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« on: May 18, 2008, 06:05:48 AM »

Since ive been in the hospital and am going back Monday the wife and me have been on a movie watching blitz. We've watched all 3 Indiana Jones movies, 3:10 to Yuma, and tonight we watched Die Hard. I have DH2 tomorrow and hope to get the other 2 afterwards. She asked about westerns and I mentioned Unforgiven and that Sharon Stone movie again we've seen once. But we're both wondering how the Bourne trilogy is. We love action movies and the trailers Ive found online seem to point in a good direction. Are they though?
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« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2008, 06:22:23 AM »

The first one's awesome.  The second one is decent enough but not nearly as good as the first.  The third ranges from "almost as good" to "even better" than the first depending on your preference.
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« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2008, 07:11:14 AM »

Good action movies, and certainly worth watching (especially if you haven't read the books). 
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« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2008, 07:30:35 AM »

Wonderpug's opinion perfectly matches my own.  While the second is the worst in the series, it's still pretty good - and the series in all is a bloody fantastic set of films.  Really good fun.
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« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2008, 08:18:39 AM »

I thought the 3rd was the worst in the series. All the movies in the series have quick edits during the action but the 3rd takes it to the extreme.
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« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2008, 09:54:41 AM »

I can't stand the stupid ridiculousness of 'Bond' movies. I like the Bourne series because they're gritty, smart and I really like the way they edit the films - although, I can understand how many did not like the 'closeness' of the 3rd movie - I find it rather intense and put you into the fights rather well.

They are all definitly good, entertaining movies. They're all pretty solid and I recommend them all if entertainment is what you seek.
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« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2008, 10:50:00 AM »

Yeah, they're awesome.   As others have mentioned the action scenes may make you sick if you have a weak stomach for quick edits, but on the whole, the series is excellent.  Good soundtrack, too.
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« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2008, 11:28:21 AM »

I think the Bourne series is fantastic, and easily one of my top 'trilogy' film picks, ever. They are very fast paced and exciting, and the fight scenes are fantastic.

Filmwad even presents an argument that the Bourne series is the best American film trilogy ever made. (link contains spoilers)

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« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2008, 11:37:06 AM »

Yep. One of the best trilogies there is.
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« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2008, 12:22:53 PM »

Get the idea...Just watch them
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« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2008, 02:02:01 PM »

If youve read the books then completely separate them movies from the book plots, except for the absolute basics they are completely different.
 If you can do that, the movies are quite good as a separate entity.
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« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2008, 02:05:53 PM »

Excellent flicks.  Definitely worth a watch.
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« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2008, 02:36:40 PM »

First is outstanding (and the best).  Second and third are very good as well. 
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« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2008, 02:41:12 PM »

All three are Awesome with a capital A.

Good luck with Die Hard 3.   Blech.
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« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2008, 02:54:38 PM »

Quote from: Beer Goggles on May 18, 2008, 02:41:12 PM

All three are Awesome with a capital A.

Good luck with Die Hard 3.   Blech.

I like Die Hard 3.  The ending is crap but I thought the rest was pretty clever.  If anything, Die Hard 3 gets better for me as time goes by- I like it now more than I did in '95. 
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« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2008, 03:20:26 PM »

Me like Matt Damon  icon_lol

I love Bourne Trilogy! It's one of better & smarter action movie that came out in a while.
Love the twist in the beginning of second movie.
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« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2008, 03:29:28 PM »

Quote from: Beer Goggles on May 18, 2008, 02:41:12 PM

All three are Awesome with a capital A.

Good luck with Die Hard 3.   Blech.

Strongly disagree.

Order of awesomeness: 1, 4, 3, 2
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« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2008, 04:03:06 PM »

I've only seen each movie once, but I enjoyed all three. The only thing I hated was the editing during the action sequences - it seemed a little shaky.
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« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2008, 06:08:01 PM »

I think I liked the second 2 Borne movies about the same. The first one just blows them away, and they pale in comparison. Instead of the greatness of the first one, they're just really good.
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« Reply #19 on: May 18, 2008, 06:58:39 PM »

Quote from: McBa1n on May 18, 2008, 09:54:41 AM

I can't stand the stupid ridiculousness of 'Bond' movies.

Watch Casino Royale.
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« Reply #20 on: May 18, 2008, 07:31:45 PM »

Thanks all. You've sold us on them. We are going to watch them soon as we can get them together.
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« Reply #21 on: May 19, 2008, 02:00:34 AM »

Nobody in this thread is *beep*ing Matt Damon? I thought, surely some one would be. I am disappointed.
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« Reply #22 on: May 19, 2008, 04:27:45 AM »

Quote from: Kyosho on May 19, 2008, 02:00:34 AM

Nobody in this thread is *beep*ing Matt Damon? I thought, surely some one would be. I am disappointed.

no, but I'm *beep*ing Conan O'Brien.  I likes the redheads.....
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« Reply #23 on: May 19, 2008, 04:53:41 AM »

Watch out for the hair flop. I hear it's dangerous.
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« Reply #24 on: May 19, 2008, 04:55:46 AM »

I really enjoyed all the Bourne movies.  I would recommend them.
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« Reply #25 on: May 19, 2008, 05:18:49 AM »

Quote from: Kyosho on May 19, 2008, 04:53:41 AM

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« Reply #26 on: May 19, 2008, 05:23:44 AM »

I finally saw the first one last night. Excellent.

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« Reply #27 on: May 19, 2008, 08:05:37 AM »

Quote from: McBa1n on May 18, 2008, 09:54:41 AM

I can't stand the stupid ridiculousness of 'Bond' movies.

I think the last Bond movie was quite gritty.  And I think the reason why it was so was because the Bourne movies led the way and showed them how to do it right.  Good on the Bourne movies.
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« Reply #28 on: May 19, 2008, 05:11:55 PM »

Quote from: zinckiwi on May 18, 2008, 06:58:39 PM

Quote from: McBa1n on May 18, 2008, 09:54:41 AM

I can't stand the stupid ridiculousness of 'Bond' movies.

Watch Casino Royale.

Haha - I made it about an hour in and passed out (which is weird, I never nap in the afternoon anymore). It was pretty cool, but not really my bag. Really have no desire to see it all, although I probably will when it's on TV.
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« Reply #29 on: May 19, 2008, 05:45:05 PM »

I hate Bond, but I loved Casino Royale and so did my wife, to my surprise.

BTW, as far as Bourne goes, it's one of my favorite trilogies, if not my favorite.  Definitely watch them.
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« Reply #30 on: May 19, 2008, 05:49:54 PM »

Quote from: Eel Snave on May 19, 2008, 05:45:05 PM

I hate Bond, but I loved Casino Royale and so did my wife, to my surprise.


+1.  My wife and I couldn't stand any of the Bond movies, especially the last one with Hally Berry.  Ugh, what a train wreck.  Casino Royale, on the other hand, is one of the best action movies in years, IMHO.

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BTW, as far as Bourne goes, it's one of my favorite trilogies, if not my favorite.  Definitely watch them.

+20.  My wife gets pissed off at me when I buy the Collector's Edition of anything, and she suggested that we buy the Bourne box set.  biggrin
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« Reply #31 on: May 19, 2008, 05:53:59 PM »

Quote from: Eel Snave on May 19, 2008, 05:45:05 PM

I hate Bond, but I loved Casino Royale and so did my wife, to my surprise.

Quote from: McBa1n on May 18, 2008, 09:54:41 AM

I can't stand the stupid ridiculousness of 'Bond' movies.

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+1.  My wife and I couldn't stand any of the Bond movies, especially the last one with Hally Berry.  Ugh, what a train wreck.

Is the Bond hate directed at the Pierce Brosnan releases or the Bond series in general?  I hated the Brosnan ones but I can't see you guys could hate on Thunderball, Goldfinger, and From Russia With Love.  A big part of why I loved Casino Royale was because it brought things back closer to how the old movies felt.
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« Reply #32 on: May 19, 2008, 06:00:37 PM »

Quote from: wonderpug on May 19, 2008, 05:53:59 PM

Quote from: Eel Snave on May 19, 2008, 05:45:05 PM

I hate Bond, but I loved Casino Royale and so did my wife, to my surprise.

Quote from: McBa1n on May 18, 2008, 09:54:41 AM

I can't stand the stupid ridiculousness of 'Bond' movies.

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+1.  My wife and I couldn't stand any of the Bond movies, especially the last one with Hally Berry.  Ugh, what a train wreck.

Is the Bond hate directed at the Pierce Brosnan releases or the Bond series in general?  I hated the Brosnan ones but I can't see you guys could hate on Thunderball, Goldfinger, and From Russia With Love.  A big part of why I loved Casino Royale was because it brought things back closer to how the old movies felt.

To me, it was anything past Roger Moore, really.  I grew up watching the Roger Moore Bond, and later watched Sean Connery.  Timothy Dalton and Pierce Brosnan's Bond movies were terrible.  I think Brosnan was a good Bond, but the movies themselves were horrid.  Dalton was just bad from the get-go.
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« Reply #33 on: May 19, 2008, 07:43:34 PM »

Quote from: JayDee on May 18, 2008, 03:29:28 PM

Quote from: Beer Goggles on May 18, 2008, 02:41:12 PM

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Good luck with Die Hard 3.   Blech.

Strongly disagree.

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« Reply #34 on: May 20, 2008, 03:13:06 PM »

Hey, I couldn't stand Goldfinger.  That tells you what I think about Bond normally.
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« Reply #35 on: May 20, 2008, 03:23:44 PM »

Haven't read the books.  Loved the movies.  I'm not a fan of Matt Damon nor ADD editing but for some reason both work really well in these movies.
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« Reply #36 on: May 20, 2008, 07:27:49 PM »

The only issue I have with the Bourne movies which I believe is indisputable is the fact that each movie follows the exact same formula and by the time you reach the third movie you can almost guess what you expect. Bourne investigates identity, gets too close and then spotted, makes epic escape, yada yada yada. The only unique aspect of the third film was the conclusion, which obviously the first two couldn't provide.
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« Reply #37 on: May 20, 2008, 08:10:18 PM »

Quote from: Ridah on May 20, 2008, 07:27:49 PM

The only issue I have with the Bourne movies which I believe is indisputable is the fact that each movie follows the exact same formula and by the time you reach the third movie you can almost guess what you expect. Bourne investigates identity, gets too close and then spotted, makes epic escape, yada yada yada.

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« Reply #38 on: May 21, 2008, 09:18:21 AM »

Quote from: rickfc on May 19, 2008, 06:00:37 PM

Quote from: wonderpug on May 19, 2008, 05:53:59 PM

Quote from: Eel Snave on May 19, 2008, 05:45:05 PM

I hate Bond, but I loved Casino Royale and so did my wife, to my surprise.

Quote from: McBa1n on May 18, 2008, 09:54:41 AM

I can't stand the stupid ridiculousness of 'Bond' movies.

Quote from: rickfc on May 19, 2008, 05:49:54 PM

+1.  My wife and I couldn't stand any of the Bond movies, especially the last one with Hally Berry.  Ugh, what a train wreck.

Is the Bond hate directed at the Pierce Brosnan releases or the Bond series in general?  I hated the Brosnan ones but I can't see you guys could hate on Thunderball, Goldfinger, and From Russia With Love.  A big part of why I loved Casino Royale was because it brought things back closer to how the old movies felt.

To me, it was anything past Roger Moore, really.  I grew up watching the Roger Moore Bond, and later watched Sean Connery.  Timothy Dalton and Pierce Brosnan's Bond movies were terrible.  I think Brosnan was a good Bond, but the movies themselves were horrid.  Dalton was just bad from the get-go.

I think there are two style of Bond, Sean Connery style and Roger Moore style. All actors that play after copy one or the other. You can easily find out which style it is by lookin at the cloth they wear and their hair. If their hair mess up after fight then it is Sean Connery style. If their hair stay in place, then it is Roger Moore style.smile

Pierce Brosnan is Roger Moore style. The last Bond and Timothy Dalton are Sean Connery style. Since I grew up during Roger Moore era, I prefer Pierce Brosnan's Bond.
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« Reply #39 on: May 21, 2008, 04:57:31 PM »

I found the quick edits in 2 were worse than 3; the director held them a little longer in the most recent one.

Oh, and Casino Royale kicked all kinds of ass. Dalton was a Ken doll; no life and no lust. Just a generic hump where his crotch should have been. Cripes, they could have replaced him with Mister Rogers.
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