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« on: November 17, 2004, 05:52:33 AM »

http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,65704,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_2

Music and Movie companies are trying to stamp out the last vestiges of Fair Use during the off season.  Write you Senators now!
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« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2004, 06:29:44 AM »

I dont pay attention to them now why would I then. If I want to download and have Tivo like ability Ill geta tv turner card and software that lets me.
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« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2004, 07:16:45 AM »

Ahh crap.  I'll stop watching tv if I can't have my TIVO fast forward through commercials.
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« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2004, 01:31:40 PM »

I generally think it's a good idea to protect IP. The bootlegging of music, movies and software has gotten completely out of hand to the point where people seem to expect that downloading something rather than paying for it is their right and privledge.

But telling me I can't skip the previews on a DVD or the commercials on TiVo is out of control. I've sent my comments to Schumer/Clinton and asked them to defeat this legislation.

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« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2004, 02:35:54 PM »

Most of this applies to the peer to peer stuff as far as I read from clicking on the link to the amendment in the article.  I couldn't find anything on not being allowed to skip previews/commericals within it.  But I confess after a while my eyes started bleeding from the legalese.  Anyone else read it and find that section?  (Not saying it isn't there, but I could not find it)
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« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2004, 02:40:03 PM »

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But telling me I can't skip the previews on a DVD or the commercials on TiVo is out of control. I've sent my comments to Schumer/Clinton and asked them to defeat this legislation.

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Yeah, because those two asshats really listen to the public. slywink

I also like how the RIAA defends ANYTHING that gives them more control. While I can appreciate the need to protect copyrighted materials, not letting me skip previews on a DVD that I already purchased is just stupid. I've read up on some, but not all, of the things that were lumped together in this bill, and I disagree with most of it.
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« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2004, 03:34:49 PM »

You could feasibly extend this to say fast-forwarding AT ALL would be illegal, as that would allow you to bypass the myriad of product placements that are found in films & TV shows.
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« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2004, 06:52:39 PM »

I think Ill sue cable tv....I pay about $100 a month for my cable service and it is filled with commercial which should'nt be there since im paying for it.
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« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2004, 07:51:16 PM »

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Most of this applies to the peer to peer stuff as far as I read from clicking on the link to the amendment in the article.  I couldn't find anything on not being allowed to skip previews/commericals within it.  But I confess after a while my eyes started bleeding from the legalese.  Anyone else read it and find that section?  (Not saying it isn't there, but I could not find it)
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The bill would also permit people to use technology to skip objectionable content -- like a gory or sexually explicit scene -- in films, a right that consumers already have. However, under the proposed language, viewers would not be allowed to use software or devices to skip commericals or promotional announcements "that would otherwise be performed or displayed before, during or after the performance of the motion picture," like the previews on a DVD. The proposed law also includes language from the Pirate Act (S2237), which would permit the Justice Department to file civil lawsuits against alleged copyright infringers.
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« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2004, 09:04:57 PM »

Ah ok; Thanks Enough!  Seeing that specific text let me find it...  Section 212 on page 27.  Why didn't I get that before?  

It does specify 'motion pictures' in the text; but admittedly it is sort of vague and specific all at the same time.
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« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2004, 10:38:19 PM »

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But telling me I can't skip the previews on a DVD or the commercials on TiVo is out of control. I've sent my comments to Schumer/Clinton and asked them to defeat this legislation.

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Yeah, because those two asshats really listen to the public. slywink


I never said that. It's just that as horrific as they are, they're sadly the only Senators I have. Ain't it pathetic?

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