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« Reply #120 on: November 20, 2010, 01:53:26 AM »

Quote from: PeteRock on November 19, 2010, 05:07:30 PM



Both Jesse Eisenberg and Michael Cera.  If they are even two people.  Same actors, same roles, same one-dimensional ability.  Up until now I didn't even know they were two people.  Probably because I don't care.

For either of them. 

Heh, I thought I was the only one who saw the similarities.  They look so much alike they could play brothers in a movie.
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« Reply #121 on: December 15, 2010, 05:50:07 AM »

Quote from: PeteRock on November 19, 2010, 06:07:35 PM

Quote from: rickfc on November 19, 2010, 05:18:59 PM

Jesse Eisenberg was good in Zombieland.  Haven't seen anything else with him.

Thought that was Michael Cera.   retard

So did I, until seeing your post.
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« Reply #122 on: June 09, 2015, 10:31:01 PM »

Bruce Jenner.
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« Reply #123 on: June 10, 2015, 12:29:27 AM »

Quote from: ATB on June 09, 2015, 10:31:01 PM

Bruce Jenner.
Why do you want this thread locked?
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« Reply #124 on: June 10, 2015, 11:56:36 AM »

Quote from: Caine on June 10, 2015, 12:29:27 AM

Quote from: ATB on June 09, 2015, 10:31:01 PM

Bruce Jenner.
Why do you want this thread locked?

You resurrected a 5 year old thread just to move it to "Political/Religious Nonsense"?
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« Reply #125 on: June 10, 2015, 12:04:32 PM »

Sorry, what?

I still do have the ability to say what actor I'd like in the rocket don't I?  Or this individual untouchable now?  

How is mentioning this person a lockable offense?  SJW's are ruling the roost.  


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« Reply #126 on: June 10, 2015, 12:22:52 PM »

I thought this thread was about sending bad actors / actresses into the sun, not trannys...
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« Reply #127 on: June 10, 2015, 02:19:03 PM »

Quote from: Mystic95Z on June 10, 2015, 12:22:52 PM

I thought this thread was about sending bad actors / actresses into the sun, not trannys...

Quote from: ATB on June 10, 2015, 12:04:32 PM

Sorry, what?

I still do have the ability to say what actor I'd like in the rocket don't I?  Or this individual untouchable now? 

How is mentioning this person a lockable offense?  SJW's are ruling the roost. 




It's the reason that matters.  I think everyone here can assume why you put that name on the list.  That makes it political, or a SJ issue if you want to call it that. 

I've never had an issue with your conviction to your religion, but saying you want someone gone because they have a different life choice than what you find acceptable is quite a bit different than saying you want to see a bad actor/musician go away because you think they have no talent.

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« Reply #128 on: June 10, 2015, 03:04:49 PM »

Well, I certainly have my differences with ATB's views occasionally, but he may just be annoyed with the media blitz surrounding Caitlyn's transformation, rather than the change itself (benefit of the doubt).
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« Reply #129 on: June 10, 2015, 03:55:41 PM »

Quote from: Suitably Ironic Moniker on June 10, 2015, 03:04:49 PM

Well, I certainly have my differences with ATB's views occasionally, but he may just be annoyed with the media blitz surrounding Caitlyn's transformation, rather than the change itself (benefit of the doubt).

This was my initial thought as well. Caitlyn herself is just fine...I'd nominate the media (on either side) who can't stop tripping over themselves with non-stories to be on the rocket. 

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« Reply #130 on: June 10, 2015, 06:08:04 PM »

Jerry O'Connell: Liked him earlier on in his career, such as My Secret Identity and Sliders, but now I can't stand the guy. It's as if he's on speed every single time I see him, talking really fast and exaggerating his facial expressions. He tries way too hard in trying to get people to like him. Just be natural, Jerry.

Dakota Fanning: Drop her out the airlock when you get there. Screaming your head off for half of WotW doesn't convince me you can act.

Abigail Breslin: Something about her that annoys me. It's as if they stuck her with the cliché and it gets amplified through her wooden acting.

Kristen Chenoweth: My god, she's annoying. High-pitched yapping and laughing. Like a small dog with a high-pitched bark that doesn't know when to shut up.
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« Reply #131 on: June 10, 2015, 11:54:05 PM »

<certain thread lock>. I agree, I could give two shits about "Caitlyn" and hope to never hear another word about it.  It's whole family is a talentless joke and we would be better off if "Kardashian" wasn't in our vocabulary.

This Caitlyn stunt was nothing more than a money grab, from a slut filled fame hungry family.


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« Reply #132 on: June 11, 2015, 01:37:19 PM »

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<certain thread lock>. I agree, I could give two shits about "Caitlyn" and hope to never hear another word about it.  It's whole family is a talentless joke and we would be better off if "Kardashian" wasn't in our vocabulary.

This Caitlyn stunt was nothing more than a money grab, from a slut filled fame hungry family.


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Okay, I said I'd let it go.  I went away from the page, read some articles, then said out loud, "Nope" and came back.

Look, there was money to be made here for Caitlyn, sure.  There's a reality show coming and everything.  And, yes, the Kardashian clan is spine-shiveringly awful.  However, for Caitlyn to put herself out there so far was really a bold move and should be applauded.

I saw someone mention that we are in a post-Caitlyn world now, which seems hyperbolic, but it's true.  

Before this happened, transgendered people were getting the shit kicked out of them regularly.  Just two years ago, a trans woman was beaten to death right outside of a NYC police station.  The reason these things happen so regularly, I think, is twofold.  For many, understanding what would bring a person to do this to themselves is completely incomprehensible.  And like most things we don't understand, we fear it.  Secondly, seeing an attractive person who is not actually the gender that you're supposed to like makes you feel weird and confused, and rather than deal with that rationally inside, an external attack is made.

Caitlyn put herself out there into that world.  Overnight, the world (for the most part) kind of got it.  The world, or at least our part of it, really did change because of this.

I know people get all pissed off when Caitlyn gets called a hero.  I understand that the men and women who put their lives on the line are a greater level of hero.  But Caitlyn put herself out there into a world of obvious danger for those like her and managed to change the world in doing so, making it a little more understanding.  That's no small feat.

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« Reply #133 on: June 11, 2015, 01:45:17 PM »

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Quote from: Eco-Logic on June 10, 2015, 11:54:05 PM

<certain thread lock>. I agree, I could give two shits about "Caitlyn" and hope to never hear another word about it.  It's whole family is a talentless joke and we would be better off if "Kardashian" wasn't in our vocabulary.

This Caitlyn stunt was nothing more than a money grab, from a slut filled fame hungry family.


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Okay, I said I'd let it go.  I went away from the page, read some articles, then said out loud, "Nope" and came back.

Look, there was money to be made here for Caitlyn, sure.  There's a reality show coming and everything.  And, yes, the Kardashian clan is spine-shiveringly awful.  However, for Caitlyn to put herself out there so far was really a bold move and should be applauded.

I saw someone mention that we are in a post-Caitlyn world now, which seems hyperbolic, but it's true.  

Before this happened, transgendered people were getting the shit kicked out of them regularly.  Just two years ago, a trans woman was beaten to death right outside of a NYC police station.  The reason these things happen so regularly, I think, is twofold.  For many, understanding what would bring a person to do this to themselves is completely incomprehensible.  And like most things we don't understand, we fear it.  Secondly, seeing an attractive person who is not actually the gender that you're supposed to like makes you feel weird and confused, and rather than deal with that rationally inside, an external attack is made.

Caitlyn put herself out there into that world.  Overnight, the world (for the most part) kind of got it.  The world, or at least our part of it, really did change because of this.

I know people get all pissed off when Caitlyn gets called a hero.  I understand that the men and women who put their lives on the line are a greater level of hero.  But Caitlyn put herself out there into a world of obvious danger for those like her and managed to change the world in doing so, making it a little more understanding.  That's no small feat.

Say hi to the Political/Religious gang for me.  I won't be going in there.

Well said, and I agree.

I don't think there's too many people who would argue against Eco's general assessment of the Kardashian clan.  However, for someone who has such a high media profile (for good or ill) to take a strongly visible action that increases the social acceptance of trans folks is important.  There are thousands of transgendered people fighting some seriously horrific discrimination and mistreatment battles on a daily basis, and we never hear about it because they are doing it out of the public spotlight.

If Caitlyn's actions helps even one of them have a better life through a more accepting general public, then it's absolutely worth it.
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« Reply #134 on: June 11, 2015, 06:25:18 PM »

If this actually helps trans people not get beat-up and have a better life, I agree with your point.  I don't particularly see it helping... someone that would do such a thing will not be swayed by it gaining more attention. 

Anyway, I hope I didn't offend, and I still stand by the whole Kardashian family being on this rocket, including Caitlyn.


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« Reply #135 on: June 11, 2015, 06:49:53 PM »

Quote from: Eco-Logic on June 11, 2015, 06:25:18 PM

If this actually helps trans people not get beat-up and have a better life, I agree with your point.  I don't particularly see it helping... someone that would do such a thing will not be swayed by it gaining more attention.  

Anyway, I hope I didn't offend, and I still stand by the whole Kardashian family being on this rocket, including Caitlyn.


It might not sway their internal thought process, but this sea change has at least a good chance of staying their hand.
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« Reply #136 on: June 11, 2015, 06:53:55 PM »

You're right, it's probably not going to change any extreme opinions today or tomorrow, but more general awareness of something like that can help drive discussions and affect people 5 or 10 or 20 years down the line.  Hate and anger are taught to the next generation, they're not born with it.  Tolerance, acceptance and empathy generally requires some level of familiarity with the topic, so you have to start somewhere.  

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« Reply #137 on: June 11, 2015, 07:13:32 PM »

For what it's worth, I don't want Caitlyn to be on the rocket due to his decision to "transform", or whatever it's called.  I just dislike the entire family.
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« Reply #138 on: June 11, 2015, 07:43:40 PM »

Tom Hardy - You weren't even a Little Bit Angry Max. In the last two movies I've seen you in, You've had your face covered up.

I appreciate the sentiment.  Given your acceptance of being put on the very front of a vehicle, go ahead and get your blood donor ass up on the top of the rocket.

The seat he would otherwise occupy can go to Rosie Huntington-Whiteley who made Megan Fox look like a real actress. Good luck sneaking that by Statham though.
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« Reply #139 on: June 12, 2015, 12:15:30 AM »

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Tom Hardy - You weren't even a Little Bit Angry Max. In the last two movies I've seen you in, You've had your face covered up.

You do understand "mad" can mean crazy, too, right?

Also, you're condemning him because of costuming?
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« Reply #140 on: June 12, 2015, 04:37:49 PM »

Really? slywink My less-than-angry comment was tongue firmly planted in cheek on the word-play of MAD having two meanings - I assumed we all knew that I've got a fairly good grasp of diction.

For me, you should have some sense of pity, understanding or empathy to the main character. His plight was unimportant and had he died half-way through, I wouldn't have cared one smidge. As for madness and redemption, Nicholas Hoult kicked his ass all over the map. As someone who has no strong attachment to the character Max (given my last watching of those films are twenty-five years ago), it means that the direction and acting failed to make him anything more than a placeholder for someone who isn`t a fan. Is that all Hardy's fault? No.

Truth be told, I have yet to see him in a role where I enjoyed any part of his performance. That does not mean I've not enjoyed other aspects of the films (consider for a moment that I liked Mad Max for most things that didn't have to do with him or his portrayal). I enjoyed Inception, Black Hawk Down, This Means War, and even Star Trek: Nemesis (as a silver screen TV episode of ST:NG, certainly not as a film itself). Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy is a movie I've not seen, and Layer Cake is something I've always been meaning to watch but never have. Having Hardy in them lowers the priority significantly.

I really didn't like the final of Nolan's Batman films. With time passing, they certainly didn't hold my attention as being important in the grand scheme of movies that I've watched and influenced me. Bane was arguably the star of that last movie and Hardy did nothing for me.

TL;DR - If a film has Hardy in it, it lowers my expectation, and if he is starring in it, I'd have to be coaxed into watching it.
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« Reply #141 on: June 12, 2015, 04:50:52 PM »

Max's arc in Fury Road isn't about redemption, it's about rediscovering his humanity.  He starts the film almost as a feral animal.

As for Hardy if you want to see him shine you should watch Bronson, or perhaps Locke.
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« Reply #142 on: June 12, 2015, 05:15:37 PM »

I agree that in general I'm not as in love with Tom Hardy as everybody else seems to be, but from what I remember I think he was pretty good in Locke, Bronson, Lawless, Warrior and The Drop. 
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