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« Reply #560 on: April 12, 2011, 04:42:55 PM »

One of the major draws of an ereader, for me, is the ability to carry an entire library of books in a package thats about the size and weight of a single trade paperback.   The savings on used books is nice but I guess Im willing to pay for convenience.  Plus as mentioned the proceeds of used paperbacks do nothing to reward the authors that I like to read.
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« Reply #561 on: April 12, 2011, 04:52:55 PM »

Quote from: iloveplywood on April 12, 2011, 03:55:09 PM

I've stopped going to used book stores as well.  That's a market that's going to get killed by e-readers.  I feel for the used book store owners, but I guess I'd rather put money in the author's hands.  It's not like books are this monumental expense to begin with.

Regarding used book stores, it depends on the books you look for of course. I'm very much into history of all types and there are many, many more books out there that don't have Kindle versions than ones that do.

A month or so ago I was in Jacksonville, FL at the two Chamblin locations. Each one has an incredible number of books, although the Bookmine location is far larger. If you are a bookaholic, either one is worth the trip.

I also belong to a couple of bookswap websites. You get a credit when you send a book to someone, and you can use that credit to get a book. So basically for the cost of media mail postage, you get a book.

I really use my Kindle in conjunction with retroread.com and Google Books to find pre-1923 books of interest. I download the ones that have epub versions (most of the ones I'm interested in do) and convert them to mobi at Retroreads and can send them directly to my Kindle. The conversion is a bit ugly but isn't really a detriment to me.
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« Reply #562 on: April 12, 2011, 04:55:01 PM »

Quote from: rshetts2 on April 12, 2011, 04:42:55 PM

One of the major draws of an ereader, for me, is the ability to carry an entire library of books in a package thats about the size and weight of a single trade paperback.   

Truth be told, I keep a canvas bag with about a dozen books in my car, just in case when away from home I finish reading a book or decide I'm giving up on it.

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« Reply #563 on: April 12, 2011, 06:18:06 PM »

Things not being on Kindle is another reason I haven't touched it in a while.  Been on a James Elroy kick... no Kindle.  Reading 'The Once and Future King' in our book club... no kindle...

I generally read one thing at a time and know what I'm going to read next, so even traveling, it's just a case of bringing an extra book if I think I'm going to finish the one I'm on.

Don't get me wrong, I WANT all of these things to be on my Kindle... I like having easy access to reference, it's a lot easier to read in most situations (lying in bed, sitting at the table at lunch, etc.) It's just hard to justify financially, and hard to find things I'm interested in lately.
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« Reply #564 on: April 20, 2011, 10:21:43 PM »

Not one to be outdone by the Overdrive Media Console, Amazon is getting into lending books via the public libraries by partnering with Overdrive:

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Amazon on Wednesday announced Kindle Library Lending, a program that will let Kindle users borrow books from more than 11,000 libraries in the United States. The program follows Amazon's person-to-person Kindle Book Lending feature that debuted at the end of 2010 and addresses long-running concerns that e-readers like the Kindle would bypass libraries entirely.

In the program, users will be able to check out Kindle books from their local library, and then add notes and highlights which are synced to the user's Kindle account. If the book is re-rented or purchased, all the annotations and highlighted passages are retained. They do not pass from user to user.

Kindle Book Lending will be powered by OverDrive a cross-platform (Mac, Windows, Android, Blackberry, iOS, Windows Mobile) e-book, audiobook, and media lending platform. OverDrive media supplies more than 500,000 pieces of content to libraries, schools and retailers worldwide.
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« Reply #565 on: August 11, 2011, 08:43:07 AM »

introducing the Kindle Cloud Reader: https://read.amazon.com/

it currently only works with Chrome or Safari.
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« Reply #566 on: August 11, 2011, 01:05:22 PM »

Quote from: CeeKay on August 11, 2011, 08:43:07 AM

it currently only works with Chrome or Safari.

It also doesn't work with periodicals, which is the same deficiency as the desktop "Kindle for PC/Mac" programs. Call me when they fix that and I'll start to care.

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« Reply #567 on: August 11, 2011, 02:15:26 PM »

This is really just an end-around Apple's e-commerce requirements for apps, and a pretty clever one at that.
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« Reply #568 on: September 03, 2011, 09:49:05 AM »

report from a gentleman who claims he has had time with the Kindle Tablet.

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So how much will the 7-inch Kindle cost? $250.

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So why will people buy this device instead of a Nook Color? Well, beyond the deep Amazon services integration, there will be two other reasons, I believe. First, Amazon is going to promote the hell out of this thing on Amazon.com. Second, the plan right now is to give buyers a free subscription to Amazon Prime.
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« Reply #569 on: September 03, 2011, 04:37:23 PM »

This sounds like exactly the opposite of everything I would expect -- or want -- from a Kindle.  I like my current Kindle so much because it's *not* a tablet: it's a dedicated e-reader with an unobtrusive display technology that mimics the appearance of real books pretty darn well.

If Amazon wants to develop a tablet to compete with the iPad, the Galaxy, the Eee Pad, and every other tablet on the market, that's fine.  Why they would call a "Kindle" is beyond me.  It's opening a fine dining restaurant called "McDonald's."

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« Reply #570 on: September 03, 2011, 08:52:33 PM »

Quote from: CeeKay on September 03, 2011, 09:49:05 AM

report from a gentleman who claims he has had time with the Kindle Tablet.

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So how much will the 7-inch Kindle cost? $250.

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So why will people buy this device instead of a Nook Color? Well, beyond the deep Amazon services integration, there will be two other reasons, I believe. First, Amazon is going to promote the hell out of this thing on Amazon.com. Second, the plan right now is to give buyers a free subscription to Amazon Prime.

The description of the OS makes me worried.  If Amzon built their own OS on top of an older version of Android, does this mean that there could be compatibility issues with Android apps?
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« Reply #571 on: September 04, 2011, 05:16:16 AM »

Quote from: KC on September 03, 2011, 08:52:33 PM

The description of the OS makes me worried.  If Amzon built their own OS on top of an older version of Android, does this mean that there could be compatibility issues with Android apps?

Not likely. But you may be restricted from reaching the full Android store for example, and instead only see apps that are 'best for' your device. Like how the Nook Color worked before B&N opened it up fully a few months back (or until you rooted it and installed your own OS).
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« Reply #572 on: September 13, 2011, 07:49:55 PM »

A Netflix like eBook service for the tablet?

http://www.pdfdevices.com/amazon-working-on-a-netflix-like-ebook-service-for-kindle-tablet/
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« Reply #573 on: September 13, 2011, 09:23:49 PM »

This is a fascinating idea but how will authors get royalties from a deal like this? Maybe it will work like an advance. They offer x amount of cash to the author for 'streaming' rights to the book. I think it's a cool concept but I can see publishers being very resistant to this.
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« Reply #574 on: September 14, 2011, 12:06:53 AM »

Not terribly interested if their selection is comparable to Netflix's (i.e., mostly books I'm not interested in reading).
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« Reply #575 on: September 15, 2011, 12:13:29 AM »

Quote from: jztemple2 on April 12, 2011, 04:52:55 PM

I really use my Kindle in conjunction with retroread.com and Google Books to find pre-1923 books of interest. I download the ones that have epub versions (most of the ones I'm interested in do) and convert them to mobi at Retroreads and can send them directly to my Kindle. The conversion is a bit ugly but isn't really a detriment to me.

Project Gutenberg already has Kindle-formatted versions of many of their texts - would save you a step.
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« Reply #576 on: September 24, 2011, 05:16:37 PM »

The Kindle Tablet may be publicly announced this week.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/240488/amazon_kindle_tablet_announcement_likely_coming_sept_28.html
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« Reply #577 on: September 27, 2011, 03:04:44 PM »

and it the tablet is called... Kindle Fire?  not ready to ship uintil the second week in November?  but I want my new shiney now.... crybaby
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« Reply #578 on: September 27, 2011, 06:34:24 PM »

Based on the doomed and rejected Playbook hardware?  Ugh, count me out.
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« Reply #579 on: September 27, 2011, 06:51:15 PM »

Quote from: jament on September 27, 2011, 06:34:24 PM

Based on the doomed and rejected Playbook hardware?  Ugh, count me out.

To be fair, the Playbook was rejected primarily due to software, not hardware.
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« Reply #580 on: September 28, 2011, 04:10:15 AM »

Quote from: CeeKay on September 27, 2011, 03:04:44 PM

and it the tablet is called... Kindle Fire?  not ready to ship uintil the second week in November?  but I want my new shiney now.... crybaby

Oh, stuff on the Nook Color 2 in the same link? Count me interested.
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« Reply #581 on: September 28, 2011, 02:09:33 PM »

Live blog of the press conference: http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33198_7-20112398-286/live-now-amazons-nyc-press-event-live-blog/

[edit] so it's now called Kindle Touch?
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« Reply #582 on: September 28, 2011, 02:21:01 PM »

hmmm... if you go to the drop down menu for departments and look at the Kindle category they only have the Kindle DX listed now.


$99 for the Kindle Touch Wi Fi, $149.99 3G version.

$79 regular Kindle- ships today.  is the 'ad' version.

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« Reply #583 on: September 28, 2011, 02:36:11 PM »

and here comes the Kidle Fire.

wireless syncing

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Whispersync will work with movies and TV shows.


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Bookmaarks for movies essentially...watch on your TV, then move to your Fire.

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169 pixels per inch, Gorilla Glass

new web browser called Amazon Silk is being shown. 'predictive pre-loading' based on surfing habits, should come in handy for Hep's Asian Cartoon Porn addiction biggrin


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For instance, if you always go to New York Times home page, then business section, it pre-loads business section before you get there.

$199!


ships November 15th, pre-order starts today.
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« Reply #584 on: September 28, 2011, 03:04:53 PM »

I already have a nook color, ipad 2, kindle 3 ... but the amazon Fire?

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« Reply #585 on: September 28, 2011, 03:05:12 PM »

I'll probably upgrade mine and my wife's Kindle 2's for the new Kindle Touch for Christmas.
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« Reply #586 on: September 28, 2011, 03:06:57 PM »

got my Fire pre-ordered.

Kindle Fire

Kindle Cheapo

K-Touch WiFi

K-Touch 3G

looks like each one of the last 3 have 2 different pricepoints- one with ads and one without.
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« Reply #587 on: September 28, 2011, 03:37:12 PM »

8 GB storage for the Fire?  My 3-yo iPhone has twice that. 
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« Reply #588 on: September 28, 2011, 03:40:51 PM »

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8 GB storage for the Fire?  My 3-yo iPhone has twice that. 


it sounds like they are pushing for more cloud use.
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« Reply #589 on: September 28, 2011, 03:47:45 PM »

And that's fine.  I've started storing all my music purchases to the cloud, but I've still got a large amount that would overfill the 8GB if I wanted to take it all with me.  And I really don't want to get to the point where I'm paying a yearly fee to store it.  Besides, I've still got to clean up a bunch of it before I'm happy with it.

It just seems like we're going backwards in terms of on-board memory.  Would it have killed them to throw an SD card slot in there as well?
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« Reply #590 on: September 28, 2011, 03:50:00 PM »

Preordered a Kindle Touch 3G.  Too bad it doesn't ship until late November.
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« Reply #591 on: September 28, 2011, 03:57:00 PM »

The Fire is only available in the US? I'm not shocked but still disappointed.

The Kindle Touch seems nice but I fail to see any reason to upgrade from my (newly-renamed) Kindle Keyboard. The physical keyboard works fine, the battery life and memory are the same, the screen size is the same, it's still not a colour display and I haven't suddenly developed a need for the 3G. For people who don't have a Kindle at all, I can understand the $99 price point being a major benefit but, for me, why do I want to spend a hundred dollars so I can turn pages with a touchscreen rather than a button?

I'm still unimpressed. If my current Kindle were to break, I'd certainly get a Touch over another Keyboard as a replacement. Short of that, though, upgrading seems pointless. So I think I'm still going to wait until they have a good (probably second-generation) colour e-Ink display before getting a new Kindle.

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« Reply #592 on: September 28, 2011, 03:58:49 PM »

Doesn't look like any of these offer anything that will make me want to consider replacing my Kindle 3 3G. The touch screen would just annoy me (looks like you have to reach further to click the screen than the good old edge buttons) and I'd miss the old keyboard in any of these editions. The tablet defeats the whole purpose of e-books in my opinion, so I'm not even going to consider that one.
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« Reply #593 on: September 28, 2011, 03:59:29 PM »

Quote from: Asharak on September 28, 2011, 03:57:00 PM

The Fire is only available in the US? I'm not shocked but still disappointed.

I bet they're going to stagger the worldwide release.  at these prices I think they're more aiming at getting new customers then getting current owners to upgrade.  get them in and get them buying from Amazon.
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« Reply #594 on: September 28, 2011, 04:05:45 PM »

Anyone know how the Fire holds up to reading in sunlight?  My Kindle 2 finally died at some point in the past year and it's sole purpose of existence was for vacation reading.  I was considering replacing it.
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« Reply #595 on: September 28, 2011, 04:09:15 PM »

Quote from: TiLT on September 28, 2011, 03:58:49 PM

The touch screen would just annoy me (looks like you have to reach further to click the screen than the good old edge buttons)

Kindle 3 is an awesome device and a big step up from the 2, but my one annoyance is that it's so easy to accidentally hit the side buttons when holding it naturally or shifting grip.  That's been my experience anyway.  Also literally every person I know who I've let use it for the first time immediately tries to touch the screen to control it smile  I think touch was the natural way to go, but I agree it's not a necessary upgrade unless you're a techno-whore like me slywink
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« Reply #596 on: September 28, 2011, 04:10:06 PM »

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Anyone know how the Fire holds up to reading in sunlight?  My Kindle 2 finally died at some point in the past year and it's sole purpose of existence was for vacation reading.  I was considering replacing it.

The Engadget blog said the screen is Gorilla glass, which I believe is the same as an ipad.  So my guess is that's it's basically impossible to use in direct sunlight, much like the ipad.
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« Reply #597 on: September 28, 2011, 04:10:25 PM »

Yes, I'm thinking that customer upgrades aren't their primary concern.  Their products are great and don't need frequent upgrades, which is fine as they are happy to make money from book sales.  My Kindle 3 is still AMAZING and I have no desire to upgrade.  But if they can keep gaining new customers, which these will surely help them do, then they are going to keep raking in the money.
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« Reply #598 on: September 28, 2011, 04:16:31 PM »

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Quote from: gellar on September 28, 2011, 04:05:45 PM

Anyone know how the Fire holds up to reading in sunlight?  My Kindle 2 finally died at some point in the past year and it's sole purpose of existence was for vacation reading.  I was considering replacing it.

The Engadget blog said the screen is Gorilla glass, which I believe is the same as an ipad.  So my guess is that's it's basically impossible to use in direct sunlight, much like the ipad.

Yeah that was my fear.  Oh well.  No purchase.
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« Reply #599 on: September 28, 2011, 05:20:42 PM »

Quote from: gellar on September 28, 2011, 04:16:31 PM

Quote from: kathode on September 28, 2011, 04:10:06 PM

Quote from: gellar on September 28, 2011, 04:05:45 PM

Anyone know how the Fire holds up to reading in sunlight?  My Kindle 2 finally died at some point in the past year and it's sole purpose of existence was for vacation reading.  I was considering replacing it.

The Engadget blog said the screen is Gorilla glass, which I believe is the same as an ipad.  So my guess is that's it's basically impossible to use in direct sunlight, much like the ipad.

Yeah that was my fear.  Oh well.  No purchase.

No Kindle Touch either?
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