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« Reply #40 on: March 18, 2011, 05:21:11 PM »

A funny thing about light speed is that the closer you get to it, the more 2D everything will seem.
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« Reply #41 on: March 18, 2011, 05:21:50 PM »

Quote from: Scraper on March 18, 2011, 05:12:56 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on March 18, 2011, 01:06:42 AM

What?  No!  Who said anything about moving faster than light?


I didn't say that it is possible to move faster than light, just that if you could, you would be able to see into the past, by virtue of arriving somewhere prior to the light being able to show it on your original time.

I understood what you said, but the question you were addressing was "what does the speed of light have to do with time?" and the speed of light has a lot more to do with time than what you suggested.

Your time travel scenario is something any of us can do without even a flux capacitor.  Just look up on a clear night and observe things that happened a million years ago.
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« Reply #42 on: March 18, 2011, 05:35:37 PM »

Enchantment!
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« Reply #43 on: March 18, 2011, 05:42:35 PM »

Quote from: wonderpug on March 18, 2011, 05:21:50 PM

Quote from: Scraper on March 18, 2011, 05:12:56 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on March 18, 2011, 01:06:42 AM

What?  No!  Who said anything about moving faster than light?


I didn't say that it is possible to move faster than light, just that if you could, you would be able to see into the past, by virtue of arriving somewhere prior to the light being able to show it on your original time.

I understood what you said, but the question you were addressing was "what does the speed of light have to do with time?" and the speed of light has a lot more to do with time than what you suggested.

Your time travel scenario is something any of us can do without even a flux capacitor.  Just look up on a clear night and observe things that happened a million years ago.

True enough. Plus my brain hurts.
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« Reply #44 on: March 18, 2011, 06:09:11 PM »

Quote from: Scraper on March 18, 2011, 05:42:35 PM

True enough. Plus my brain hurts.

Let's twist the knife, then!  Shall we?

You're sitting on a bus stop bench that is just sitting there in one spot as benches are known to do.

I, on the other hand, am driving the finest in Hyundai nuclear powered rocket cars and I zoom past you at a ridiculous pace.

Due to special relativity and time dilation, you observe that the Rolex watch I am wearing is advancing much more slowly than your own timepiece.

Naturally, as I look out my Hyundai window I would see your Casio moving much faster than my Rolex, right?  If my time is moving slower, then yours should be faster?

Nope.  To me it looks as if your Casio is moving much more slowly than my Rolex.
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« Reply #45 on: March 18, 2011, 08:35:03 PM »

Quote from: wonderpug on March 18, 2011, 06:09:11 PM

Quote from: Scraper on March 18, 2011, 05:42:35 PM

True enough. Plus my brain hurts.

Let's twist the knife, then!  Shall we?

You're sitting on a bus stop bench that is just sitting there in one spot as benches are known to do.

I, on the other hand, am driving the finest in Hyundai nuclear powered rocket cars and I zoom past you at a ridiculous pace.

Due to special relativity and time dilation, you observe that the Rolex watch I am wearing is advancing much more slowly than your own timepiece.

Naturally, as I look out my Hyundai window I would see your Casio moving much faster than my Rolex, right?  If my time is moving slower, then yours should be faster?

Nope.  To me it looks as if your Casio is moving much more slowly than my Rolex.

Man, those are some big watches.
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« Reply #46 on: March 18, 2011, 11:09:17 PM »

Quote from: wonderpug on March 18, 2011, 06:09:11 PM

Quote from: Scraper on March 18, 2011, 05:42:35 PM

True enough. Plus my brain hurts.

Let's twist the knife, then!  Shall we?

You're sitting on a bus stop bench that is just sitting there in one spot as benches are known to do.

I, on the other hand, am driving the finest in Hyundai nuclear powered rocket cars and I zoom past you at a ridiculous pace.

Due to special relativity and time dilation, you observe that the Rolex watch I am wearing is advancing much more slowly than your own timepiece.

Naturally, as I look out my Hyundai window I would see your Casio moving much faster than my Rolex, right?  If my time is moving slower, then yours should be faster?

Nope.  To me it looks as if your Casio is moving much more slowly than my Rolex.

That's because your Hyundai is actually a piece of junk, and his bench is zooming past you.

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« Reply #47 on: March 19, 2011, 03:20:29 PM »

Quote from: wonderpug on March 18, 2011, 06:09:11 PM

Quote from: Scraper on March 18, 2011, 05:42:35 PM

True enough. Plus my brain hurts.

Let's twist the knife, then!  Shall we?

You're sitting on a bus stop bench that is just sitting there in one spot as benches are known to do.

I, on the other hand, am driving the finest in Hyundai nuclear powered rocket cars and I zoom past you at a ridiculous pace.

Due to special relativity and time dilation, you observe that the Rolex watch I am wearing is advancing much more slowly than your own timepiece.

Naturally, as I look out my Hyundai window I would see your Casio moving much faster than my Rolex, right?  If my time is moving slower, then yours should be faster?

Nope.  To me it looks as if your Casio is moving much more slowly than my Rolex.

Don't you mean "spatial" relativity??
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« Reply #48 on: March 19, 2011, 03:33:37 PM »

No?
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