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ElijahPrice
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« on: December 05, 2004, 12:20:56 AM »

Hey guys.  I am thinking of buying my brother in law a satellite radio for christmas.  Yeah, I know its $$, but I never got my family anything last year because I was going to take them to a play but I broke both my wrists so it got cancelled.  So this is 2-years of Christmas.

I looked at some Sirius Satellite Radio receivers at Radio Shack and it seemed that they didn't really have that many channels.  I wasn't able to get to XM but I was wondering what people thought of them?  Thanx for the help.
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« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2004, 12:49:03 AM »

I have XM and LOVE it but the whole Sirius NFL deal is tempting!
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« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2004, 12:53:17 AM »

XM user here, although I listen to Sirius on Dish Network and through streaming audio at work occasionally.  They both basically have the same channels, the only major differences being Sirius has NFL broadcasts and XM has MLB. XM has the Opie and Anthony show, shock jocks who are hilariously funny, and Sirius will have Howard Stern sometimes either next year or early 2006.

In terms of actual music, they have essentially the same offerings. Sirius has a couple of offerings that I like, such as Hair Nation, a station devoted only to 80's hair bands, where Xm's 80's channel encompasses all of the 80's, from pop, rock and all the way to rap, although there isn't to much of the latter.

It really comes down to personal preference. Do you go for the underdog (Sirius) or stick with the big man on campus, XM, being owned by the Clear Channel, which I like to refer to as the anti-christ. If your BiL would also like to listen to his music on the net, they both have online offerings. Sirius is free for subscribers, while XM charges $3.99 per month. The streaming service does not include all of the channels, though.

Both services have good deals going on at the moment. Do a search at fatwallet.com for XM and Sirius. I am not sure about Sirius, but I know XM still has to Opie and Anthony package going where you can get the Skyfi receiver, a car kit and 3 months of service, including the Opie and Anthony premium channel, High Voltage, for $100.

Edit: Damn spelling errors.
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« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2004, 01:34:31 AM »

If you go to XM radio's website you can register/setup a trial account and listen to alot of their station's programming right from your PC.

I've done it twice with two seperate email accounts, the programming there is pretty great. If your wanting to find out what XM's stations are like, this is a good way to listen for yourself before you buy.
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« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2004, 01:50:51 AM »

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In terms of actual music, they have essentially the same offerings. Sirius has a couple of offerings that I like, such as Hair Nation, a station devoted only to 80's hair bands, where Xm's 80's channel encompasses all of the 80's, from pop, rock and all the way to rap, although there isn't to much of the latter.

On XM check out Boneyard channel 41.  WASP, RATT, GnR, etc.  I have been an XM subscriber for over a year and absouletly love it.  I have tried to bring it in the workplace but some coworkers prefer the same old shit on the radio frown .
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« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2004, 02:42:52 AM »

Clear Channel owns part of XM and Clear Channel is the devil.....Go with the cool dog with the star thinger on the eye I say.
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« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2004, 02:49:52 AM »

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Clear Channel owns part of XM and Clear Channel is the devil.....Go with the cool dog with the star thinger on the eye I say.

If Sirius is superior I would like to know why besides Clear Channel is evil.  As a subscriber you should be able to tell me why.
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« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2004, 03:40:14 AM »

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On XM check out Boneyard channel 41.  WASP, RATT, GnR, etc.  I have been an XM subscriber for over a year and absouletly love it.  I have tried to bring it in the workplace but some coworkers prefer the same old shit on the radio frown .


 Boneyard is a good channel, I listed to it all the time.  I was just pointing out that Hair Nation was dedicated to only those bands. Boneyard covers a wide variety of Rock. Still, one of the best channels of the service.

I listen at work, as I mentioned previously. I am lucky that I have the office to myself during my shift, so I don't have to worry about anyone's taste in music. It's bad enough that they put the air freshener I brought in in a sealed plastic bag when I am not there. The smell is somewhat strong, but it beats the smell of ass, which the office can sometimes smell like.
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« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2004, 04:40:31 AM »

I unfortunately share a large building with over a dozen people.  And of course there is always one asshat that has to ruin it for everyone.  He only wants to listen to one type of music and will do everything possible to prevent anyone from listening to anything else.  The same radio station playing Velvet Revolver, Jet, and White Stripes a dozen times a day :roll:, sometimes complete silence would be preferred over that.  I guess that's what it will come to.
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« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2004, 04:54:24 AM »

Acually I subscribe to neither atm but if I was going to subscribe I would go with Sirius, even though I heard that XM has a better techno channel.
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« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2004, 08:11:06 AM »

I got SIRIUS radio a couple of months back. I average probaby more than an hour a day listening to it. In addition to music they have a couple of comedy channels that are pretty good.
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« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2004, 02:35:49 PM »

Thanx guys.  I guess unfortunately I can't decide based on sports because he doesn't really like MLB or Football, I know, he needs help.  Personally Football would make me go to Sirius just like DirecTV.

I guess since it seems they have similar music than thats nothing crazy.  I know nothing of Clear Channell, but they must be pretty bad to be called the devil.  I like the idea of the free Internet streaming because he is a techie working at his computer all day and will definiitley use that and since its free that would probably be better.

Thanx for all the help guys.  I ran by Radio Shack yesterday and they only had 1 receiver and then mobile dock and home dock.  He threw out something like $39.99, $29.99, and $79.99?  Or something.  But they only had 1 receiver unit whereas online at there site there are a million of them?  Is there something I am missing?  Where did you guys get Sirius?  I will go check out fatwallet.com though, thanx for the heads up.
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« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2004, 03:45:27 PM »

I got my SIRIUS system at Wal Mart. It came with a reciever and a base unit for home and the car for less than $150.
You then will have to activate it and pay for 6 months or a year or two for service.(I did it online)
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« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2004, 05:49:22 PM »

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Thanx for all the help guys.  I ran by Radio Shack yesterday and they only had 1 receiver and then mobile dock and home dock.  He threw out something like $39.99, $29.99, and $79.99?  Or something.  But they only had 1 receiver unit whereas online at there site there are a million of them?  Is there something I am missing?  Where did you guys get Sirius?  I will go check out fatwallet.com though, thanx for the heads up.

I just hit my local Best Buy to pick up my Sirius set. Yes, they only offer a single base device, but it's also the best one out there (IMHO) of the bunch. It's also the most expensive, but...

If you want to listen to the channels available, go visit http://www.sirius.com and sign up for a 3 days pass thingy. It's also the same site used to subscribers to listen to the music via the internet. Yes, you can't get all the channels online (you get everything but the sports/weather/news/traffic stations), but when you're stuck at work with nothing better to listen to, I can't complain.

Either way, get either Sirius or XM. It's SO much better than radio (as Hair Nation I think puts it - No commercials; not ever), it's not even funny.
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« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2004, 07:01:20 PM »

Wow.  Talk about some luck.  I went to Fat Wallet and found some random promo codes and none of them worked.  All I could find was the Xact Receiver, Home and Car Docking Kit for $189.99.  WAY TOO MUCH!  But then I started putting in random codes and I found one that worked!

PROMO CODE: 381
Xact Reciever
Car and Home Docking Kit
$129.99

Awesome.  So then I could throw in 3 months for whatever slightly expenisve price.  But damn, thats one awesome gift if I do say so myself.  Thanx for the help guys.  I owe you one.
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« Reply #15 on: December 06, 2004, 12:19:00 AM »

I have one question related to XM:

Clearchannel recently ruined a couple of our local stations by censoring any "harsh" lyrics in their songs. So when I hear Green Day or Smashing Pumpkins they always play the edited versions of the songs, and it irritates me to no end.

Does XM censor anything?

I can't imagine they would given that it's a service that you pay for, but I'm just checking, as this is something I hope to do in the mostly near future.
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« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2004, 12:37:49 AM »

I don't know about XM but SIRIUS doesn't. Every F word you ever heard is there.
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« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2004, 12:51:38 AM »

The stations I listen to on XM are uncensored.

Raw is the hardcore hip hop channel and it is certainly not censored smile and neither is the old school rap channel.  The City, which is more of a standard radio-friendly R&B/hip hop channel doesn't have swearing.
Also, the college station and alt station (XMU and Ethyl) are not censored and at least one of the comedy stations is uncensored.

So most of the music I've heard is uncensored except on the one station (The City) that I mentioned.

AFAIK, satellite radio is not covered by FCC decency standards.
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« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2004, 01:39:32 AM »

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Clearchannel recently ruined a couple of our local stations by censoring any "harsh" lyrics in their songs. So when I hear Green Day or Smashing Pumpkins they always play the edited versions of the songs, and it irritates me to no end.


I think all FM stations are like that now.
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« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2004, 02:00:48 AM »

I went with the friends and family deal (as seen on fatwallet and anandtech lately) and got the skifi2, car kit and 3 months of service for $90 shipped.  Keep in mind this is the brand new receiver that sells for $129, the car kit for $50 and three months of service for $30.  I went because it is the best receiver out there...it looks cool and has the 30 min tivo like record and pause.  I might have gone sirius just for Howard Stern but they are saying it could be early 2006 before he's even on.
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« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2004, 12:57:07 PM »

Good choice--I just ordered the same thing myself last night for my wife.  Here's hoping they honor the deal, as it looks like quite a few folks are taking this friends and family offer.  I got a confirmation #, so here's hoping!
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« Reply #21 on: December 06, 2004, 03:51:33 PM »

I've had XM at work for a few months now and I love it.  I'm not entirely sure how I got along without it.

I listen to the talk news stuff quite a bit, but Fungus 53 and Ethel 47 are both really great stations.

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« Reply #22 on: December 06, 2004, 08:32:18 PM »

Update...got it today and installed it in the car.  No problems and it comes pre-activated so I saved another $10 there.  All told I spend $90 and saved around $100 over buying it at Circuit City, Best Buy, etc.  Sound quality is great, signal strength is full and I love the wide range of channels...much more than what's available with the online preview (talk, news and city wise).
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« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2004, 12:01:24 AM »

Glad to hear you received your order, Ericb.  How long did they take to ship it to you?  I got so excited when I ordered via the friends and family deal, that I've been logging in to track my order every couple hours.  Never been obsessive before, but I know my wife is gonna dig this gift.

So ease my impatience and anxiety.  How long ago did you order your stuff?      And was the install easy--it certainly doesn't look terribly complicated, but I've been known to make the easy appear difficult.
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« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2004, 12:13:25 AM »

Just curious, how hard is something like this to install?


What kind of tools are needed?

What kind of work is involved?  Do you have to take out your current radio to use it?  How difficult is that?
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« Reply #25 on: December 07, 2004, 12:26:28 AM »

Not sure about the Sirius receivers but it probably is the same as my XM.  There are a number of options.  My Roady 2 can transmit on a FM frequency, or a cassette tape device that goes into your radio cassette player, or via line-out cable for use with a home stereo.

Edit: The FM option has the poorest quality sound since you are back to sending an analog signal.  My automobile came with a XM radio factory installed so I have the best digital sound.  I use the Roady at work and home by using the line-out and the cassette adapter.
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« Reply #26 on: December 07, 2004, 01:31:34 AM »

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Wow.  Talk about some luck.  I went to Fat Wallet and found some random promo codes and none of them worked.  All I could find was the Xact Receiver, Home and Car Docking Kit for $189.99.  WAY TOO MUCH!  But then I started putting in random codes and I found one that worked!

PROMO CODE: 381
Xact Reciever
Car and Home Docking Kit
$129.99

Awesome.  So then I could throw in 3 months for whatever slightly expenisve price.  But damn, thats one awesome gift if I do say so myself.  Thanx for the help guys.  I owe you one.



Where did you order it from?  Straight from Sirius?
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« Reply #27 on: December 08, 2004, 02:41:55 PM »

Ok...as for shipping I'm not sure.  I should have received it last Friday (instead on Monday) but UPS didn't show up until 6:30 and my work closes at 6.  From ordering to delivery I would say less than a week via UPS ground.  It does come from Knoxville (or the general area) so the closer to Tenn. you are the faster it will come.  

It is the version 2 of the skifi so it has the FM, the line out and the cassette adapter.  It also has a couple mounting options including a vent mount and swivel mount if you have a flat area on your dashboard.  I have an explorer and have absolutely no flat areas anywhere convenient so I mounted with the vent option.  I'm using the cassette adapter because the sound is better and I haven't had to install the antenna yet...it's currently on my dashboard because it's been raining since I got it.  It has a really long line so you should be able to easily guide it along the underside of the console, out the door and mount it on the roof or hood with no problems.  It may not be that pretty but it will work and be out of the way...just make sure to not crimp or cut the line when going through the door area.  Or you could run it under the dash through the antenna hole if you have access to that.

Sound quality is great and the channels are outstanding.  It's still surprising to hear explicit language over the radio but screw the FCC...not only can it be blocked but it's a pay service so stay the hell away from it.
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« Reply #28 on: December 08, 2004, 07:15:53 PM »

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Quote from: "ElijahPrice"
Wow.  Talk about some luck.  I went to Fat Wallet and found some random promo codes and none of them worked.  All I could find was the Xact Receiver, Home and Car Docking Kit for $189.99.  WAY TOO MUCH!  But then I started putting in random codes and I found one that worked!

PROMO CODE: 381
Xact Reciever
Car and Home Docking Kit
$129.99

Awesome.  So then I could throw in 3 months for whatever slightly expenisve price.  But damn, thats one awesome gift if I do say so myself.  Thanx for the help guys.  I owe you one.

Where did you order it from?  Straight from Sirius?


Try going to the www.sirius.com website, and promocode: 070
XACT Car and home for $49.99
XACT Car  $0.00
JVC KT SR2000 $0.00


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« Reply #29 on: December 08, 2004, 11:28:42 PM »

Thanks ericb.  I ordered my wife's Skyfi 2 Sunday evening, and was getting a tad anxious since they've given me a confimation number and charged my credit card--but not actually informed me if it shipped.  In fact, the confirmation order # doesn't even show up in their system yet.  

I did notice they have a notice on their website that XM has  been slammed with orders, and to be understanding about delays.  I'll give them until Friday before I start crying like a baby.     :cry:
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« Reply #30 on: December 09, 2004, 03:23:44 AM »

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Try going to the www.sirius.com website, and promocode: 070
XACT Car and home for $49.99
XACT Car  $0.00
JVC KT SR2000 $0.00


Oh you suck so much for being like 2 days late.  Do you think I could call up tomorrow and switch it?  Oh man, that would be sweet.  What is that code from?

Valeal - Yeah I went to Sirius > Buy Sirius > Buy from Sirius Direct.  Appears I was ripped off though.... :cry:

EDIT: That code requires 1 year service only which is like $140.  So mine was $130 + $40 = $170 for 3 monthes urs us $140 + $50 = $190.  I guess its worth the $20 for 9 monthes more.  Guy said to just deny the first delivery and re-order.  Nice people work those phones.
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« Reply #31 on: December 13, 2004, 05:49:16 PM »

Elijah,

Glad you got it to work out smile  Sorry that I didn't see your post earlier...My interesting gaming has been re-ignited.  Ever since that damn xbox...I just play it....its like nothing else matters smile  My ADDICTION is back!  LOL

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« Reply #32 on: December 14, 2004, 01:40:41 AM »

Ahh....its cool zero.  Thanx for the help.  I appreciate it...  The xbox is magical, isn't it...damn u bill gates
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