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« on: November 02, 2009, 09:22:01 PM »

Oh. Heck. Yeah.

The greatest MMA fighter of all time will be on primetime network television taking on an almost undoubtedly overmatched but game 10-0 challenger in Brett Rogers.

Even before Brock bailed on his title fight due to illness, this was arguably the most important fight of the month. I can't wait to see it go down.

I think Fedor submits him first round.
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« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2009, 09:27:08 PM »

God I hope it's better than the previous attempts on CBS.
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« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2009, 04:12:48 PM »

I'm kinda surprised at the lack of interest in MMA on the site. 3 more days!
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« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2009, 12:40:20 AM »

I just found out this is happening all of half hour drive from my house.  If I felt like spending $500, I could even get a seat in the sections surrounding the cage.  Somehow, I don't think that's going to happen. icon_lol

And regarding the lack of buzz - Brett's biggest accomplishment was a lightning KO of a clearly shot Arlovski.  In the last two years, Fedor has fought more 'exhibitions' than fights, and the fights he's had were against shop-worn fighters (Arlovski and Sylvia).  For a fight to get hype, fans have to believe both men are at/near their prime and very competitive (did you see any of the Marquez v. Vasquez fights in 2007?)*  If I had to hazard a guess, I would say Fedor will submit Rogers in the first round.

* During this fight, HBO will be running the Chad Dawson - Glen Johnson rematch.  The first fight was contested until the final bell, and Johnson feels he got robbed on the decision.  I have more interest in this fight (courtesy of the fact I think Dawson could be on the verge of stardom if he moves a weight class...) then I do in a potential blowout.  And I won't even mention the Miguel Cotto - Manny Pacquiao fight next week.
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« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2009, 12:11:35 AM »

Full showtime pre-fight video is now up on youtube.
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« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2009, 01:28:51 AM »

I think Fedor adds one more soul to his collection, here.

Which of course means he'll get brutally knocked out in the greatest upset in MMA history.

Of note, SpikeTV will be airing the following recent UFC main events to counter the Strikeforce card:

B.J. Penn vs. Kenny Florian
Anderson Silva vs. Forrest Griffin
Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira vs. Randy Couture
Vitor Belfort vs. Rich Franklin

Obviously you should watch the live card, but you can tape this or whatever and watch it later, or turn it there during commercial breaks.
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« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2009, 02:09:49 AM »

The fight card sounds interesting. I am watching this one.
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« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2009, 02:34:50 AM »

Spoiler for Hiden:
After watching the Werdun/Silva fight, an American wrestler would of destroyed either of these two fighters

Already a better show then EliteXC put on primetime TV.
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« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2009, 04:13:12 AM »

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
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« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2009, 04:34:30 AM »

Overall I thought it was a good night of fights.
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« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2009, 04:36:42 AM »

the main event was pretty good...great action from both fighters and impressive ending...
Spoiler for Hiden:
that knockout punch by Fedor was just brutal...right on the jaw and his fist just went through Rogers' face.  he stepped into that punch with everything he had and it barely looked like his fist slowed down on impact...couldn't have been a much more perfect shot.

unfortunately, i didn't get to watch the enitrenight, but the main event was good and the final three rounds of the middleweight bout were pretty impressive as well.  what i saw was definitely a better showing than anything they ever managed with EliteXC in primetime.
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« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2009, 02:43:43 PM »

From Sports Illustrated:

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Rogers is doing solid work in the clinch as he forces Emelianenko into the fence. They separate now, back in the center of the cage. A huge right hand floors Rogers! Big! And three more wild shots as the American covers. Literally men are jumping up and hugging each other. Hopping up and down like little kids. Boy, it was a monster of a right hand that ended it.


This was me. I actually woke my kids up from my excited screaming.

Some of the writing I'm reading about this fight is odd- saying that Rogers was giving it to Fedor. However, if Fedor had not been cut in this fight, no one would even be saying it was close. He was never hurt, never rocked, never caught flush except with a jab that he walked into.

He took 3 or 4 hits setting up the arm bar, but again, he was never rattled, never out muscled and never in trouble.

He threw bret to the ground 2 or 3 times before the knockout. It was total domination.
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« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2009, 02:54:18 PM »

Total domination?  In the 2nd round, maybe.  Not in the first.
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« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2009, 03:07:38 PM »

Quote from: pr0ner on November 08, 2009, 02:54:18 PM

Total domination?  In the 2nd round, maybe.  Not in the first.

I think if you rewatch it you'll see otherwise.

As I said above, Fedor was never in danger and he tossed rogers around like he was nothing.
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« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2009, 03:12:08 PM »

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on November 08, 2009, 03:07:38 PM

Quote from: pr0ner on November 08, 2009, 02:54:18 PM

Total domination?  In the 2nd round, maybe.  Not in the first.

I think if you rewatch it you'll see otherwise.

As I said above, Fedor was never in danger and he tossed rogers around like he was nothing.

You don't lie on your back and take a bunch of haymakers in a row if you're dominating.  Nor do you walk into a nose-breaking punch.
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« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2009, 05:11:43 PM »

i'm no MMA expert, but the one time Fedor was on his back....i thought Rodgers was 1 punch from ending it.   no total domination from what i saw.
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« Reply #16 on: November 08, 2009, 05:56:15 PM »

Well, do you think this went the way cbs was hoping?  When you see blood hitting the canvas like that, you run the risk of pushing away the fringe fans you were hoping to attract in the first place.  Props to his cutman for how quickly he got that thing closed between rounds.  That was like watching an early Gatti fight.

As for domination, Fedor did control the whole fight and did dominate for most of it, but 'he was never in trouble' is not a correct statement, imo.  When Fedor was underneath Rogers, it just takes one wrong punch landing correctly from the bigger stronger fighter to make the ref stop it.  That's being in danger.  Yes, Fedor can fight from his back; that doesn't mean he can't be hurt while doing so.  At that point, the fight was going exactly the way Rogers would want it - when there's such a massive difference in fight experience the young underdog has to try and put the fight in situations where he he can win.  Still, fun fight to watch. 
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« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2009, 06:15:15 PM »

I didn't think the cut/broken nose was a big deal.  It looked bad but I didn't feel like it was going to influence the fight all that much.  The series where Fedor was on his back could have ended the fight.  As others have stated, one good punch landing with those huge hands Rogers has could have ended it.   Otherwise, I thought Fedor was in control most of the match.  Big thumbs up for CBS on this one.  I hope they can follow it up with something as entertaining.
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« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2009, 07:17:51 PM »

Of course one punch could end it in that position. That's the point. The point is also that Fedor is almost always on his back in his fights, has never really been hurt (except fujita and that was while standing) in those situations, was not hurt last night, and took 3 or 4 punches- none of which had rogers full weight behind them due to Fedor's hip movement- while he moved into position for an armbar.
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« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2009, 12:27:13 AM »

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on November 08, 2009, 07:17:51 PM

Of course one punch could end it in that position. That's the point.

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on November 08, 2009, 03:07:38 PM

Fedor was never in danger

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« Reply #20 on: November 09, 2009, 01:12:23 AM »

Quote from: pr0ner on November 09, 2009, 12:27:13 AM

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on November 08, 2009, 07:17:51 PM

Of course one punch could end it in that position. That's the point.

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on November 08, 2009, 03:07:38 PM

Fedor was never in danger

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Because he doesn't take very much damage...
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« Reply #21 on: November 09, 2009, 02:35:09 AM »

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on November 09, 2009, 01:12:23 AM

Quote from: pr0ner on November 09, 2009, 12:27:13 AM

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on November 08, 2009, 07:17:51 PM

Of course one punch could end it in that position. That's the point.

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on November 08, 2009, 03:07:38 PM

Fedor was never in danger

 retard

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Because he doesn't take very much damage...

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You go right on ahead and keep moving those goalposts.
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« Reply #22 on: November 09, 2009, 01:18:12 PM »

Quote from: pr0ner on November 09, 2009, 02:35:09 AM

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on November 09, 2009, 01:12:23 AM

Quote from: pr0ner on November 09, 2009, 12:27:13 AM

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on November 08, 2009, 07:17:51 PM

Of course one punch could end it in that position. That's the point.

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on November 08, 2009, 03:07:38 PM

Fedor was never in danger

 retard

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Because he doesn't take very much damage...

 Roll Eyes

You go right on ahead and keep moving those goalposts.

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Because he wasn't knocked out.
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« Reply #23 on: November 09, 2009, 01:42:09 PM »

Oh and this:


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« Reply #24 on: November 09, 2009, 02:05:40 PM »

I watched both this and the free UFC event. After watching both the one thing that really sticks out at me is that the Strikeforce announcer is really annoying. Not Frank Shamrock, the other one that puts on the entirely fake voice and over inflects everything. Good lord is he bad. Also the first Strikeforce fight was pretty lame, and the wrestling style entrances are corny. Other than that I enjoyed the Strikeforce event just as much as the UFC one.
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« Reply #25 on: November 09, 2009, 02:58:47 PM »

Quote from: Scraper on November 09, 2009, 02:05:40 PM

I watched both this and the free UFC event. After watching both the one thing that really sticks out at me is that the Strikeforce announcer is really annoying. Not Frank Shamrock, the other one that puts on the entirely fake voice and over inflects everything. Good lord is he bad. Also the first Strikeforce fight was pretty lame, and the wrestling style entrances are corny. Other than that I enjoyed the Strikeforce event just as much as the UFC one.

Agreed. He says a lot of stupid stuff...but i guess that's his shtick.
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« Reply #26 on: November 09, 2009, 03:59:03 PM »

Quote from: Scraper on November 09, 2009, 02:05:40 PM

and the wrestling style entrances are corny.

I have to disagree here somewhat.  When you have a fighter that oozes charisma like Mayhem Miller, the wrestling style entrance works brilliantly.  There's a reason why the crowd booed the result of the title fight, and it's not because the judges screwed up the decision.  That entrance won the crowd over.
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« Reply #27 on: November 09, 2009, 03:59:58 PM »

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on November 09, 2009, 01:18:12 PM

Quote from: pr0ner on November 09, 2009, 02:35:09 AM

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on November 09, 2009, 01:12:23 AM

Quote from: pr0ner on November 09, 2009, 12:27:13 AM

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on November 08, 2009, 07:17:51 PM

Of course one punch could end it in that position. That's the point.

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on November 08, 2009, 03:07:38 PM

Fedor was never in danger

 retard

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Because he doesn't take very much damage...

 Roll Eyes

You go right on ahead and keep moving those goalposts.

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Because he wasn't knocked out.

You go right on ahead and keep moving those goalposts.
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« Reply #28 on: November 09, 2009, 05:06:40 PM »

Quote from: pr0ner on November 09, 2009, 03:59:58 PM

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on November 09, 2009, 01:18:12 PM

Quote from: pr0ner on November 09, 2009, 02:35:09 AM

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on November 09, 2009, 01:12:23 AM

Quote from: pr0ner on November 09, 2009, 12:27:13 AM

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on November 08, 2009, 07:17:51 PM

Of course one punch could end it in that position. That's the point.

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on November 08, 2009, 03:07:38 PM

Fedor was never in danger

 retard

 icon_biggrin

Because he doesn't take very much damage...

 Roll Eyes

You go right on ahead and keep moving those goalposts.

 icon_neutral

Because he wasn't knocked out.

You go right on ahead and keep moving those goalposts.

Because he didn't die.
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« Reply #29 on: November 09, 2009, 06:12:19 PM »

Quote from: pr0ner on November 09, 2009, 03:59:03 PM

Quote from: Scraper on November 09, 2009, 02:05:40 PM

and the wrestling style entrances are corny.

I have to disagree here somewhat.  When you have a fighter that oozes charisma like Mayhem Miller, the wrestling style entrance works brilliantly.  There's a reason why the crowd booed the result of the title fight, and it's not because the judges screwed up the decision.  That entrance won the crowd over.


Funny if he would have gotten decked by the dancer that slugged him on the way to the ring.
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« Reply #30 on: November 09, 2009, 06:13:49 PM »

Quote from: stimpy on November 09, 2009, 06:12:19 PM

Quote from: pr0ner on November 09, 2009, 03:59:03 PM

Quote from: Scraper on November 09, 2009, 02:05:40 PM

and the wrestling style entrances are corny.

I have to disagree here somewhat.  When you have a fighter that oozes charisma like Mayhem Miller, the wrestling style entrance works brilliantly.  There's a reason why the crowd booed the result of the title fight, and it's not because the judges screwed up the decision.  That entrance won the crowd over.


Funny if he would have gotten decked by the dancer that slugged him on the way to the ring.

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That's true.  Mayhem did a great job dodging her swing.  But I thought his entrance was fantastic.
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« Reply #31 on: November 09, 2009, 06:49:25 PM »

That was the really only 'pro wrestling' style entrance they showed wasn't it?
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« Reply #32 on: November 09, 2009, 11:47:10 PM »

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on November 09, 2009, 06:49:25 PM

That was the really only 'pro wrestling' style entrance they showed wasn't it?


It was the only one I remember seeing.
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« Reply #33 on: November 10, 2009, 04:05:30 PM »

I think that's largely the Asian influence of M-1 Global.  If you watch any of those M-1 tournaments on HDNet, they're big on the flashy entrances, costumes and playing up of fighter personalities.
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« Reply #34 on: November 13, 2009, 07:46:15 PM »

Boy that was a hell of a punch.


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« Reply #35 on: November 13, 2009, 08:39:28 PM »

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