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« on: March 02, 2006, 01:01:14 PM »

Every day I come home and I see that my neighbor is flying their American Flag without lighting.  The flag is also a little threadbare and sun-worn.  It really bothers me.  I want to say something, but I don't want to be an asshole.  What do you think I should do?  Anything?  Nothing?
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« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2006, 01:36:31 PM »

You could print out the rules to flying the flag and mail it to them, without a return address.  If not that if you have a homeowners association you could go through them.
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« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2006, 04:28:12 PM »

You think that is bad? You should live next door to my neighbors. They still have Christmas lights up... they still manually turn them on... a bunch of the lights are now burned out. Oh, and they still have fake spiderwebs up from Halloween.

You could suggest helping put in a light for the flag. Maybe if it were lit they would be more inclined to get a nice new flag. Or you would end up with a warn flag that is lit up.  :roll:
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« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2006, 05:01:50 PM »

Honestly, I wouldn't do anything.  I can't imagine that you woud get a good response even if your heart is in the right place.
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« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2006, 06:42:23 PM »

Buy a new flag, dress up like a ninja and sneak over in the middle of the night to replace their old one.
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« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2006, 06:45:38 PM »

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Buy a new flag, dress up like a ninja and sneak over in the middle of the night to replace their old one.
+1 but only if you take pictures.
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« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2006, 06:50:08 PM »

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Honestly, I wouldn't do anything.  I can't imagine that you woud get a good response even if your heart is in the right place.


Yeah, you leave him alone and I won't call out spelling errors in your thread title. slywink

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« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2006, 06:52:45 PM »

The flag code only applies to the military and the government.  For individuals, you're asking them to honor it as a custom or out of respect.  Trying to impose customs or respect upon people rarely goes well.  

In your situation, I might mention to the neighbor that it's almost time to retire that flag.  You could even mention the local veterans group that does that.
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« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2006, 08:48:21 PM »

I live next door to a future model home with associated sales trailer.   The flag they have up is out 24 hours all the time, no lighting, and is attached to the pole with only 1 hook after a snow storm we had over a month ago.

I might just print out the rules (aka customs) and tape them to the door while they are gone as a hint.  You would think they wouldn't want to offend anybody who might be wanting to buy a house.

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« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2006, 10:55:48 PM »

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Honestly, I wouldn't do anything.  I can't imagine that you woud get a good response even if your heart is in the right place.


Yeah, you leave him alone and I won't call out spelling errors in your thread title. slywink

Dillemma: Being unable to decide if you want pickles on your burger?

Sorry, it's one of those days at work.


Oops.  That was after a 12 hour shift - I was a lil tired. smile  

You guys are probably right, I should leave it alone.   It just really bugs me to look at that flag.
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« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2006, 11:15:20 PM »

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You guys are probably right, I should leave it alone.   It just really bugs me to look at that flag.


That reminds me whenever I would get a bruise or something and say to my dad, it hurts when I touch it, he'd say stop touching it then!

Stop looking at it, get a headband and tape a piece of construction paper to the side facing your neighbours biggrin
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« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2006, 01:20:36 AM »

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The flag is also a little threadbare and sun-worn.  It really bothers me.


For all the flag experts out there, I have this problem.  Well, first off I replaced the flag when it got kind of...undignified, but now I don't know what to do with the old one.  I don't think it's the kind of thing you just toss in the trash.  It's not big, like 10x6 or so, but I have it in my house now and I just don't know what to do with the thing.

I'm thinking about asking a co-worker whose son is a Boy Scout about it.  Maybe that will point me in the right direction?
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« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2006, 01:50:03 AM »

You're supposed to burn the flag when it needs to be trashed (seriously).  Not in a "DEATH TO THE INFIDELS!!" manner, of course smile

Or give it to your local veterans group - they'll take care of it for you.
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« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2006, 01:53:44 AM »

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You're supposed to burn the flag when it needs to be trashed (seriously).  Not in a "DEATH TO THE INFIDELS!!" manner, of course smile


Thanks.  I knew that is what they did with them but I didn't know if I could do that myself. biggrin
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« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2006, 07:36:51 AM »

Most Veterans of Foreign Wars and American Legion chapters take flags and dispose of them in a proper ceremony.
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« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2006, 04:17:51 PM »

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You're supposed to burn the flag when it needs to be trashed (seriously).  Not in a "DEATH TO THE INFIDELS!!" manner, of course smile

Or give it to your local veterans group - they'll take care of it for you.


Ironically, my local VFW burnt down about 2 months ago.... Seriously.
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« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2006, 09:28:39 PM »

To me, questions like this boil down to what kind of relationship you have with your neighbor.

If you have NO relationship with your neighbor, what makes you think he/she would give a crap what you have to say about their flag?  I wouldn't waste my time in that case.

If you do talk, even just 'hey, what's up' every now and then, I think you have some leverage IF you handle it right.  Maybe mention to him how you are going to get a new flag and set it up...and oh, by the way, you could come with me since I can see you need one too and we can be done quicker if we help each other.

Of course, if YOU don't fly a flag, that won't work.  But I imagine you must, since you are so concerned about how other people fly their flags.  If for some reason you don't display a flag, I'd have to say that's a reason not to say anything.  Because if it was me, and some non-flag flying neighbor tried to tell me how to display MY flag...well that wouldn't end well.

You COULD go the anonymous route, but I have two problems with that.  One, I believe in putting my money where my mouth is, if I have something to say I say it and take credit for it- good or bad.  Second, if it was me and I got an anonymous note, I'd disregard it.  I'd figure, if it isn't important enough to you to come to me and say it to my face, it isn't important enough to you to have me consider what you are trying to say.

edit: rereading this reply, it sounds kinda snarky. That's not how I meant it, it's more that I'm trying to imagine your neighbor's worst case response to possible approaches on this problem.
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