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« Reply #280 on: May 23, 2011, 06:55:27 PM »

Quote from: leo8877 on May 23, 2011, 03:51:37 AM

Man it really bothers me where the story is going.

It is supposed to bother you. 
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« Reply #281 on: May 23, 2011, 07:28:13 PM »

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Quote from: leo8877 on May 23, 2011, 03:51:37 AM

Man it really bothers me where the story is going.

If you're bothered now...

you know, the best thing about knowing the books and watching people who haven't read them watch the series is getting to watch them squirm  icon_twisted

I couldn't take it and read spoilers on Wikipedia and....spoilers about the book (guessing the rest of season 1)

Spoiler for Hiden:
...not sure I want to keep watching.  Everyone good dies and all the pricks stay in power?  Why did littlefinger betray Ned Stark?


There's a reason Martin made such a large cast of characters(many who havn't been introduced yet). What happens throught the end of book/season 1 is the tip of the iceberg.
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« Reply #282 on: May 23, 2011, 07:57:06 PM »

Spoiler for "about the latest episode":
Man, I was really hoping for some direwolf action. That stream Bran crossed with his horse before he was attacked by the wildlings and oathbreaker? Summer and Gray Wind were rolling around in that tearing people's throats out. The scene was still pretty gory in the TV series though, so not all was lost.
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« Reply #283 on: May 24, 2011, 09:30:05 AM »

Yeah, only problem with using the wolves is that they must be hideously expensive to have on screen. Also, they have to use pups of various ages, difficult to do in a production timeframe.

I suspect they'll wait a while until the wolves are fully grown in the story, then we'll see more of them at full size since they can use the same full grown wolves.
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« Reply #284 on: May 25, 2011, 04:45:59 AM »

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>klunk<

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« Reply #285 on: May 25, 2011, 02:48:54 PM »

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Quote from: Isgrimnur on May 23, 2011, 02:05:16 AM

>klunk<

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« Reply #286 on: May 25, 2011, 10:12:40 PM »

Quote from: Turtle on May 24, 2011, 09:30:05 AM

Yeah, only problem with using the wolves is that they must be hideously expensive to have on screen. Also, they have to use pups of various ages, difficult to do in a production timeframe.

I suspect they'll wait a while until the wolves are fully grown in the story, then we'll see more of them at full size since they can use the same full grown wolves.

Someone mentioned that they have been having issues with the wolves on the set. I would expect very little wolf-action to be in this series to be honest  (but if you think about it there wasn't a huge amount in the books either).
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« Reply #287 on: May 25, 2011, 11:12:14 PM »

Production realities are pretty evident in parts, and usually they're the main part where things don't match up with the show and how I imagined it.  The Dothraki "horde" for instance - I imagined huge armies crossing the plains with storms of dust behind them.  In the show, it's like 20 dudes smile  Same with King Robert's hunt.  I imagined a big hunting party that causes a lot of confusion.  In the scene - four guys!  Still, it's pretty damn close and they've obviously spared little expense with set and costume design.
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« Reply #288 on: June 06, 2011, 10:57:01 PM »

damn, Sunday's episode was full of all kinds of awesome.  only two left!
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« Reply #289 on: June 06, 2011, 11:19:18 PM »

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damn, Sunday's episode was full of all kinds of awesome.  only two left!

I actually thought this last episode was a bit slower than I'd imagined it would be.  It left me wondering how they can possibly finish the book off with only 2 eps as I thought there was still a lot more that had to happen.  Should be a crazy ride.
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« Reply #290 on: June 07, 2011, 12:34:30 AM »

The first book ends with several cliff-hangers, so the first season should finish that way too.
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« Reply #291 on: June 07, 2011, 12:38:30 AM »

yeah, looking over the plot summary for the first book there's not much major stuff left.
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« Reply #292 on: June 07, 2011, 10:37:45 AM »

Quote from: kathode on May 25, 2011, 11:12:14 PM

Production realities are pretty evident in parts, and usually they're the main part where things don't match up with the show and how I imagined it.  The Dothraki "horde" for instance - I imagined huge armies crossing the plains with storms of dust behind them.  In the show, it's like 20 dudes smile  Same with King Robert's hunt.  I imagined a big hunting party that causes a lot of confusion.  In the scene - four guys!  Still, it's pretty damn close and they've obviously spared little expense with set and costume design.

Yeah, I'd rather them have their well realized aesthetics right now than tons of big CG (as opposed to the mass amounts of smaller CG work they have) that will look stale in a few years anyway. You're right though, it would be nice to get at least one big establishing shot of the Dothraki horde, just to suitably impress upon viewers why Robert and many others were very concerned about Daenarys taking up with them.
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« Reply #293 on: June 08, 2011, 03:37:05 PM »

Dinklage continues to own this show.  The two dimensional characters of the Queen and her son still continue to NOT impress me.  I'm hoping they aren't this "comic book evil" in the books...or perhaps there's more to come that will flesh the characters out and elevate them beyond a Rocky and Bullwinkle villain.  I'm holding out hope.

Also, just a thought, but if you're the leader of a barbarian tribe of feared warriors, try not to always look like you just came out of an audition for the Robert Smith story.

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« Reply #294 on: June 08, 2011, 04:04:06 PM »

Quote from: hepcat on June 08, 2011, 03:37:05 PM

Dinklage continues to own this show.  The two dimensional characters of the Queen and her son still continue to NOT impress me.  I'm hoping they aren't this "comic book evil" in the books...or perhaps there's more to come that will flesh the characters out and elevate them beyond a Rocky and Bullwinkle villain.  I'm holding out hope.

The queen is actually more nuanced in the TV series than in the books. They're not really evil, they're just very selfish and somewhat insane.

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Also, just a thought, but if you're the leader of a barbarian tribe of feared warriors, try not to always look like you just came out of an audition for the Robert Smith story.

The eye shadowing is to reduce sunlight glare in the eyes, according to Jason Momoa (IIRC). He supposedly picked that up from real history and brought it to the show.
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« Reply #295 on: June 08, 2011, 04:09:24 PM »

Ah, so Robert Smith IS a barbarian!

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Spoiler for Hiden:
boo to killing off the dance instructor.  i liked that character, damn it!
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« Reply #296 on: June 08, 2011, 05:34:52 PM »

Quote from: hepcat on June 08, 2011, 04:09:24 PM

Ah, so Robert Smith IS a barbarian!

p.s.
Spoiler for Hiden:
boo to killing off the dance instructor.  i liked that character, damn it!

They never actually show him getting killed. So he could return.
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« Reply #297 on: June 08, 2011, 05:44:45 PM »

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p.s.
Spoiler for Hiden:
boo to killing off the dance instructor.  i liked that character, damn it!


They never actually show him getting killed. So he could return.

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« Reply #298 on: June 09, 2011, 01:02:56 PM »

Quote from: Scraper on June 08, 2011, 05:34:52 PM

Quote from: hepcat on June 08, 2011, 04:09:24 PM

Ah, so Robert Smith IS a barbarian!

p.s.
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boo to killing off the dance instructor.  i liked that character, damn it!

They never actually show him getting killed. So he could return.

Spoiler for Hiden:
He won't.
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« Reply #299 on: June 09, 2011, 02:12:22 PM »

Quote from: hepcat on June 08, 2011, 03:37:05 PM

Dinklage continues to own this show.  The two dimensional characters of the Queen and her son still continue to NOT impress me.  I'm hoping they aren't this "comic book evil" in the books...or perhaps there's more to come that will flesh the characters out and elevate them beyond a Rocky and Bullwinkle villain.  I'm holding out hope.

Also, just a thought, but if you're the leader of a barbarian tribe of feared warriors, try not to always look like you just came out of an audition for the Robert Smith story.



I think he looks more like Dave Navarro on Steroids.
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« Reply #300 on: June 09, 2011, 02:22:07 PM »

with those pointed eyebrows I always think he's trying to unsuccessfuolly pull off a Mirror Universe Spock look.  I think he was tryign to avod looking like Conan the Barbarian though.
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« Reply #301 on: June 09, 2011, 04:01:02 PM »

Quote from: Scraper on June 08, 2011, 05:34:52 PM

Quote from: hepcat on June 08, 2011, 04:09:24 PM

p.s.
Spoiler for Hiden:
boo to killing off the dance instructor.  i liked that character, damn it!

They never actually show him getting killed. So he could return.

Unlikely. The guy he faced off against was Ser Meryn Trant, a kingsguard.  He's shown again in the throne room scene where they kick out Ser Barristan, the ex-head of the kingsguard.  

He didn't seem hurt.

Syrio was a well-liked character, but his part in the story is done.
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« Reply #302 on: June 09, 2011, 04:37:53 PM »

I actually don't think anyone knows this for sure.
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« Reply #303 on: June 09, 2011, 04:43:21 PM »

Quote from: Razgon on June 09, 2011, 04:37:53 PM

I actually don't think anyone knows this for sure.

Well, no. Not for sure. Martin can do whatever he wants.
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« Reply #304 on: June 09, 2011, 04:48:15 PM »

In the end, it will be revealed that all the strings have been pulled by

Spoiler for Hiden:
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« Reply #305 on: June 09, 2011, 05:19:25 PM »

Quote from: Teggy on June 09, 2011, 04:48:15 PM

In the end, it will be revealed that all the strings have been pulled by

Spoiler for Hiden:
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Or possibly by

Spoiler for Hiden:
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« Reply #306 on: June 09, 2011, 05:30:19 PM »

it's actually

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a dream Bran is having while in his coma.
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« Reply #307 on: June 09, 2011, 08:56:46 PM »

Quote from: Bob on June 09, 2011, 04:01:02 PM

Quote from: Scraper on June 08, 2011, 05:34:52 PM

Quote from: hepcat on June 08, 2011, 04:09:24 PM

p.s.
Spoiler for Hiden:
boo to killing off the dance instructor.  i liked that character, damn it!

They never actually show him getting killed. So he could return.

Unlikely. The guy he faced off against was Ser Meryn Trant, a kingsguard.  He's shown again in the throne room scene where they kick out Ser Barristan, the ex-head of the kingsguard.  

He didn't seem hurt.

Syrio was a well-liked character, but his part in the story is done.

He had a lasting influence on Arya though. Syrio and his lessons are mentioned about a million times more in the Arya chapters.
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« Reply #308 on: June 10, 2011, 04:37:44 PM »

Quote from: Lord Percy on June 09, 2011, 08:56:46 PM

He had a lasting influence on Arya though. Syrio and his lessons are mentioned about a million times more in the Arya chapters.

Definitely.  I hope they manage to keep that in there, despite it being internal dialogue in the books.
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« Reply #309 on: June 10, 2011, 08:53:55 PM »

Quote from: Bob on June 10, 2011, 04:37:44 PM

Quote from: Lord Percy on June 09, 2011, 08:56:46 PM

He had a lasting influence on Arya though. Syrio and his lessons are mentioned about a million times more in the Arya chapters.

Definitely.  I hope they manage to keep that in there, despite it being internal dialogue in the books.

I can easily see it as them having her whisper the lines to herself.
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« Reply #310 on: June 11, 2011, 08:57:53 PM »

Quote from: Scraper on June 09, 2011, 02:12:22 PM

Quote from: hepcat on June 08, 2011, 03:37:05 PM

Dinklage continues to own this show.  The two dimensional characters of the Queen and her son still continue to NOT impress me.  I'm hoping they aren't this "comic book evil" in the books...or perhaps there's more to come that will flesh the characters out and elevate them beyond a Rocky and Bullwinkle villain.  I'm holding out hope.

Also, just a thought, but if you're the leader of a barbarian tribe of feared warriors, try not to always look like you just came out of an audition for the Robert Smith story.



I think he looks more like Dave Navarro on Steroids.

+1 to this.  All season long my wife and I have been referring to him as "that buff Dave Navarro guy".
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« Reply #311 on: June 11, 2011, 10:23:02 PM »

Quote from: Ralph-Wiggum on June 09, 2011, 05:19:25 PM

Quote from: Teggy on June 09, 2011, 04:48:15 PM

In the end, it will be revealed that all the strings have been pulled by

Spoiler for Hiden:
Lady

Or possibly by

Spoiler for Hiden:
Hodor

Bastard...you owe me a new monitor for that.

I'm really late to the party, but have taken advantage of a friend's DVR and caught up with the series this weekend.  Still processing a few of the specifics, but overall, I'm completely blown away by how well they did.  It's almost eerie how nearly everything is exactly how I had pictured it in my minds eye.  The only person I think they totally whiffed on was Lysa Arryn.  I thought I remembered her being described as a very plump woman, and while the actress does a great job of bringing the crazy, I didn't think she looked quite right.
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« Reply #312 on: June 12, 2011, 12:00:04 AM »

Quote from: Gratch on June 11, 2011, 10:23:02 PM

I thought I remembered her being described as a very plump woman, and while the actress does a great job of bringing the crazy, I didn't think she looked quite right.

Yeah, pretty sure she's fat in the books.  But now whenever I think of her, all I can think of is... that scene.

Personally I'm happy with all casting except Catelyn.  Everytime I see her I just think "schoolmarm."  I imagined someone a bit more classically feminine while still having that tough side.  But I know they had to recast her at the last minute because the original actress dropped out, so they probably had a limited selection.
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« Reply #313 on: June 12, 2011, 12:35:43 AM »

Quote from: kathode on June 12, 2011, 12:00:04 AM

Quote from: Gratch on June 11, 2011, 10:23:02 PM

I thought I remembered her being described as a very plump woman, and while the actress does a great job of bringing the crazy, I didn't think she looked quite right.

Yeah, pretty sure she's fat in the books.  But now whenever I think of her, all I can think of is... that scene.

yeah, that scene was a tad uncomfortable.  and for some reason I expected Catelyn to be a bit more attractive, and with the schoolmarm look I can't picture her pulling off what she will need to pull off.
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« Reply #314 on: June 13, 2011, 04:56:03 AM »

I knew it was coming, but still:

Spoiler for Hiden:
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« Reply #315 on: June 13, 2011, 03:25:11 PM »

Spoiler for Hiden:
Sean Bean has now been typecast in the role of  "fantasy actor who dies towards the end of the first chapter"
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« Reply #316 on: June 13, 2011, 04:15:45 PM »

Wow, they really cut corners in this episode.

Spoiler for episode 9:
Two large battles, and we didn't get to see either of them? I would've liked to see Tyrion and Gregor Clegane ride off to battle. The battle in the Whispering Woods was pretty much as described in the book though (i.e. from Catelyn's point of view, away from the battle).

The final scene was pretty well done, I think. I can't wait to see the final scene in episode 10. smile
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« Reply #317 on: June 13, 2011, 04:19:05 PM »

Quote from: Lord Percy on June 13, 2011, 04:15:45 PM

Wow, they really cut corners in this episode.

Spoiler for episode 9:
Two large battles, and we didn't get to see either of them? I would've liked to see Tyrion and Gregor Clegane ride off to battle. The battle in the Whispering Woods was pretty much as described in the book though (i.e. from Catelyn's point of view, away from the battle).

The final scene was pretty well done, I think. I can't wait to see the final scene in episode 10. smile

I don't know, I seem to remember it being like that in the book too, but it has been quite some time since I read them.

Spoiler for Hiden:
even if they did cut out Tyrions battle it seemed really appropriate for the character the way they did it, with him going off to battle and then waking up since he got knocked out.
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« Reply #318 on: June 13, 2011, 06:02:11 PM »

Quote from: CeeKay on June 13, 2011, 04:19:05 PM

Quote from: Lord Percy on June 13, 2011, 04:15:45 PM

Wow, they really cut corners in this episode.

Spoiler for episode 9:
Two large battles, and we didn't get to see either of them? I would've liked to see Tyrion and Gregor Clegane ride off to battle. The battle in the Whispering Woods was pretty much as described in the book though (i.e. from Catelyn's point of view, away from the battle).

The final scene was pretty well done, I think. I can't wait to see the final scene in episode 10. smile

I don't know, I seem to remember it being like that in the book too, but it has been quite some time since I read them.

Spoiler for Hiden:
even if they did cut out Tyrions battle it seemed really appropriate for the character the way they did it, with him going off to battle and then waking up since he got knocked out.

Yes, but
Spoiler for Hiden:
now he didn't get to disembowel a horse with his spiked helmet. Anyway, I think it's a bit cheap to just cut out the whole battle. This was one of the scenes I was most looking forward to. It's described in the book with quite a bit of detail.
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« Reply #319 on: June 13, 2011, 09:55:23 PM »

Ok, I know this is a thread about the tv series but... <books>
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I'm a little over halfway through Storm of Swords and I'm completely taken aback. in shock. PISSED.
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