. I liked the first one but thought the second was far too confusing and I couldn't follow what was going on. Plus there was no Tiger Cub in the second one. If she isn't in the third one I won't watch it.

Brick. I did not like this movie. For a good Joseph Gordon-Levitt movie rent The Lookout.

The OP's movies I am split 50/50 of the ones I enjoyed. I liked Equilibrium, Layer Cake, True Romance, Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, and Bubba Ho-Tep. I never saw Spartan and I added that to my Netflix queue. The others I did not like. Ong-Bak brought some new things to the martial arts movies with some cool scenes but there have been better and better made martial arts movies. Tigerland I see few redeeming qualities. Colin Farrell is good but I just wanted this movie to end.  Ghost Dog I believe was one of the first forum movie society titles that maybe dates back to Gone Gold. I thought it was merely OK back then and I don't think my opinion would change today if I rewatched that movie. Boondock Saints is another I never understood the fanboyism.
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« Reply #54 on: May 26, 2008, 02:32:06 AM »

Quote from: mori on May 26, 2008, 12:50:01 AM

Night Watch and Day Watch. I liked the first one but thought the second was far too confusing and I couldn't follow what was going on. Plus there was no Tiger Cub in the second one. If she isn't in the third one I won't watch it.

Actually, Tiger Cub *is* in it.  Just one scene though, I think, and it's a non-speaking part. 
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« Reply #55 on: May 26, 2008, 03:21:32 AM »

I loved Brick but I love that style of hard-edged, fast talking detective noir. It's not tough to "get" the central conceit of the film, but you either like it or you don't. My Fair Lady lasted half an hour before saying it was the stupidest thing she'd seen and leaving the room. I watched the rest of it and flat loved it.

Equilibrium I think is vastly overrated though entertaining as a low-tech, low-budget film with large ambitions.
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« Reply #56 on: May 26, 2008, 04:18:53 AM »

Quote from: whiteboyskim on May 26, 2008, 03:21:32 AM

I loved Brick but I love that style of hard-edged, fast talking detective noir. It's not tough to "get" the central conceit of the film, but you either like it or you don't. My Fair Lady lasted half an hour before saying it was the stupidest thing she'd seen and leaving the room. I watched the rest of it and flat loved it.

Equilibrium I think is vastly overrated though entertaining as a low-tech, low-budget film with large ambitions.

Brick had a good story but the dialogue drove me nuts.
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« Reply #57 on: May 26, 2008, 04:46:13 AM »

I really enjoy sci/fi, and have a passion for finding good sci-fi that never made it to theatures. These direct to video stories when done well,  seem to reflect my experince as a sci-fi reader more than the blockbuster titles that make the summer run every year. So finding a good mini series, direct to video, or import is viewing heaven for me. I actually keep a list of all the watchable sci-fi I've seen and make a point to scan for it in my netflix queue (as well as keep an eye for the Independant film festivals). I get a real kick to put the best of them on in the background when having a party. A movie like Immortal or Perfect creature usually draws in a few people watching the movie with no sound...I always get a kick out of that! smile

I also yearn for a good monster movie. Not the isolated group terrorized by supernatural creature dreck hollywood likes churning out but a honest to goodness rampaging destruction themed story. American movie makers seem to avoid these like the plague except for a few notable exceptions. These movies tend to grab me as when they are done well they become almost sci-fi, putting characters into impossible situations and challanges and seeing where that experince takes you, also creating a living and detailed world then decunstructing it, can be fun! Most directors don't really explore that like sci-fi writers tend to do. 

Also want to point out, while popular media like to classify zombies, werewolves, and other monsters as horror, I really consider it sci-fi if they make they're scope of story more rampaging or transparent to the world the story is set in. As a result you may see a few of those on my list!

My top 10  list:

Bubba Ho Tep
Imposter
Cypher
Time Quest
The Man from Earth
Equilibrium
Perfect Creature
Fido
The Cold Equation
The Last Winter

Runner Ups:
The Deaths of Ian Stone
Deterrence
Kung Fu Hustle
Perfect Creature
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« Reply #58 on: May 26, 2008, 03:38:05 PM »

davidf if you haven't seen Sunshine (2007) yet I think it would be right up your alley based on post.
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« Reply #59 on: May 26, 2008, 05:05:27 PM »

Running Time

An unblinking look (no camera angle changes, seamless transitions so that it's like you're watching a hand recording) at a guy who leaves prison to rob right after his time out.

~45 minutes of some of the best Bruce Campbell ever.
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« Reply #60 on: May 26, 2008, 05:25:11 PM »

Quote from: wonderpug on May 26, 2008, 03:38:05 PM

davidf if you haven't seen Sunshine (2007) yet I think it would be right up your alley based on post.

I really enjoyed Sunshine, till 2/3 the way through, where I flet it really jumped the shark! I still enjoyed it, and think its a great movie, especially one that made it to the theatures.

I also list Donnie Darko among my favorites, although it did become a phenom after it went to video, so can't technically include it on my list.
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« Reply #61 on: May 26, 2008, 06:23:02 PM »

Quote from: davidf on May 26, 2008, 05:25:11 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on May 26, 2008, 03:38:05 PM

davidf if you haven't seen Sunshine (2007) yet I think it would be right up your alley based on post.

I really enjoyed Sunshine, till 2/3 the way through, where I flet it really jumped the shark! I still enjoyed it, and think its a great movie, especially one that made it to the theatures.

See I'm surprised you didn't like the post-shark jumping part of the film.  The way you described your yearning for monster movies with a sci-fi slant I thought you'd be one of the few that could handle the shark jump. slywink
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« Reply #62 on: May 26, 2008, 11:05:31 PM »

Again, rampaging monsters wrecking havoc across the city world.... LOVE!!! Rampaging monsters in a isolated space with a captive victim pool, ...bleh...too formula.

Sunshine was this great sci-fi flix, intelligent, thoughtful, thought provoking, visually stunning.... then the final act degrades into standard horror slasher with a possibly supernatural monster??? What a waste!

If they had kept on message and dealt with the pure challange and pitfuls of life on earth resting on you and the impact it has on the characters responsible, this would probably surplanted 2001 and every other sci-fi movie made for doing something truely remarkable. As is, its a amazing premise, that degrades into hollywood formula dreck at the end.

My taste has resulted in some anomlies, I have to admit. I actually enjoyed the second AVP more than the first. Just because I really liked the premise of a town under siege and rampaging aliens! I also liked the marines...sorry national guard geting into the fray. The closest it's gotten to my recollection of the novels (which I enjoyed).

The first AVP was really almost formula, in the sense that the cast is cut off from the world. I tend to get annoyed with those types of movies, as they do it so often now! Heck its standard fare for sci-fi channel movies! So, I tend to give the rampaging monster in a world/city more latitude, since western movie makers do it so rarely...

I also give TC's War of the Worlds a lot of credit, it was one of the few movies that even attempted to show the impacts of a collapsing society as it's dismantled by impossible forces, also showing how people react to it in various ways. I know a lot of people dismiss this movie, but it did explore elements rarely seen outside of a decent sci-fi novel!
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« Reply #63 on: May 27, 2008, 12:03:38 AM »

I watched Revolver last night and it really isn't like his other two films or Layer Cake.  The style is the same but the concept is a bit deep actually, a bit of a mind fuck as to what he is trying to tell the viewer.  I watched a bunch of the extras and started watching the movie again after viewing the extras but with the commentary on and Ritchie said he went on to shoot a documentary based on the psychology behind the films concept, it's supposed to be on some website of his to watch.  I pulled this tiny bit off of wikipedia that kind of gives you an idea of the concept behind the film, the wiki article pretty much spoils the entire movie though.

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the greatest trick that [ego] ever pulled was making you believe that he is you". This is seen to be the 'ultimate con', in that no-one wants to sever their connection with their ego, because they refuse to challenge their own life-long investment in it.

Here is a comment from a viewer I read on some other site this morning.

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The movie is about your ego. Your ego is made up of ideas that you have gathered together by the time you were 5 years old. These ideas are what you believe to be you. When in fact they are not. Since you believe these ideas are you. You believe that the voice in your head that is telling you what to do is you. When in fact they are nothing more than a bunch of ideas. Your ego is not you. Therefore, the ego does not exist. Yet, it will rule you until you understand that your Ego is not you. Then and only then will the real you control your life. Until then you are nothing more than a puppet jumping to the whims of your ego. This is a head-trip I know, but if you watch the movie until the credits begin. You will see Chopra and others give you the answers to the whole movie. Afterwards if you watch it again you will get the movie.

My problem with the movie was just like many others have said you won't know what you've seen until you watch it again but the concept itself I didn't find fascinating enough to finish doing that.  Even an interview with Ritchie on the disc the interviewer says he has seen the movie 5 times and understands it more each time but didn't really start to understand the pivotal scene until after seeing it a second time.  I'm sure it is a very good movie and I enjoyed the direction of the movie but I think Ritchie had a problem in that he wanted to make a movie about this concept but he couldn't come right out and explain it within the normal confines of a movie so you end up with some kind of Fight Club/M. Night Shyamalan mind fuck of a film that isn't satisfying but with some cool action and acting scenes.
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« Reply #64 on: May 27, 2008, 09:29:24 PM »

District B13: Decent... not nearly as much fun action as I was expecting, but I enjoyed it.

Layer Cake: Great movie.

Equilibrium: Totally ridiculous, but pretty fun in a popcorn sort of way.

Boondock Saints: Totally overrated.

True Romance: It's got some good moments... Slater wears though.  Definitely mainstream.

Bubba Ho-Tep: Horribly overrated piece of crap.  I don't get why nerds have such a hard on for anything with Bruce Campbell.

Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang: LOVE this movie.  Fantastic dialog.

Spartan: I was a little let down by this because it sounded so awesome, but I still enjoyed it quite a bit.  Kind of fizzles out...

Brick: Really, really enjoyable movie.  I own this and watch it regularly.  Kind of silly if you don't get it, really good fun with great dialog if you do.  Man, I might have to watch this tonight.

Zero Effect: Thought this was a good one.  Good Pullman.  Unlike 'While You Were Sleeping.' Bad Pullman.

Reanimator: Great.

Kids: Crap.

Suspiria: Seriously creepy.

Repo Man: Punk rock classic.  But kind of shitty.

Ronin: Skylander, are you really talking about the DeNiro movie?  Because that's pretty damn mainstream.


Some of my picks, some of which might be pretty commonly watched around here:

The Apostle: Great movie for Robert Duvall fans... a southern preacher with a temper beats his wife's lover into a coma w/ a baseball bat... on a little league field... the then flees and looks for his own redemption...

Buffalo Soldiers: One of Joaquin Phoenix's better performances, in my book... he's a black market hustler in the end of the cold war Berlin... features Anna Paquin in her underpants... so that's good.

The Machinist: The only Christian Bale performance I've thought was really outstanding... a guy who hasn't slept in a year. He lost an idiotic amount of weight for the role.

Bloody Sunday: A pretty remarkable piece of film making from Paul Greengrass who went on to direct the later Bourne movies...

American Movie: A really funny, sort of not funny movie about a midwest loser trying to make horror movies... documentary... excellent.

That's all I can think of right now...
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« Reply #65 on: June 08, 2008, 12:33:29 AM »

Right_at_Your_Door:

You know how Cloverfield is basically a Godzilla movie told from the point of view of the people on the street?  And it benefits from that different perspective, since those movies are always done from the point of view of the scientists and/or government.  Well, Right At Your Door is the equivalent of that for terrorism based movies and tv shows(like 24).  It's a story about a terrorist attack on Los Angeles, told from of the point of view of regular people in one household, not government agents or terrorists or an entire town like in Jericho.

It is very low budget, so you don't get epic scenes of carnage.  It also takes place mostly in one location, it could almost be done as a play in that respect  No 28 Days/28 Weeks Later scale here.   But the director manages to still create a pretty good atmosphere of "oh crap, LA is toast!"

Plus, if you're like me and you really enjoy stories that make you wonder "what would I do if I was caught in that situation?"- this is a movie for you.
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