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« Reply #40 on: November 06, 2009, 03:08:23 PM »

Ah, sex out of marriage.  Forgot that one.   icon_biggrin
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« Reply #41 on: November 06, 2009, 03:46:26 PM »

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Again, I think Fed knew about this tape. icon_wink
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« Reply #42 on: November 06, 2009, 03:52:05 PM »

Let's do some clever quote adjustments!


Quote from: Fireball1244 on November 06, 2009, 03:04:29 PM

She's not married. If you're a holier-than-thou Christian who condemns "gay" people because of the centrality of your Christian faith in your life, you don't get to go and have sex out of wedlock and not be called a hypocrite. The sex tape isn't why she's a hypocrite, it's proof that she's a hypocrite.

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« Reply #43 on: November 06, 2009, 04:42:41 PM »

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on November 06, 2009, 03:52:05 PM

Let's do some clever quote adjustments!


Quote from: Fireball1244 on November 06, 2009, 03:04:29 PM

She's not married. If you're a holier-than-thou Christian who condemns "gay" people because of the centrality of your Christian faith in your life, you don't get to go and have sex out of wedlock and not be called a hypocrite. The sex tape isn't why she's a hypocrite, it's proof that she's a hypocrite.



I would agree with your clever quote adjustment. However, it was the reaction she first got for her "honest" answer to a "loaded" question posed to her by a dickwad with an agenda that caused all this. If she had just answered in a "PC" manner no one would have cared what followed.
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« Reply #44 on: November 06, 2009, 05:54:22 PM »

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on November 06, 2009, 03:52:05 PM

Let's do some clever quote adjustments!


Quote from: Fireball1244 on November 06, 2009, 03:04:29 PM

She's not married. If you're a holier-than-thou Christian who condemns "gay" people because of the centrality of your Christian faith in your life, you don't get to go and have sex out of wedlock and not be called a hypocrite. The sex tape isn't why she's a hypocrite, it's proof that she's a hypocrite.



I put "Christian faith" in quotes in my posting because I was quoting the exact term she has used over and over again, and for no other purpose.
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« Reply #45 on: November 06, 2009, 06:16:42 PM »

I would argue that you can find a very high percentage of "Christians" who have had pre-marital sex. I don't think that is that big a thing anymore, or has been for many, many years.
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« Reply #46 on: November 06, 2009, 06:21:31 PM »

Quote from: Scuzz on November 06, 2009, 06:16:42 PM

I would argue that you can find a very high percentage of "Christians" who have had pre-marital sex. I don't think that is that big a thing anymore, or has been for many, many years.

The people this chick is trying to sell herself to certainly think it is and she knows it.  That's why it took 15 seconds for her to drop her $1 mil lawsuit.
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« Reply #47 on: November 06, 2009, 06:42:02 PM »

Quote from: Scuzz on November 06, 2009, 06:16:42 PM

I would argue that you can find a very high percentage of "Christians" who have had pre-marital sex. I don't think that is that big a thing anymore, or has been for many, many years.

It's not that she's having premarital sex. It's that she's using her belief in Christian morality as a reason to oppose granting people like me marriage, while not living up to Christian morality herself. That makes her a hypocrite and hypocrites deserve to be outed and mocked.

Don't tell me your Christian morals are so very essential and strong that I must be reduced to second class citizenship in my own nation unless you're obeying every jot and tittle of the damned book yourself.

Mot, eye, beam, blah blah blah.
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« Reply #48 on: November 06, 2009, 07:48:04 PM »

I am curious to see this video.
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« Reply #49 on: November 06, 2009, 08:27:50 PM »

Quote from: JayDee on November 06, 2009, 07:48:04 PM

I am curious to see this video.

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« Reply #50 on: November 06, 2009, 08:28:18 PM »

Quote from: Fireball1244 on November 06, 2009, 05:54:22 PM

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on November 06, 2009, 03:52:05 PM

Let's do some clever quote adjustments!


Quote from: Fireball1244 on November 06, 2009, 03:04:29 PM

She's not married. If you're a holier-than-thou Christian who condemns "gay" people because of the centrality of your Christian faith in your life, you don't get to go and have sex out of wedlock and not be called a hypocrite. The sex tape isn't why she's a hypocrite, it's proof that she's a hypocrite.



I put "Christian faith" in quotes in my posting because I was quoting the exact term she has used over and over again, and for no other purpose.

I apologize.
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« Reply #51 on: November 06, 2009, 09:44:42 PM »

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Quote from: Scuzz on November 06, 2009, 06:16:42 PM

I would argue that you can find a very high percentage of "Christians" who have had pre-marital sex. I don't think that is that big a thing anymore, or has been for many, many years.

The people this chick is trying to sell herself to certainly think it is and she knows it.  That's why it took 15 seconds for her to drop her $1 mil lawsuit.

it's not the news that she had pre-marital sex...it's the fact that it is on film for all the world to see, and if released alot of the world would see it.    eek
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« Reply #52 on: November 06, 2009, 09:47:04 PM »

Quote from: Fireball1244 on November 06, 2009, 06:42:02 PM

Quote from: Scuzz on November 06, 2009, 06:16:42 PM

I would argue that you can find a very high percentage of "Christians" who have had pre-marital sex. I don't think that is that big a thing anymore, or has been for many, many years.

It's not that she's having premarital sex. It's that she's using her belief in Christian morality as a reason to oppose granting people like me marriage, while not living up to Christian morality herself. That makes her a hypocrite and hypocrites deserve to be outed and mocked.

Don't tell me your Christian morals are so very essential and strong that I must be reduced to second class citizenship in my own nation unless you're obeying every jot and tittle of the damned book yourself.

Mot, eye, beam, blah blah blah.

what would your feelings about her be if, after answering the original question, she had just disappeared when her 15 minutes was up.......?
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« Reply #53 on: November 06, 2009, 10:12:22 PM »

She and Perez deserve each other.
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« Reply #54 on: November 07, 2009, 03:10:26 AM »

Perhaps this may help explain why she just might be a hypocrite:

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Prejean is keeping busy talking to Dr. James Dobson about how Satan tried to tempt her with a question about gay marriage at the Miss USA pageant.

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Check out Prejean's exchange yesterday with Matt Lauer (video above, transcript below), where she refuses to back off an inch from her opposition to gay marriage. When's the last time you saw a high-profile public figure, other than a Christian-right leader, do that on a similarly divisive issue?

    Ms. PREJEAN: I knew at that moment after I had answered the question, I knew that I was not going to win because of my answer.

    LAUER: Because you had spoken from your heart.

    Ms. PREJEAN: Because I had spoken from my heart, from my beliefs and for my God.

    LAUER: Well, OK, so let me ask you this. So if I were to—and I won't ask you. But if I were to ask you the very same question right now and say you get a do-over on this, how badly do you want to win that title? Would you have answered it differently?

    Ms. PREJEAN: No, I wouldn't have answered it differently. I think that the way that I answered it, you know, might have been offensive to people, and I said in no offense to anybody, I did not want to offend anybody. But I think with that question specifically, it's not about being politically correct. For me it was being biblically correct.

    LAUER: He says he hopes this doesn't usher in an era where contestants are subjectively judged on religious or moral or political beliefs.

    Ms. PREJEAN: And I think it's unfortunate that a lot of pageant girls, you know, they have the pressure. Like Claudia Jordan said—she was one of the judges, she was great. She said that, you know, I should have been more in the middle, I shouldn't have given a specific answer. But that goes against what I stand for. And when I'm asked a specific question, I'm going to give a specific answer. I'm not going to stand in the middle. I'm going to take one side or the other.

    LAUER: Carrie, you came so close.

    Ms. PREJEAN: And I am—I am so proud of myself and I have so many people that are so proud of me. And it wasn't what God wanted for my life that night.

Not being a "conservative" christian I cannot say with absolute certainty but I think that the god Miss Prejean is referring to and the one Dobson adheres to is not a proponent of sex outside marriage.  In fact depending on the story of the day all the Christian conservative big guns have made hay with promiscuity ruining the nation.

What do you think Miss Prejean would have answered were her question on whether pre-marital sex was okay?
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« Reply #55 on: November 07, 2009, 05:00:31 AM »

Quote from: Scuzz on November 06, 2009, 09:47:04 PM

Quote from: Fireball1244 on November 06, 2009, 06:42:02 PM

Quote from: Scuzz on November 06, 2009, 06:16:42 PM

I would argue that you can find a very high percentage of "Christians" who have had pre-marital sex. I don't think that is that big a thing anymore, or has been for many, many years.

It's not that she's having premarital sex. It's that she's using her belief in Christian morality as a reason to oppose granting people like me marriage, while not living up to Christian morality herself. That makes her a hypocrite and hypocrites deserve to be outed and mocked.

Don't tell me your Christian morals are so very essential and strong that I must be reduced to second class citizenship in my own nation unless you're obeying every jot and tittle of the damned book yourself.

Mot, eye, beam, blah blah blah.

what would your feelings about her be if, after answering the original question, she had just disappeared when her 15 minutes was up.......?

I would have no feelings for her whatsoever. In fact, if you care to dig up the thread from when this woman first appeared on the public scene, you'll find that I did not jump on her for her answer at the pageant, and thought the question was a stupid thing for that troll Peretz to ask. I didn't wash my hands of this dingbat until she proceeded to play the woe-is-me victim of the big-mean-gays and go around preaching about her superior morality and Christian fortitude.
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« Reply #56 on: November 07, 2009, 05:48:32 AM »

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LAUER: Well, OK, so let me ask you this. So if I were to—and I won't ask you. But if I were to ask you the very same question right now and say you get a do-over on this, how badly do you want to win that title? Would you have answered it differently?

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« Reply #57 on: November 07, 2009, 05:50:49 AM »

"im not going to ask you, but lets say HYPOTHETICALLY i asked you - what would you say?"

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thats even better than the "question mark condom"

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« Reply #58 on: November 07, 2009, 01:20:54 PM »

No, no. You're supposed to ask if he's STOPPED doing it. Oh and thanks to Ironrod. I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks she's hideous.

Quote from: Doopri on November 07, 2009, 05:50:49 AM

"im not going to ask you, but lets say HYPOTHETICALLY i asked you - what would you say?"

smile

thats even better than the "question mark condom"

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« Reply #59 on: November 09, 2009, 04:02:46 PM »

The pageant's lawyers are hardcore.

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Carrie Prejean wasn't the only member of her family who got a peek at Carrie's solo sex tape -- TMZ has learned her MOM was in the room when the Miss California USA lawyers
pressed play.

Sources tell TMZ Carrie's mom was in shock -- instantly turning sheet white as she watched her daughter give herself a hand.


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« Reply #60 on: November 09, 2009, 04:33:18 PM »

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« Reply #61 on: November 09, 2009, 04:35:35 PM »

Well, now that we have more details, I'm wondering whether a "solo sex act" still renders her a hypocrite.
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« Reply #62 on: November 09, 2009, 04:47:58 PM »

Quote from: Brendan on November 09, 2009, 04:35:35 PM

Well, now that we have more details, I'm wondering whether a "solo sex act" still renders her a hypocrite.

That would depend.  The biblical text concerning Onan is interpreted, at least by some, as a prohibition of male masturbation, but I am aware of no similar text regarding female masturbation.  (Indeed, I suspect such a thing was beyond the imagining of the authors or, until very recently, most commentators).  Plus, there's the angle of engaging in sexual conduct in front of a non-spouse.

I'm sure one could come up with an elaborate justification for how it's not a violation of the religious prohibitions she professes to respect.  But it wouldn't be a particularly persuasive justification.

By the way, I wouldn't consider her an obnoxious hypocrite if she hadn't used the opportunity of Perez Hilton acting like a big douche to turn herself into a big purity symbol/culture victim.
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« Reply #63 on: November 09, 2009, 04:53:36 PM »

Quote from: Fireball1244 on November 07, 2009, 05:00:31 AM

Quote from: Scuzz on November 06, 2009, 09:47:04 PM

Quote from: Fireball1244 on November 06, 2009, 06:42:02 PM

Quote from: Scuzz on November 06, 2009, 06:16:42 PM

I would argue that you can find a very high percentage of "Christians" who have had pre-marital sex. I don't think that is that big a thing anymore, or has been for many, many years.

It's not that she's having premarital sex. It's that she's using her belief in Christian morality as a reason to oppose granting people like me marriage, while not living up to Christian morality herself. That makes her a hypocrite and hypocrites deserve to be outed and mocked.

Don't tell me your Christian morals are so very essential and strong that I must be reduced to second class citizenship in my own nation unless you're obeying every jot and tittle of the damned book yourself.

Mot, eye, beam, blah blah blah.

what would your feelings about her be if, after answering the original question, she had just disappeared when her 15 minutes was up.......?

I would have no feelings for her whatsoever. In fact, if you care to dig up the thread from when this woman first appeared on the public scene, you'll find that I did not jump on her for her answer at the pageant, and thought the question was a stupid thing for that troll Peretz to ask. I didn't wash my hands of this dingbat until she proceeded to play the woe-is-me victim of the big-mean-gays and go around preaching about her superior morality and Christian fortitude.

I think she was bushwacked and probably in shock over how things went and that the first reaction she had was to fall back on her religion. That she continued pontificating for too long is probably what most people object to.
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« Reply #64 on: November 09, 2009, 05:27:10 PM »

Quote from: Brendan on November 09, 2009, 04:35:35 PM

Well, now that we have more details, I'm wondering whether a "solo sex act" still renders her a hypocrite.

I'd probably let her off on a technicality.  What I'm wondering now is why tape something like that?  Bizarre.
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« Reply #65 on: November 09, 2009, 05:39:28 PM »

Quote from: Geezer on November 09, 2009, 05:27:10 PM

Quote from: Brendan on November 09, 2009, 04:35:35 PM

Well, now that we have more details, I'm wondering whether a "solo sex act" still renders her a hypocrite.

I'd probably let her off on a technicality.  What I'm wondering now is why tape something like that?  Bizarre.

Hi, welcome to the Internet.  Tongue

The bigger question is, how has this tape not been released anywhere?
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« Reply #66 on: November 09, 2009, 06:37:26 PM »

I personally won't judge her until i have seen the video in question myself smile

I'm thinking that's the only thing an honest man can too....anyone else?
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« Reply #67 on: November 10, 2009, 12:23:22 AM »

OK, this is hypocrisy.

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In her new "tell-all" book, Carrie dedicates an entire passage to bitch about "pornography," writing:

"Unfortunately, pornography has become mainstreamed -- it rushes at us through big screens, portable screens; soft-core porn is on mainstream TV cable stations, hard-core porn is just a mouse click away on the internet, and the envelope of what seems acceptable seems to get pushed farther and farther as more and more people are exposed to this material.

The result is that girls grow up in a culture where it is hard to have an innocent, healthy, normal view of themselves, how they should behave, how they should act, and how they should dress."

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« Reply #68 on: November 10, 2009, 12:36:42 AM »

Quote from: Mr. Fed on November 10, 2009, 12:23:22 AM

The result is that girls grow up in a culture where it is hard to have an innocent, healthy, normal view of themselves, how they should behave, how they should act, and how they should dress."

Hey, if going wrist-deep inside yourself isn't innocent and healthy, then what is?
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« Reply #69 on: November 10, 2009, 03:19:33 AM »

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"Unfortunately, pornography has become mainstreamed -- it rushes at us through big screens, portable screens; soft-core porn is on mainstream TV cable stations, hard-core porn is just a mouse click away on the internet, and the envelope of what seems acceptable seems to get pushed farther and farther as more and more people are exposed to this material.

The result is that girls grow up in a culture where it is hard to have an innocent, healthy, normal view of themselves, how they should behave, how they should act, and how they should dress."


She's right. Maybe she stops short of saying that she's one of the girls affected by it....but she's not being hypocritical in that passage.

I can condemn pornography and still be working to break from from an addiction to pornography...there's no hypocrisy there.
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« Reply #70 on: November 10, 2009, 04:33:17 AM »

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on November 10, 2009, 03:19:33 AM

Quote from: Mr. Fed on November 10, 2009, 12:23:22 AM


"Unfortunately, pornography has become mainstreamed -- it rushes at us through big screens, portable screens; soft-core porn is on mainstream TV cable stations, hard-core porn is just a mouse click away on the internet, and the envelope of what seems acceptable seems to get pushed farther and farther as more and more people are exposed to this material.

The result is that girls grow up in a culture where it is hard to have an innocent, healthy, normal view of themselves, how they should behave, how they should act, and how they should dress."


She's right. Maybe she stops short of saying that she's one of the girls affected by it....but she's not being hypocritical in that passage.

I can condemn pornography and still be working to break from from an addiction to pornography...there's no hypocrisy there.


Except for the fact that she was making her own.  She's wallowing in hypocrisy. 
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« Reply #71 on: November 10, 2009, 05:30:28 AM »

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on November 10, 2009, 03:19:33 AM

Quote from: Mr. Fed on November 10, 2009, 12:23:22 AM


"Unfortunately, pornography has become mainstreamed -- it rushes at us through big screens, portable screens; soft-core porn is on mainstream TV cable stations, hard-core porn is just a mouse click away on the internet, and the envelope of what seems acceptable seems to get pushed farther and farther as more and more people are exposed to this material.

The result is that girls grow up in a culture where it is hard to have an innocent, healthy, normal view of themselves, how they should behave, how they should act, and how they should dress."


She's right. Maybe she stops short of saying that she's one of the girls affected by it....but she's not being hypocritical in that passage.

I can condemn pornography and still be working to break from from an addiction to pornography...there's no hypocrisy there.


She needs to spend some quality time with Matthew 7: 3-5:

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3"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.

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« Reply #72 on: November 10, 2009, 05:55:33 AM »

Quote from: Mr. Fed on November 09, 2009, 04:47:58 PM

Quote from: Brendan on November 09, 2009, 04:35:35 PM

Well, now that we have more details, I'm wondering whether a "solo sex act" still renders her a hypocrite.

That would depend.  The biblical text concerning Onan is interpreted, at least by some, as a prohibition of male masturbation, but I am aware of no similar text regarding female masturbation.  (Indeed, I suspect such a thing was beyond the imagining of the authors or, until very recently, most commentators).  Plus, there's the angle of engaging in sexual conduct in front of a non-spouse.

I'm sure one could come up with an elaborate justification for how it's not a violation of the religious prohibitions she professes to respect.  But it wouldn't be a particularly persuasive justification.

By the way, I wouldn't consider her an obnoxious hypocrite if she hadn't used the opportunity of Perez Hilton acting like a big douche to turn herself into a big purity symbol/culture victim.

That's because when males masturbate they are destroying the seeds of life. Woman don't destroy eggs when masturbating (well as far as I know)
I don't believe it has anything to do with self pleasurement, although lust is a sin.
I guess "Mountain Topping" would not be a sin then  icon_lol
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« Reply #73 on: November 10, 2009, 01:09:48 PM »

Quote from: Biyobi on November 10, 2009, 04:33:17 AM

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on November 10, 2009, 03:19:33 AM

Quote from: Mr. Fed on November 10, 2009, 12:23:22 AM


"Unfortunately, pornography has become mainstreamed -- it rushes at us through big screens, portable screens; soft-core porn is on mainstream TV cable stations, hard-core porn is just a mouse click away on the internet, and the envelope of what seems acceptable seems to get pushed farther and farther as more and more people are exposed to this material.

The result is that girls grow up in a culture where it is hard to have an innocent, healthy, normal view of themselves, how they should behave, how they should act, and how they should dress."


She's right. Maybe she stops short of saying that she's one of the girls affected by it....but she's not being hypocritical in that passage.

I can condemn pornography and still be working to break from from an addiction to pornography...there's no hypocrisy there.


Except for the fact that she was making her own.  She's wallowing in hypocrisy. 

Filming a personal sex tape /= making pornography.
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« Reply #74 on: November 10, 2009, 02:29:31 PM »

Quote from: godhugh on November 10, 2009, 01:09:48 PM

Quote from: Biyobi on November 10, 2009, 04:33:17 AM

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on November 10, 2009, 03:19:33 AM

Quote from: Mr. Fed on November 10, 2009, 12:23:22 AM


"Unfortunately, pornography has become mainstreamed -- it rushes at us through big screens, portable screens; soft-core porn is on mainstream TV cable stations, hard-core porn is just a mouse click away on the internet, and the envelope of what seems acceptable seems to get pushed farther and farther as more and more people are exposed to this material.

The result is that girls grow up in a culture where it is hard to have an innocent, healthy, normal view of themselves, how they should behave, how they should act, and how they should dress."


She's right. Maybe she stops short of saying that she's one of the girls affected by it....but she's not being hypocritical in that passage.

I can condemn pornography and still be working to break from from an addiction to pornography...there's no hypocrisy there.


Except for the fact that she was making her own.  She's wallowing in hypocrisy. 

Filming a personal sex tape /= making pornography.

That's new to me.

por·nog·ra·phy    (pôr-nŏg'rə-fē)   
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1. Sexually explicit pictures, writing, or other material whose primary purpose is to cause sexual arousal.

2. The presentation or production of this material.

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« Reply #75 on: November 10, 2009, 06:37:55 PM »

she says in an interview with Hannity (didn't see it, don't watch Hannity, it is reported on AOL) that she made the tape for her then boyfriend. She also says she was young when she did it but they don't give an age. Makes me wonder how old she is now and how old she was when she did it.

another lesson for all those girls out there who send their BF's pictures of themselves.......
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« Reply #76 on: November 10, 2009, 06:57:35 PM »

Quote from: godhugh on November 10, 2009, 01:09:48 PM

Quote from: Biyobi on November 10, 2009, 04:33:17 AM

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on November 10, 2009, 03:19:33 AM

Quote from: Mr. Fed on November 10, 2009, 12:23:22 AM


"Unfortunately, pornography has become mainstreamed -- it rushes at us through big screens, portable screens; soft-core porn is on mainstream TV cable stations, hard-core porn is just a mouse click away on the internet, and the envelope of what seems acceptable seems to get pushed farther and farther as more and more people are exposed to this material.

The result is that girls grow up in a culture where it is hard to have an innocent, healthy, normal view of themselves, how they should behave, how they should act, and how they should dress."


She's right. Maybe she stops short of saying that she's one of the girls affected by it....but she's not being hypocritical in that passage.

I can condemn pornography and still be working to break from from an addiction to pornography...there's no hypocrisy there.


Except for the fact that she was making her own.  She's wallowing in hypocrisy. 

Filming a personal sex tape /= making pornography.

I don't have any moral objection to someone making a personal sex tape.  But I think it's pornography, by any standard definition, even if it is only for personal use. 
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« Reply #77 on: November 10, 2009, 07:19:53 PM »

Quote from: Mr. Fed on November 10, 2009, 06:57:35 PM

Quote from: godhugh on November 10, 2009, 01:09:48 PM

Quote from: Biyobi on November 10, 2009, 04:33:17 AM

Quote from: SensuousLettuce on November 10, 2009, 03:19:33 AM

Quote from: Mr. Fed on November 10, 2009, 12:23:22 AM


"Unfortunately, pornography has become mainstreamed -- it rushes at us through big screens, portable screens; soft-core porn is on mainstream TV cable stations, hard-core porn is just a mouse click away on the internet, and the envelope of what seems acceptable seems to get pushed farther and farther as more and more people are exposed to this material.

The result is that girls grow up in a culture where it is hard to have an innocent, healthy, normal view of themselves, how they should behave, how they should act, and how they should dress."


She's right. Maybe she stops short of saying that she's one of the girls affected by it....but she's not being hypocritical in that passage.

I can condemn pornography and still be working to break from from an addiction to pornography...there's no hypocrisy there.


Except for the fact that she was making her own.  She's wallowing in hypocrisy. 

Filming a personal sex tape /= making pornography.

I don't have any moral objection to someone making a personal sex tape.  But I think it's pornography, by any standard definition, even if it is only for personal use. 

Huh, I always viewed pornography as something made for or released to the public. But given this and TiLT's definition I appear to be wrong on that.

Ah well, when you're wrong you're wrong, but I don't have the same moral objections over a personal sex tape as I do over Big Boobs Bonanza 8 or something.
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« Reply #78 on: November 10, 2009, 07:37:00 PM »

Quote from: godhugh on November 10, 2009, 07:19:53 PM

Big Boobs Bonanza 8

BBB8 is already out?! I'm still trying to find time to watch BBB7.
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« Reply #79 on: November 10, 2009, 07:41:49 PM »

Now her latest claim is that it's not a sex tape since she "wasn't having sex" in the video.  I think the bullshit meter just pegged over 10 and broke.  Didn't a particular President try an excuse like that with an epic FAIL?  

I'd say her 15 minutes were up long ago, but I want her to continue.  It's too damn entertaining to see her and her supporters squirm wildly as she gets tripped up by something new every other week.
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