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« on: October 01, 2008, 02:06:05 PM »

Thank you all very much for recommending Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire series.

I am about half way through A Game of Thrones and I absolutely love it. 

I appreciate the recommendation!

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« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2008, 02:09:44 PM »

I would recommend stopping (for now) after Storm of Swords.  It's an absolutely fantastic book and is a pretty satisfying conclusion to what could be seen as the "first trilogy" of ASOIAF.  Then wait for Martin to make some progress with the rest of the series before continuing on. 
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« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2008, 02:13:25 PM »

Quote from: Kevin Grey on October 01, 2008, 02:09:44 PM

Then wait for Martin to make some progress with the rest of the series before continuing on. 

Or wait for him to pass on and then some ghost writer who is actually interested in spending time writing to take over.

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« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2008, 03:35:33 PM »

If you bring down the curse of Jordan on him, I will hunt you down and scatter your limbs to the four corners of the world.
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« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2008, 03:38:30 PM »

Quote from: Isgrimnur on October 01, 2008, 03:35:33 PM

If you bring down the curse of Jordan on him, I will hunt you down and scatter your limbs to the four corners of the world.

at least it would guarantee an end to the series  icon_wink  seriously though, I'm waiting for the final book to come out before I read more.  I figure I'll have to re-read the whole series anyways by the time it ends in probably 10 years, so I might as well read them then.
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« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2008, 03:45:21 PM »

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« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2008, 03:45:26 PM »

I'm not worried about Martin's health but I do get the sense that he has kind of lost interest in the series.  When you look at his resume prior to starting ASOIAF, it was enormously varied in terms of genre (sci-fi, fantasy, horror), format (short stories and novel), and even media (writing for TV) so it's not surprising to me that Martin may start to chafe at the commitment writing an seven volume fat fantasy series requires.  
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« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2008, 05:22:46 PM »

Quote from: Kevin Grey on October 01, 2008, 03:45:26 PM

I'm not worried about Martin's health but I do get the sense that he has kind of lost interest in the series.  When you look at his resume prior to starting ASOIAF, it was enormously varied in terms of genre (sci-fi, fantasy, horror), format (short stories and novel), and even media (writing for TV) so it's not surprising to me that Martin may start to chafe at the commitment writing an seven volume fat fantasy series requires.  

It's his own fault, in a way.

It was originally supposed to be 6 books, and he decided to bridge the gap between books 3 and 4, took a supposedly almost finished book, split it in two, and got stuck on BOTH parts.  Genius!
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« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2008, 08:34:16 PM »

It's not like he's not working...

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« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2008, 09:00:30 PM »

Yeah, Martin seems far more interested in his side projects, sports, and going to conventions than he is in actually writing and finishing his, arguably, most popular series.
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« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2008, 09:12:52 PM »

Unfortunately, writing isn't like ditch digging.  I'd be more upset with him if it wasn't a quality series that I wanted him to deliver a quality effort. 

That being said, his lack of progress is one of the reasons that I own but have not yet read book 4. 
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« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2008, 09:16:24 PM »

Quote from: Isgrimnur on October 01, 2008, 09:12:52 PM

Unfortunately, writing isn't like ditch digging.  I'd be more upset with him if it wasn't a quality series that I wanted him to deliver a quality effort. 

That being said, his lack of progress is one of the reasons that I own but have not yet read book 4. 

Yeah, but when the lack of progress comes from doing all sorts of other stuff while writing a book that he had a good bit written of before he decided to split original book 4 into books 4 and 5, you start to wonder what's really going on.
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« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2008, 09:19:21 PM »

Quote from: pr0ner on October 01, 2008, 09:00:30 PM

Yeah, Martin seems far more interested in his side projects, sports, and going to conventions than he is in actually writing and finishing his, arguably, most popular series.

If I'd written three amazing and well-loved books in a series (I haven't read book 4 yet so I can't comment on it) and I had several still to write I'd be damn nervous.  If you continue to write amazing books in the series, people will expect it.  If it's even slightly less amazing then people will turn on you with nerd rage.
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« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2008, 09:49:17 PM »

Quote from: warning on October 01, 2008, 09:19:21 PM

Quote from: pr0ner on October 01, 2008, 09:00:30 PM

Yeah, Martin seems far more interested in his side projects, sports, and going to conventions than he is in actually writing and finishing his, arguably, most popular series.

If I'd written three amazing and well-loved books in a series (I haven't read book 4 yet so I can't comment on it) and I had several still to write I'd be damn nervous.  If you continue to write amazing books in the series, people will expect it.  If it's even slightly less amazing then people will turn on you with nerd rage.

It doesn't help that the fourth book widely seems to be perceived as the weakest in the series so far.  I know I would hate being expected to top Storm of Swords. 
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« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2008, 10:03:16 PM »

Quote from: Kevin Grey on October 01, 2008, 09:49:17 PM

Quote from: warning on October 01, 2008, 09:19:21 PM

Quote from: pr0ner on October 01, 2008, 09:00:30 PM

Yeah, Martin seems far more interested in his side projects, sports, and going to conventions than he is in actually writing and finishing his, arguably, most popular series.

If I'd written three amazing and well-loved books in a series (I haven't read book 4 yet so I can't comment on it) and I had several still to write I'd be damn nervous.  If you continue to write amazing books in the series, people will expect it.  If it's even slightly less amazing then people will turn on you with nerd rage.

It doesn't help that the fourth book widely seems to be perceived as the weakest in the series so far.  I know I would hate being expected to top Storm of Swords. 

I haven't read the fourth book yet.  But, maybe Martin made a mistake in going back to write about a time frame he never intended to fully cover, and he's struggling to rectify the mistake?  Perhaps if he had stuck with the 5-year gap, wrote book 4 like he originally intended, things wouldn't have unraveled so spectacularly?
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