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« on: June 15, 2005, 02:34:57 PM »

Any of you guys going to see it tonight?  I'm going!
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« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2005, 02:41:24 PM »

Probably Saturday matinee.  I have a huge problem paying extra to go see a night showing.
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« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2005, 02:47:18 PM »

Nice part for me is that its the wife and I get Matinee prices as we are students, as does my mom as she is a senior.
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« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2005, 03:28:42 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2005, 04:32:20 PM »

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« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2005, 04:33:53 PM »

Saturday matinee.  The money I save will buy popcorn.  That's how I get my wife to go to these kinds of shows.
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« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2005, 05:56:04 PM »

I wanna see this movie a-bad! I'm getting the feeling that this is the movie I wanted ROTS to be. (Good? Finished? Intelligent? Polished? Thematically unified? Something like that.)
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« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2005, 06:06:06 PM »

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I wanna see this movie a-bad! I'm getting the feeling that this is the movie I wanted ROTS to be. (Good? Finished? Intelligent? Polished? Thematically unified? Something like that.)

Well, it has a more accomplished director behind it (Nolan) who has made 2 pretty good movies...Memento and Insomnia.  I'm not saying Lucas isn't accomplished, it is just that he was there almost 30 years ago now and hasn't regained it back.
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« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2005, 07:41:39 PM »

I liked Batman Begins a *lot.*  Aside from one Batmobile scene that's eerily reminiscent of a gag in The Simpsons -- and which has no effect whatsoever on how the scene plays out -- I'd have a lot of trouble finding fault with this movie.

Highly recommended for fans of the Dark Knight.

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« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2005, 08:16:30 PM »

Thumbs up from me.  I liked the Burton films for the most part, but I like this portrayal of Batman much, much better.  Christian Bale is perfect for the, err, roles.

And yes, despite a tiny smidgeon of cheesy dialogue here and there, Batman Begins is 100x better than Star Wars: Episode 3.  ninja
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« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2005, 09:50:56 PM »

Roger Ebert's four star review of Batman Begins also gives me a hell of a lot of hope: **** .
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« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2005, 09:51:33 PM »

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I wanna see this movie a-bad! I'm getting the feeling that this is the movie I wanted ROTS to be. (Good? Finished? Intelligent? Polished? Thematically unified? Something like that.)

Well, it has a more accomplished director behind it (Nolan) who has made 2 pretty good movies...Memento and Insomnia.  I'm not saying Lucas isn't accomplished, it is just that he was there almost 30 years ago now and hasn't regained it back.


Lucas as Director:
Lifetime gross(domestic): $1,655,584,827
Including 4 Star Wars Films, American Graffiti (a goddamn classic), and THX 1138, which helped reinvent modern sci-fi wierdness.

Lucas as Writer: (recognize some of these movies as ones us forum geeks love?)
Star Wars 1-6
Indy Jones and the Last Crusade
Indy Jones and the Temple of Doom
Raiders of the Lost Ark
American Graffiti
THX 1138
Willow.

Hmm..yeah, the man has no pedigree at all.

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« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2005, 12:47:01 AM »

My local movie theatre just upgraded 1 or 2 of it's theatres to IMAX and Batman Begins is the 1st movie they're showing on it.


Now that I've seen that  the early reviews are good I'm going to make some time this weekend to check it out on the IMAX.
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« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2005, 01:53:52 AM »

Best. Superhero. Movie. Ever.
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« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2005, 03:46:03 AM »

I've been thinking about whether Batman Begins is a better movie than Spiderman or X-Men, and the more I do, the more I agree with aussie77.  It's phenomenal.

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« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2005, 03:47:55 AM »

This movie was FANTASTIC.  A second viewing?  Yes...I believe so. smile
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« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2005, 03:50:31 AM »

damn.  I wanna see this.  now.
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« Reply #17 on: June 16, 2005, 03:50:32 AM »

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I've been thinking about whether Batman Begins is a better movie than Spiderman or X-Men, and the more I do, the more I agree with aussie77.  It's phenomenal.


:shock:

So much for going to see this movie with modest expectations like I'd originally planned...
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« Reply #18 on: June 16, 2005, 04:42:44 AM »

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Best. Superhero. Movie. Ever.


Wow, thats a pretty bold statement.  It better be good, you are making me go see it!   :twisted:
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« Reply #19 on: June 16, 2005, 06:27:52 AM »

Stop it, all of you! You're making me weep with anticipation. I'm so envious of all of you normal "I work during the day" people. I won't be able to see the flick until next week, and I hate you all for it.
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« Reply #20 on: June 16, 2005, 07:13:39 AM »

Work?  Whats that?
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« Reply #21 on: June 16, 2005, 02:23:09 PM »

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No kiddin'.  If my lame-ass jobbed friends didn't have to work, I'd have seen this thing already.  But, as is, I've got to wait 'till "the weekend" when they can see it, too.  Losers.
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« Reply #22 on: June 16, 2005, 06:32:48 PM »

Yep, I feel the same way. I think I am going with Kathode and some of his "colleagues" later tonight. Shudder. Game makers scare me. Kathode is only barely tolerable!!

Anyways, I have high hopes. It couldn't be any worse than most superhero movies. Remind me one day to finally make that post about why the Spider Man movies are the most overrated action films in recent memory.
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« Reply #23 on: June 16, 2005, 08:01:16 PM »

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Best. Superhero. Movie. Ever.

Until I actually see Batman Begins, my vote still remains:  Superman II, followed closely by Spiderman.
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« Reply #24 on: June 16, 2005, 08:16:12 PM »

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Remind me one day to finally make that post about why the Spider Man movies are the most overrated action films in recent memory.


The more I watch Spiderman I and II the more I find problems with them. With the dialogue, with the acting, with the pacing, with some of the "bad guys", with any of the in suit (i.e. non CGI) spidey. Still doesn't stop me from getting chills whenever I watch the post-robbery/shooting chase in the first film, or the clocktower/train fight in the second. The spidey action is pure gold.

But go for it, Rage, rant on. I want to hear about it.
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« Reply #25 on: June 16, 2005, 08:58:06 PM »

My biggest problem with the first Spiderman was the extreme Power Rangers feel during the Unity Day scene where Green Goblin and Spiderman faced off for the first time.  Subsequent action scenes were much, much better, but you could practically intercut that scene with parts of Big Bad Beetle Borgs and no one would be able to tell the difference.

I've only seen Spiderman 2 once so I don't have quite the same perspective on that film, but my current feelings are that Batman Begins is still a superior movie.

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« Reply #26 on: June 16, 2005, 09:23:20 PM »

Just got back from seeing Batman Begins.

In a word...



Now I want to go see it at the IMAX showing.
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« Reply #27 on: June 16, 2005, 09:44:01 PM »

I hated the "Unity Day" battle, and also thought it was a missed opportunity to make the Goblin a little cooler - I wish he had flown through one of the balloons, say, a purple one, shredding it in the process, only to have this tattered material cling to his suit in a long, ragged, bad ass "cloak" like fashion.
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« Reply #28 on: June 17, 2005, 02:37:26 AM »

Saw it twice yesterday. My favorite film of all time.
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« Reply #29 on: June 17, 2005, 01:38:04 PM »

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Saw it twice yesterday. My favorite film of all time.


...it's also the only film I've ever seen.  biggrin
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« Reply #30 on: June 17, 2005, 02:49:17 PM »

Maybe it's just me, but the consensus here seems to be that people like very dark movies.  I can't believe people are actually starting to pick apart the Spiderman movies?   :?  

Am I the only one who thinks the "dark-styled" Batman is boring?  I haven't seen the movie yet so take this with a grain of salt.  But, if I have to see Bruce Wayne lamenting over the death of his parents again I'm going to go crazy.  It was overdone in the other Batman movies as well.

I actually like my superhero movies to be on the "campy" side.  To me, that is what superheroes are about.  I happened to like the Batman & Robin movie and I thought Arnold did a great job as Mr. Freeze.  All this dark and "realistic" stuff just bores me.  Yes, I grew up watching the campy Batman television series - but I loved it!!!

And another pet peeve of mine.  Batman is not Batman without Robin!  They go together like peanut butter & jelly!

Just my thoughts.  Don't get all too steamed up on them.  :wink:  More than likely I'll probably love the movie after I see it.  

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« Reply #31 on: June 17, 2005, 09:42:18 PM »

Oh yeah, and I still want to see Batman (aka the point of this thread).
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« Reply #32 on: June 18, 2005, 07:40:27 PM »

Batman Begins is better than the original Superman movie. *runs and hides from Fireball*.
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« Reply #33 on: June 18, 2005, 09:13:46 PM »

Quote
Umm... as an on-topic comment, Batman didn't change much as a result of Crisis.


Perhaps not, but my understanding is that he was rather reforged by Frank Miller into the dark character we see today in Justice League Unlimited, Batman Beyond, and, of course, Batman Begins.

God, did I love Batman Beyond!  Now that was a great show!

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« Reply #34 on: June 18, 2005, 09:27:12 PM »

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Batman Begins is better than the original Superman movie.

Nope.
 
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« Reply #35 on: June 18, 2005, 09:31:43 PM »

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Batman Begins is better than the original Superman movie.

Nope.
 
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No, it really really is.
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« Reply #36 on: June 19, 2005, 03:49:58 AM »

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Batman Begins is better than the original Superman movie.

Nope.
 
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No, it really really is.

I think it is difficult to say this kind of a thing simply because there is almost 30 years difference between the two movies.  If you take it from a base level of the movies around it at the same time Superman was way ahead of its time.  Such special effects had not been seen yet (outside of Star Wars).  Batman Begins, although it is very good, does not necessarily put itself above other comic movies in regards to technology.

I thought Christian Bale was probably the best Batman so far.  Before then I would have said it was Clooney even though he was in the worst of the 4 previous movies.  He had the look of a Bruce Wayne...but Bale certainly has the look of Bruce Wayne and supercedes Clooney.

I like the darkness, although this movie is a heck of a lot brighter than Batman or Batman Returns and Gotham looks a hell of a lot more lively than it did in any of the previous 4 movies (granted, it is Chicago...or at least that is where the Batmobile stuff was done) and doesn't look as "goth" as it has in the past.  It looks more like a sprawling Metropolis.

I like what they did with the bad guys, but I don't want to give too much away.  Any Batman comic book fan knows what I'm thinking though.

This was a very good movie...far better than Star Wars.  Speaking of which, I talked about this earlier, but I was trying to point out that Nolan is a better director (and writer since he co-wrote this) than George Lucas is today and quite possibly even back almost 30 years ago.  Box office amounts don't mean diddly squat when you are talking about creativity and "life" in the acting.  Indy Jones movies were only good because Spielberg was helming them...if Lucas had directed them the acting would suck.  Anyway, enough about that...don't want to derail the thread like it had already been.
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« Reply #37 on: June 19, 2005, 05:46:59 AM »

I'm a huge Batman fan, and I loved it.

Christian Bale is Bruce Wayne and Batman. I was excited when they cast him in the role, and for once my enthusiasm has not gone unrewarded!

Also: Cillian Murphy and Liam Neeson kick ass in their respective roles, and even little miss Katie Holmes is rather unobtrusive and plays her part pretty well.

Michael Caine as Alfred is absolutely awesome, as is Morgan Freeman as Lucius Fox. There are minor changes made to Fox's character, but they all fit in with the story being told, and none of it is annoying or unnecessary.

Gary Oldman is pretty cool as the somewhat younger Jim Gordon as well. And a minor high-five goes to Rutger Hauer for his somewhat unimportant but still well-played role as a Wayne Enterprises suit.

Actually.. I think about 99% of the positives of this movie are all owed to it's excellent casting.

On to other things like.. the new batmobile. Yes, it's something extremely different than what we're used to seeing Batman drive around in, but after seeing the movie I have to say I see why they chose to design it like they did, it fits in the movie, it fits the character, and it's awesome.

I definitely think it's the best Batman movie yet, and I had more fun watching it than I did any of the other comic/superhero movies of the last couple of years. The only exception would be X2, which I still think is an absolutely amazing movie.
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« Reply #38 on: June 19, 2005, 02:57:41 PM »

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Batman Begins is better than the original Superman movie.

Nope.
 
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No, it really really is.

Wrong!
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« Reply #39 on: June 19, 2005, 05:55:31 PM »

I always thought a younger Alec Baldwin would have made an awesome Batman.
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