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« on: April 29, 2013, 01:54:12 PM »

So I'm watching Graham Norton and he's got on James McAvoy (Scottish), John Bishop (Liverpudlian) and Joanna Lumley (regular old British, I guess? I don't know). And Graham of Course. Here you've got a country the size of a medium sized US State and they've got more accents than you can count. You've got Irish, Welsh, etc. In a country this small wouldn't you expect the accents to start blending together over time?
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« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2013, 02:10:02 PM »

They actually have been blending, and changing too.

There are actually quite a few accents in America, and more than the obvious ones. Within California, they've actually identified quite a few that have diverged.

One thing to note is that one of the major accents we consider British is entirely made up, and willfully adopted by the British, which then just became normal because everybody thought it sounded sophisticated, which it kinda did.

They also had different languages to start with.
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« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2013, 02:15:54 PM »

In Denmark we have 3-4 major accents where people can barely understand each other. And our country is the size of one of your mcdonalds
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« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2013, 02:16:31 PM »

Norway is the same. We've got a whole bunch of very different dialects, which makes it incredibly hard for foreigners to learn the language. Dialects isn't an American phenomenon.
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« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2013, 03:07:31 PM »

Canada as well. There is the East Coast accent, the Newfoundland accent, Quebec French speaking, There is a slight difference in the Western provinces.(I think they put it on to sound like Cowboys)
But coming from England(born in London) even in the city of London there are different accents. Cockney being one. But yeah, I've often pondered that and how it comes to be.
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« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2013, 03:10:33 PM »

Quote from: TiLT on April 29, 2013, 02:16:31 PM

Norway is the same. We've got a whole bunch of very different dialects, which makes it incredibly hard for foreigners to learn the language. Dialects isn't an American phenomenon.

Clearly you have never heard Jive slywink

So what's this about British fakers? Is MO one of these fakers? They must be exposed!
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« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2013, 04:00:10 PM »

Have you ever been to Louisiana?  Accents run all over the board there. 
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« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2013, 04:00:22 PM »

I love British accents, especially when they say 'Let's throw some shrimp on the barbie esse!'.
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« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2013, 04:06:45 PM »

Quote from: McNutt on April 29, 2013, 04:00:10 PM

Have you ever been to Louisiana?  Accents run all over the board there. 

Yeah, Arcanis and Miltonite are like fake Louisana-ers. They just sound like regular southerners. Actually Miltonite doesn't sound southern at all.
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« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2013, 05:09:32 PM »

Liverpudlian has changed actually,nowadays it breaks all sound records for being so high pitched,whereas in the 60s it was quite deep

Mancunian Jason Manford on Liverpool


I am Mancunian..Thank you Teggy!!(Still North West England next to Liverpool),and i don't realise HOW Manc i sound until i hear it back on a sound recorder or whatever

Do you remember Frasier?Daphne was supposed to be from Manchester,but to be honest it was more a Lancashire accent than actual Manchester

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Canada as well. There is the East Coast accent, the Newfoundland accent, Quebec French speaking, There is a slight difference in the Western provinces.(I think they put it on to sound like Cowboys)
But coming from England(born in London) even in the city of London there are different accents. Cockney being one. But yeah, I've often pondered that and how it comes to be.

This is a special Feature on the Dr Strangelove DVD which has Peter Sellers doing various London Accents as well as a few more
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJH-4BNsVlc



as we are on the topic,i know compared to the U.S,Britain is quite small but it is still a large place to us Tongue

I had an XBL friend ask me if I knew a guy who's gamertag was W1nston Church1ll on his friends list just because he was from Britain... retard.. there are still 60 million of us!!


Also,its not just accents that are still different,but words have different meanings as well,this is just Manchester...you don't want to get started on Cockney Rhyming Slang
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Some of Manchester's most notable words, phrases and sayings include 'having a buzz', meaning to have a good time, 'scran' (food - also found in Liverpool and Glasgow ), 'gaff' (residence, house or flat), 'sorted' (O.K.), 'scrote' (low-life), 'safe' (on good terms), 'muppet' (ignorant), 'wool' (from 'woolyback' - a derogatory term for Mancunians) and 'the dibble'[4] referring to the police. The term "madferit" (mad for it), meaning full of enthusiasm, was a phrase that embodied the Madchester era. Influences from Ireland include the pronunciation of the letter 'h' as 'haitch' and the plural of 'you' as 'youse'. However, this pronunciation of 'h' is now widespread, being used by approximately 24% of British people born since 1982

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I love British accents, especially when they say 'Let's throw some shrimp on the barbie esse!'.

I still have no idea why British and Aussie accents get mixed up,its like that woman out of Revolution was supposed to be British,but she was blatantly Australian
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« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2013, 05:20:07 PM »

I like trying to peg accents.  A nurse here got all offended when I tried to peg hers.  I stated, " I know it's not Australian..." and she got all puffed up, a knee-jerk reaction to her being a Kiwi, I suppose. 
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« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2013, 05:50:49 PM »

I can usually spot a heavy Brooklyn, Queens, Lon-Gisland or upstate NY accent pretty well. New England has its share of unique accents too.

My kids are growing up in Florida and I'm starting to hear some local accents in their speech like yesterday when my 9 year old said "room" it sounded like "rum" (no he wasn't talking about rum).
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« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2013, 05:57:42 PM »

We had an Australian over for dinner and I asked her what they thought of New Zealanders. She asked me, "well, what do you think of Canadians?" She seemed quite surprised to hear that Americans don't hate Canadians biggrin

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Do you remember Frasier?Daphne was supposed to be from Manchester,but to be honest it was more a Lancashire accent than actual Manchester

I had to YouTube this and found out that Jane Leeves doesn't sound anything like Daphne. Acting, how does it work?!
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« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2013, 07:22:50 PM »

When I was in Australia, the Kiwi-Aussie rivalry was always evident.(as long as a kiwi and Aussie were present)
I found it interesting enough to ask both sides about it. Most said its just a long standing "thing" based on their origins and allegiences now.

Like the Aussie's identify more with the States, and N.Z. still honour their English heritage. Aussies haven't much love for "pommies" as they call the English. Can't really blame them, their beginnings was that of a penal colony for the un-wanted in England. Their accent's though are very easy to detect who's who. I found Kiwi to be a softer, less harse accent than the Aussies.
Love em both though. Fine countries.
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« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2013, 07:25:37 PM »

There's currently a dustup on Reddit.  The Americans and Aussies have come together to form Ameristralia.  The Canadians and Kiwis felt left out and are trying to start New Zanada
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« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2013, 08:45:17 PM »

Quote from: Teggy on April 29, 2013, 05:57:42 PM

We had an Australian over for dinner and I asked her what they thought of New Zealanders. She asked me, "well, what do you think of Canadians?" She seemed quite surprised to hear that Americans don't hate Canadians biggrin


Who could hate Canadians, eh?
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« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2013, 08:59:37 PM »

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Do you remember Frasier?Daphne was supposed to be from Manchester,but to be honest it was more a Lancashire accent than actual Manchester

I had to YouTube this and found out that Jane Leeves doesn't sound anything like Daphne. Acting, how does it work?!

Just looked it up and she is from Essex(Southern England),now this may be a coincidence but how she speaks in Frasier,is how all Southerners think all Northerners speak Tongue


We had an Australian who worked where i worked in the 90's...he taught me a bit of Aussie Slang,but the only one i can remember and use to this day is 'Acca Dacca' instead of saying AC/DC icon_biggrin
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« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2013, 09:21:11 PM »

Quote from: Isgrimnur on April 29, 2013, 07:25:37 PM

There's currently a dustup on Reddit.  The Americans and Aussies have come together to form Ameristralia.  The Canadians and Kiwis felt left out and are trying to start New Zanada

haha, love it. Kiwinucks.
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« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2013, 09:24:43 PM »

Mom's from Hull, Yorkshire............very Coronation Street...(North England)
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« Reply #19 on: April 30, 2013, 02:02:08 PM »

I've always wondered if foreign people prefer the standard "Hollywood" American accent or the standard Southern Accent? No one could possibly like the New York, New Jersey, or Boston accents so I am leaving them out of this question.
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