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« Reply #80 on: November 10, 2009, 07:43:17 PM »

Quote from: godhugh on November 10, 2009, 07:19:53 PM

Ah well, when you're wrong you're wrong, but I don't have the same moral objections over a personal sex tape as I do over Big Boobs Bonanza 8 or something.

Why would you have any moral objections about Big Boobs Bonanza?  Seriously, what do you care what happens between consenting adults?
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« Reply #81 on: November 10, 2009, 07:46:36 PM »

Quote from: Blackadar on November 10, 2009, 07:41:49 PM

I'd say her 15 minutes were up long ago, but I want her to continue.

Same here. The longer she stays in the spotlight talking about it, the better chance the tape actually gets leaked.  icon_twisted
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« Reply #82 on: November 10, 2009, 08:03:54 PM »

Quote from: Blackadar on November 10, 2009, 07:41:49 PM

Now her latest claim is that it's not a sex tape since she "wasn't having sex" in the video.  I think the bullshit meter just pegged over 10 and broke.  Didn't a particular President try an excuse like that with an epic FAIL?

Yes, a video of you masturbating, made for the purpose of sexually stimulating your significant other, is a "sex tape" by any relevant standard.

SL's point is a fair one.  I'm not saying that nobody who made porn can ever become a critic of porn.  I'm saying that doing so without being a hypocritical first-stone-throwing asshole would require a level of humility that I'm not seeing from her.
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« Reply #83 on: November 10, 2009, 08:16:09 PM »

Oh, and also:

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“Americans heard only bits and pieces of what really happened,” Prejean said. “I think that there is a liberal bias in the media, and it’s unfortunate that conservative women are attacked for their beliefs. It’s unacceptable and it shouldn’t happen. So many Americans are frustrated. So many Americans believe that their beliefs are under attack, and they should be silent and free speech doesn’t exist.”

Being wannabe-professional-moral-scold and a hypocrite annoys me.  Being one who also promotes ignorance about basic free speech concepts influriates me.  You stupid, stupid woman, criticism and ridicule do not impair free speech rights.
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« Reply #84 on: November 10, 2009, 08:20:14 PM »

Quote from: Mr. Fed on November 10, 2009, 08:16:09 PM

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“Americans heard only bits and pieces of what really happened,” Prejean said. “I think that there is a liberal bias in the media, and it’s unfortunate that conservative women are attacked for their beliefs. It’s unacceptable and it shouldn’t happen. So many Americans are frustrated. So many Americans believe that their beliefs are under attack, and they should be silent and free speech doesn’t exist.”

Being wannabe-professional-moral-scold and a hypocrite annoys me.  Being one who also promotes ignorance about basic free speech concepts influriates me.  You stupid, stupid woman, criticism and ridicule do not impair free speech rights.

 Bring your own!
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« Reply #85 on: November 10, 2009, 08:20:56 PM »

Quote from: Blackadar on November 10, 2009, 07:43:17 PM

Quote from: godhugh on November 10, 2009, 07:19:53 PM

Ah well, when you're wrong you're wrong, but I don't have the same moral objections over a personal sex tape as I do over Big Boobs Bonanza 8 or something.

Why would you have any moral objections about Big Boobs Bonanza?  Seriously, what do you care what happens between consenting adults?

That's a debate for the Politics & Religion forum, and it's one I'm perfectly willing to have if you want. I will say that my beliefs aren't as black/white as my sentence there probably makes it seem (I could care less if you want to watch some porn, but I have objections under certain circumstances), but I was in a hurry slywink.

And yeah, she made a sex tape and her statements certainly make her seem like a hypocrite. My specific objection was to classifying a personal sex tape as porn, but I am apparently technically incorrect on that.
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« Reply #86 on: November 10, 2009, 09:21:45 PM »

This is just ridiculous!!!!

The video should have been leaked by now!  icon_wink
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« Reply #87 on: November 10, 2009, 09:35:49 PM »

Quote from: leo8877 on November 10, 2009, 09:21:45 PM

This is just ridiculous!!!!

The video should have been leaked by now!  icon_wink

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« Reply #88 on: November 10, 2009, 10:09:37 PM »

I'd still like to know how this is not extortion though. I mean this sex tape has nothing to do with her case, does it?

If I sue McDonald's because their coffee is too hot, is it ok for them to investigate me and find a tape of me getting a hummer from a tranny and telling me, "hey, what say we settle this case or this tape goes public?"
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« Reply #89 on: November 10, 2009, 10:12:32 PM »

Quote from: Mr. Fed on November 09, 2009, 04:47:58 PM

Quote from: Brendan on November 09, 2009, 04:35:35 PM

Well, now that we have more details, I'm wondering whether a "solo sex act" still renders her a hypocrite.

That would depend.  The biblical text concerning Onan is interpreted, at least by some, as a prohibition of male masturbation, but I am aware of no similar text regarding female masturbation.  (Indeed, I suspect such a thing was beyond the imagining of the authors or, until very recently, most commentators). 


Hopefully the Conservative Bible Project will address if this is a sin. Then we'll know what to think.
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« Reply #90 on: November 10, 2009, 10:17:02 PM »

Quote from: cheeba on November 10, 2009, 10:09:37 PM

I'd still like to know how this is not extortion though. I mean this sex tape has nothing to do with her case, does it?

If I sue McDonald's because their coffee is too hot, is it ok for them to investigate me and find a tape of me getting a hummer from a tranny and telling me, "hey, what say we settle this case or this tape goes public?"

Well it would depend on her contract.  I don't know the specifics but her contract does have certain morality clauses so if the jury found she violated those clauses she may lose everything but maybe not.  I guess she looked at the odds and decided she would rather take the money than risk losing it all.

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« Reply #91 on: November 10, 2009, 10:39:58 PM »

Making a porn movie, or even showing a pair of titties on film or picture, is enough to get disqualified from these competitions, and the participants have to sign a contract that says they haven't done any of these things before.

A girl who won Miss Norway a few years ago (Aylar Lie) turned out to have lied to get into the competition. She had been in several commercial porn movies recorded in the US, so she was immediately disqualified and the crown turned over to the next in line.
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« Reply #92 on: November 10, 2009, 10:47:34 PM »

Quote from: cheeba on November 10, 2009, 10:09:37 PM

I'd still like to know how this is not extortion though. I mean this sex tape has nothing to do with her case, does it?

If I sue McDonald's because their coffee is too hot, is it ok for them to investigate me and find a tape of me getting a hummer from a tranny and telling me, "hey, what say we settle this case or this tape goes public?"

1.  It does have to do with her case, because one of her claims is that she was defamed -- that is, that her reputation was harmed.  Also, it goes to the sincerity of the beliefs that she claims are the reason for her removal.
2.  The law of extortion, as applied to settlement discussions, is murky.  Just ask the Lord of the Dance.  Bottom line, though, pointing out in settlement discussions that something unflattering will come out in discovery is almost certainly not extortion.  If they'd told her "dismiss your suit by noon tomorrow, with no conditions, or we will release this tape on the internet," that might be extortion. 
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« Reply #93 on: November 11, 2009, 01:19:27 AM »

Quote from: Mr. Fed on November 10, 2009, 08:16:09 PM

Oh, and also:

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“Americans heard only bits and pieces of what really happened,” Prejean said. “I think that there is a liberal bias in the media, and it’s unfortunate that conservative women are attacked for their beliefs. It’s unacceptable and it shouldn’t happen. So many Americans are frustrated. So many Americans believe that their beliefs are under attack, and they should be silent and free speech doesn’t exist.”

Being wannabe-professional-moral-scold and a hypocrite annoys me.  Being one who also promotes ignorance about basic free speech concepts influriates me.  You stupid, stupid woman, criticism and ridicule do not impair free speech rights.

If there is a campaign to silence Carrie Prejean's free speech, she has at least waged a valiant battle against it with her campaign to promote $27.95 Speech ($18.45 Speech at Amazon.com through the weekend).
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« Reply #94 on: November 12, 2009, 06:41:11 AM »

I've visited this thread four times now solely to pop in and check out the great pic in the first thread  icon_lol
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« Reply #95 on: November 12, 2009, 01:44:40 PM »

Seeing a clip of her on Larry King it is clear both she and Palin are using their "conservative christian" values as a chance to cash in...how very Christ like those two paragons of virtue are.
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« Reply #96 on: November 12, 2009, 05:14:23 PM »

Boyfriend, for whom she made the video, is now saying that she and her handlers have been asking him to lie and say that she made it when she was 17 -- rather than the truth, that she made it while she was 20 and competing for Miss California.

Values!

(Of course, he may be a liar.)
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« Reply #97 on: November 12, 2009, 05:30:17 PM »

Quote from: Shkspr on November 11, 2009, 01:19:27 AM

If there is a campaign to silence Carrie Prejean's free speech, she has at least waged a valiant battle against it with her campaign to promote $27.95 Speech ($18.45 Speech at Amazon.com through the weekend).

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« Reply #98 on: November 12, 2009, 07:37:34 PM »

Quote from: Mr. Fed on November 12, 2009, 05:14:23 PM

Boyfriend, for whom she made the video, is now saying that she and her handlers have been asking him to lie and say that she made it when she was 17 -- rather than the truth, that she made it while she was 20 and competing for Miss California.

Values!

(Of course, he may be a liar.)

If she made it when 17, couldn't she then be charged with production of child pornography?
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« Reply #99 on: November 13, 2009, 11:22:09 PM »

The odds just went up.  There are supposedly seven more tapes ... and 30 photos.
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« Reply #100 on: November 13, 2009, 11:23:41 PM »

Quote from: Isgrimnur on November 13, 2009, 11:22:09 PM

The odds just went up.  There are supposedly seven more tapes ... and 30 photos.

Man this chick can't get out of her own way.  Fantastic!   Bring your own!
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« Reply #101 on: November 14, 2009, 04:53:38 AM »

Soooo... when are these to be leaked?
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