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« Reply #560 on: September 27, 2010, 08:00:40 PM »

Quote from: Scoop20906 on September 27, 2010, 03:56:05 PM

Quote from: rshetts2 on September 27, 2010, 03:50:05 PM

interesting that you understand why we can't trust your scans under the circumstances and yet respond with anger and well couched insults whenever it's explained to you.  I am not confused.  I feel that untrustworthy scans do cause confusion.  I think that's pretty straight forward.  It's obvious you have a problem with anyone who doesn't "get it"  or apparently anyone who isn't agreeing with your stance.  Also I can think of several reason why the wolves wouldnt kill you tonite,  honestly why should they?  They'd be better off killing someone else since we can't trust your scans anyway, and let us lynch you tomorrow.  I feel because of all these reasons not lynching you is detrimental to the village.  Still if the village decides to let this thing play out all over again tomorrow, so be it.  We will be no further along and probably in a worse position than we are now, with the same decision to make all over again.  I'll let the rest of you decide whether my points have merit.  If they understand the situation and let you live,  that's fine,  understanding limits any potential damage you can cause if you are in fact a wolf.
Backing off? Why?

since you asked nicely,  Im not backing off.  My vote is still on you, I still feel you are a wolf and are detrimental to us villagers and I explained my reasoning in the above paragraph.  I can see the other points of view and while I still believe you are a wolf I can understand why others want to give you 1 more day.  As I said, if the village decides that way, then thats the way we go.  I can only state my opinions and cast 1 vote.  In fact, I hope you are being truthful and are in fact not a wolf, because that would mean the wolves missed a golden opportunite to snag 2 specials in two days and thats real good for us.  I doubt it but you hey, you never know. 
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« Reply #561 on: September 27, 2010, 10:11:49 PM »

Scoop20906: 3 (theohall, Silky, rshetts2)
Scraper: 4 (ScubaV, Soulchilde, Moliere, newcastle)
Silky: 1 (Lassr)
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« Reply #562 on: September 27, 2010, 10:17:22 PM »

Let's get this over with:

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« Reply #563 on: September 27, 2010, 10:26:28 PM »

ok i seem to be having a brain fart...i thought there were a few occurences of the goth dude in this thread...except i cant find it...thought I saw 2 occurences...i see 1 occurence in the sign up thread...but not here....am i blind or missing something? I thought someone refered to it specifically in this thread saying 'that's my/x senior photo" or something....swore it was in teh game thread.
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« Reply #564 on: September 27, 2010, 10:28:18 PM »

yeah there was somewhere  a really gnarly looking goth guy
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« Reply #565 on: September 27, 2010, 10:40:52 PM »

Quote from: newcastle on September 27, 2010, 10:26:28 PM

ok i seem to be having a brain fart...i thought there were a few occurences of the goth dude in this thread...except i cant find it...thought I saw 2 occurences...i see 1 occurence in the sign up thread...but not here....am i blind or missing something? I thought someone refered to it specifically in this thread saying 'that's my/x senior photo" or something....swore it was in teh game thread.

Actually how it started was that CeeKay said that was my pic, but it was in the planning thread. Then I jokingly said it was my senior pic after Envy accused me of being emo.
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« Reply #566 on: September 27, 2010, 10:41:15 PM »

But yeah you're looking in the wrong place if you think I'm the goth.
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« Reply #567 on: September 27, 2010, 10:50:58 PM »

Quote from: ravenvii on September 27, 2010, 10:11:49 PM

Scoop20906: 3 (theohall, Silky, rshetts2)
Scraper: 4 (ScubaV, Soulchilde, Moliere, newcastle)
Silky: 1 (Lassr)
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Mod you are missing my vote for Scraper

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« Reply #568 on: September 27, 2010, 11:10:29 PM »

Quote from: Scraper on September 27, 2010, 10:41:15 PM

But yeah you're looking in the wrong place if you think I'm the goth.

Once again - the standard - and you would actually tell us if you were the goth?   saywhat
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« Reply #569 on: September 27, 2010, 11:13:53 PM »

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Quote from: Scraper on September 27, 2010, 10:41:15 PM

But yeah you're looking in the wrong place if you think I'm the goth.

Once again - the standard - and you would actually tell us if you were the goth?   saywhat

No but it makes no sense to think that I am the goth for the sole reason that CeeKay posted a fake pic of me before the game even started. That's like saying CeeKay's the villiage idiot in this game becuase he acts like it in all the other GT threads. One has nothing to do with the other.
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« Reply #570 on: September 27, 2010, 11:23:57 PM »

Quote from: Moliere on September 27, 2010, 05:27:37 PM


So here are two possible scenarios:

1) The Hunter protected BP from the wolves on Night 1. That means BP is most likely going to be the target of the wolves on Night 2. If true he should rez envy or today's lynch if we kill another innocent villager. This needs to happen before the Night orders are completed.
2) The Hunter protected Scoop from the wolves on Night 1. That means Scoop is most likely going to be the target of the wolves on Night 2. If true, the Hunter will probably protect BP while BP should consider using his rez on Scoop so that the village will get an extra scan out of the Seer when the Hunter protects him on Night 3.
   
There's also a third:
   
The Hunter protected Scoop last night. The wolves, knowing that you always try to eliminate the Seer, especially this early in the game, targetted Scoop (they wouldn't waste the infection, knowing he'd be dead soon by the villagers hands, if not theirs). That way they could be assured of getting Scoop on the second night, or assured of the village lynching him very soon. The wolves could have then infected Bulletpig, knowing that he would retain his powers. Once he rezzed someone, showing his goodwill to the village, we would probably just think the wolves were ignoring him since his power was spent and he would then be a wolf in Sorcerer's clothes.
 
Have I mentioned that this is all very confusing?
   
Lassr brought up an interesting point. A wolf would want to be vocal, but not too vocal. I'm thinking Scraper has been too vocal for a wolf. Of course, I am terrible at recognizing lycans, so that doesn't bode well for him.
     
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« Reply #571 on: September 27, 2010, 11:24:20 PM »

Quote from: Scraper on September 27, 2010, 11:13:53 PM

Quote from: theohall on September 27, 2010, 11:10:29 PM

Quote from: Scraper on September 27, 2010, 10:41:15 PM

But yeah you're looking in the wrong place if you think I'm the goth.

Once again - the standard - and you would actually tell us if you were the goth?   saywhat

No but it makes no sense to think that I am the goth for the sole reason that CeeKay posted a fake pic of me before the game even started. That's like saying CeeKay's the villiage idiot in this game becuase he acts like it in all the other GT threads. One has nothing to do with the other.

And would be a convenient way to claim you were not in case you actually were. See the issue.  You would have been better off saying nothing.  Now, you are acting like you have to prove you are not something.

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« Reply #572 on: September 27, 2010, 11:28:07 PM »

Quote from: theohall on September 27, 2010, 11:24:20 PM

Quote from: Scraper on September 27, 2010, 11:13:53 PM

Quote from: theohall on September 27, 2010, 11:10:29 PM

Quote from: Scraper on September 27, 2010, 10:41:15 PM

But yeah you're looking in the wrong place if you think I'm the goth.

Once again - the standard - and you would actually tell us if you were the goth?   saywhat

No but it makes no sense to think that I am the goth for the sole reason that CeeKay posted a fake pic of me before the game even started. That's like saying CeeKay's the villiage idiot in this game becuase he acts like it in all the other GT threads. One has nothing to do with the other.

And would be a convenient way to claim you were not in case you actually were. See the issue.  You would have been better off saying nothing.  Now, you are acting like you have to prove you are not something.

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I supposed I could just throw up my hands and call you all confused idiots, like some others players. But I'm trying to get you off thwe wrong path before I have to fully play my hand and then the lycons really will win. You guys are close to completely losing this game. But I'm not gonna go all out and let the bad guys know everything like Scoop and Bulletpig were so willing to do.
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« Reply #573 on: September 27, 2010, 11:28:36 PM »

Also, Lynch Silky
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« Reply #574 on: September 27, 2010, 11:32:23 PM »

Quote from: Qantaga on September 27, 2010, 11:23:57 PM

There's also a third:
   
The Hunter protected Scoop last night. The wolves, knowing that you always try to eliminate the Seer, especially this early in the game, targetted Scoop (they wouldn't waste the infection, knowing he'd be dead soon by the villagers hands, if not theirs). That way they could be assured of getting Scoop on the second night, or assured of the village lynching him very soon. The wolves could have then infected Bulletpig, knowing that he would retain his powers. Once he rezzed someone, showing his goodwill to the village, we would probably just think the wolves were ignoring him since his power was spent and he would then be a wolf in Sorcerer's clothes.
 
Have I mentioned that this is all very confusing?

Actually that is an interesting 3rd scenario. It's similar to the idea that Lassr was infected right after Scoop cleared him as an innocent villager.
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« Reply #575 on: September 27, 2010, 11:37:57 PM »

Considerations

1) Cragmyre
2) Moliere
3) JayDee
4) Qantaga
5) CeeKay
6) envy24 - lynched, villager
7) Isgrimnur
Cool rshetts2
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10) theohall - villager smile
11) Bulletpig - claims Hunter
12) Lassr - villager per claimed Seer scan
13) ScubaV
14) Silky
15) Scoop20906 - claims Seer
16) Soulchilde
17) newcastle
18) Scraper - is hinting at something

With that being the case, I am going to vote for someone completely different and see if they are going to pull the hint at special thing every one else is pulling...

Withdraw Scraper

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« Reply #576 on: September 27, 2010, 11:48:41 PM »

Quote from: theohall on September 27, 2010, 11:37:57 PM

Considerations

1) Cragmyre
2) Moliere
3) JayDee
4) Qantaga
5) CeeKay
6) envy24 - lynched, villager
7) Isgrimnur
8 ) rshetts2
9) rickfc
10) theohall - villager smile
11) Bulletpig - claims Hunter  Sorcerer
12) Lassr - villager per claimed Seer scan
13) ScubaV
14) Silky
15) Scoop20906 - claims Seer
16) Soulchilde
17) newcastle
18) Scraper - is hinting at something

That leaves Scraper as possible Vampire Hunter, Wolf Hunter, or Undertaker. This village sure can pick them. If everyone is telling the truth that means 3 out of our first 4 lynch targets were good Specials. Withdraw Scraper.
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« Reply #577 on: September 27, 2010, 11:53:48 PM »

sorry guys, I've been busy as hell at work today and this evening is looking crazy too.  I'll try and catch up to toss in a vote.
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« Reply #578 on: September 28, 2010, 12:03:22 AM »

I'm gonna go watch Green Bay (hopefully) stomp all over Chi-Town.  Maybe some of you fence-sitters will have participated by then.  If you guys believe Scraper then I'm willing to jump on the Silky train.
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« Reply #579 on: September 28, 2010, 12:16:29 AM »

Sorry guys, work got crazy in the afternoon. I still need to catch up from the weekend. If no lynch has happened by the morning I'll post my thoughts and offer up a vote.
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« Reply #580 on: September 28, 2010, 12:28:39 AM »

Quote from: Qantaga on September 27, 2010, 11:23:57 PM

Lassr brought up an interesting point. A wolf would want to be vocal, but not too vocal. I'm thinking Scraper has been too vocal for a wolf. Of course, I am terrible at recognizing lycans, so that doesn't bode well for him.
     
lynch Silky

This is pretty funny considering we just had 3 people check in saying how they've been too busy to participate. Lynched for talking too much (envy) and talking too little (silky). There are at least 2 or 3 others that fit these categories. If we're to believe Scraper as yet another outed Special then I will go with Isgrimnur.
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« Reply #581 on: September 28, 2010, 01:29:25 AM »

Quote from: rshetts2 on September 27, 2010, 08:00:40 PM

Quote from: Scoop20906 on September 27, 2010, 03:56:05 PM

Quote from: rshetts2 on September 27, 2010, 03:50:05 PM

interesting that you understand why we can't trust your scans under the circumstances and yet respond with anger and well couched insults whenever it's explained to you.  I am not confused.  I feel that untrustworthy scans do cause confusion.  I think that's pretty straight forward.  It's obvious you have a problem with anyone who doesn't "get it"  or apparently anyone who isn't agreeing with your stance.  Also I can think of several reason why the wolves wouldnt kill you tonite,  honestly why should they?  They'd be better off killing someone else since we can't trust your scans anyway, and let us lynch you tomorrow.  I feel because of all these reasons not lynching you is detrimental to the village.  Still if the village decides to let this thing play out all over again tomorrow, so be it.  We will be no further along and probably in a worse position than we are now, with the same decision to make all over again.  I'll let the rest of you decide whether my points have merit.  If they understand the situation and let you live,  that's fine,  understanding limits any potential damage you can cause if you are in fact a wolf.
Backing off? Why?

since you asked nicely,  Im not backing off.  My vote is still on you, I still feel you are a wolf and are detrimental to us villagers and I explained my reasoning in the above paragraph.  I can see the other points of view and while I still believe you are a wolf I can understand why others want to give you 1 more day.  As I said, if the village decides that way, then thats the way we go.  I can only state my opinions and cast 1 vote.  In fact, I hope you are being truthful and are in fact not a wolf, because that would mean the wolves missed a golden opportunite to snag 2 specials in two days and thats real good for us.  I doubt it but you hey, you never know. 

Wow, you are really backing off your earlier posts. Very interesting. You've gone from 100% sure I am a baddie to now hoping I am being truthful. Thats like 180 degree change. I wonder why...
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« Reply #582 on: September 28, 2010, 01:34:55 AM »

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Quote from: theohall on September 27, 2010, 11:24:20 PM

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Quote from: theohall on September 27, 2010, 11:10:29 PM

Quote from: Scraper on September 27, 2010, 10:41:15 PM

But yeah you're looking in the wrong place if you think I'm the goth.

Once again - the standard - and you would actually tell us if you were the goth?   saywhat

No but it makes no sense to think that I am the goth for the sole reason that CeeKay posted a fake pic of me before the game even started. That's like saying CeeKay's the villiage idiot in this game becuase he acts like it in all the other GT threads. One has nothing to do with the other.

And would be a convenient way to claim you were not in case you actually were. See the issue.  You would have been better off saying nothing.  Now, you are acting like you have to prove you are not something.

Withdraw Scoop

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I supposed I could just throw up my hands and call you all confused idiots, like some others players. But I'm trying to get you off thwe wrong path before I have to fully play my hand and then the lycons really will win. You guys are close to completely losing this game. But I'm not gonna go all out and let the bad guys know everything like Scoop and Bulletpig were so willing to do.
Never called anyone an idiot but appreciate your tone.

Also, how exactly did the two of us go all out and let the bad guys know everything? I'd really like an explanation of this scrapper.
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« Reply #583 on: September 28, 2010, 01:38:29 AM »

I'm willing to see what silky is.

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« Reply #584 on: September 28, 2010, 01:42:23 AM »

Quote from: Scoop20906 on September 28, 2010, 01:34:55 AM

Quote from: Scraper on September 27, 2010, 11:28:07 PM

Quote from: theohall on September 27, 2010, 11:24:20 PM

Quote from: Scraper on September 27, 2010, 11:13:53 PM

Quote from: theohall on September 27, 2010, 11:10:29 PM

Quote from: Scraper on September 27, 2010, 10:41:15 PM

But yeah you're looking in the wrong place if you think I'm the goth.

Once again - the standard - and you would actually tell us if you were the goth?   saywhat

No but it makes no sense to think that I am the goth for the sole reason that CeeKay posted a fake pic of me before the game even started. That's like saying CeeKay's the villiage idiot in this game becuase he acts like it in all the other GT threads. One has nothing to do with the other.

And would be a convenient way to claim you were not in case you actually were. See the issue.  You would have been better off saying nothing.  Now, you are acting like you have to prove you are not something.

Withdraw Scoop

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I supposed I could just throw up my hands and call you all confused idiots, like some others players. But I'm trying to get you off thwe wrong path before I have to fully play my hand and then the lycons really will win. You guys are close to completely losing this game. But I'm not gonna go all out and let the bad guys know everything like Scoop and Bulletpig were so willing to do.
Never called anyone an idiot but appreciate your tone.

Also, how exactly did the two of us go all out and let the bad guys know everything? I'd really like an explanation of this scrapper.

Ok, I think I know what you are complaining about. When both bulletpig and myself were n-1 we revealed out roles.

Let me explain why. When you claim to be a special, you basically have just signed your death warrant either by the village not believing you or by the baddies that night. At that point you need to dump everything (all information) to the village.

Lack of information helps the baddie. If I had claimed special and nothing else and I died that night it allows the wolves then to fake my role later on and the village can't counter that.

Do you see why we did this now?
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« Reply #585 on: September 28, 2010, 01:54:56 AM »

Quote from: theohall on September 27, 2010, 11:37:57 PM

Considerations

1) Cragmyre
2) Moliere
3) JayDee
4) Qantaga
5) CeeKay
6) envy24 - lynched, villager
7) Isgrimnur
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9) rickfc
10) theohall - villager smile
11) Bulletpig - claims Hunter
12) Lassr - villager per claimed Seer scan
13) ScubaV
14) Silky
15) Scoop20906 - claims Seer
16) Soulchilde
17) newcastle
18) Scraper - is hinting at something

With that being the case, I am going to vote for someone completely different and see if they are going to pull the hint at special thing every one else is pulling...

Withdraw Scraper

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« Reply #586 on: September 28, 2010, 02:00:55 AM »

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Do you believe scrapper?

How can we know about any of the supposed outed Specials? Should we believe you are the Seer and that you haven't been infected, thereby compromising all your scans? Should we believe that BP hasn't been infected and is the Sorc? There isn't much to go on at this point besides a hunch and a little logic about the wolves' likely motives. The last game was all about innocent villagers committing suicide. This game is full of people about to be lynched claiming to be a Special.
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« Reply #587 on: September 28, 2010, 02:03:36 AM »

Quote from: Scoop20906 on September 28, 2010, 01:42:23 AM

Quote from: Scoop20906 on September 28, 2010, 01:34:55 AM

Quote from: Scraper on September 27, 2010, 11:28:07 PM

Quote from: theohall on September 27, 2010, 11:24:20 PM

Quote from: Scraper on September 27, 2010, 11:13:53 PM

Quote from: theohall on September 27, 2010, 11:10:29 PM

Quote from: Scraper on September 27, 2010, 10:41:15 PM

But yeah you're looking in the wrong place if you think I'm the goth.

Once again - the standard - and you would actually tell us if you were the goth?   saywhat

No but it makes no sense to think that I am the goth for the sole reason that CeeKay posted a fake pic of me before the game even started. That's like saying CeeKay's the villiage idiot in this game becuase he acts like it in all the other GT threads. One has nothing to do with the other.

And would be a convenient way to claim you were not in case you actually were. See the issue.  You would have been better off saying nothing.  Now, you are acting like you have to prove you are not something.

Withdraw Scoop

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I supposed I could just throw up my hands and call you all confused idiots, like some others players. But I'm trying to get you off thwe wrong path before I have to fully play my hand and then the lycons really will win. You guys are close to completely losing this game. But I'm not gonna go all out and let the bad guys know everything like Scoop and Bulletpig were so willing to do.
Never called anyone an idiot but appreciate your tone.

Also, how exactly did the two of us go all out and let the bad guys know everything? I'd really like an explanation of this scrapper.

Ok, I think I know what you are complaining about. When both bulletpig and myself were n-1 we revealed out roles.

Let me explain why. When you claim to be a special, you basically have just signed your death warrant either by the village not believing you or by the baddies that night. At that point you need to dump everything (all information) to the village.

Lack of information helps the baddie. If I had claimed special and nothing else and I died that night it allows the wolves then to fake my role later on and the village can't counter that.

Do you see why we did this now?

I would much rather go up against a perceived known enemy than an unknown any day of the week. Thus the reason for a bit of guess work, rather than just giving them everything.
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« Reply #588 on: September 28, 2010, 02:16:37 AM »

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interesting that you understand why we can't trust your scans under the circumstances and yet respond with anger and well couched insults whenever it's explained to you.  I am not confused.  I feel that untrustworthy scans do cause confusion.  I think that's pretty straight forward.  It's obvious you have a problem with anyone who doesn't "get it"  or apparently anyone who isn't agreeing with your stance.  Also I can think of several reason why the wolves wouldnt kill you tonite,  honestly why should they?  They'd be better off killing someone else since we can't trust your scans anyway, and let us lynch you tomorrow.  I feel because of all these reasons not lynching you is detrimental to the village.  Still if the village decides to let this thing play out all over again tomorrow, so be it.  We will be no further along and probably in a worse position than we are now, with the same decision to make all over again.  I'll let the rest of you decide whether my points have merit.  If they understand the situation and let you live,  that's fine,  understanding limits any potential damage you can cause if you are in fact a wolf.
Backing off? Why?

since you asked nicely,  Im not backing off.  My vote is still on you, I still feel you are a wolf and are detrimental to us villagers and I explained my reasoning in the above paragraph.  I can see the other points of view and while I still believe you are a wolf I can understand why others want to give you 1 more day.  As I said, if the village decides that way, then thats the way we go.  I can only state my opinions and cast 1 vote.  In fact, I hope you are being truthful and are in fact not a wolf, because that would mean the wolves missed a golden opportunite to snag 2 specials in two days and thats real good for us.  I doubt it but you hey, you never know. 

Wow, you are really backing off your earlier posts. Very interesting. You've gone from 100% sure I am a baddie to now hoping I am being truthful. Thats like 180 degree change. I wonder why...

You know if you keep putting words in my mouth maybe youll actually get me to say what you want. Theres no 180 turn I think youre a wolf in hiding.  Ive never backed down on that belief.  My hope is that the wolves screwed up and missed the chance to take out 2 specials right out the gate.  As I said, I doubt thats the case.  Youre very good at twisting peoples words around Scoop, I hope the rest of the villagers are paying attention.
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« Reply #589 on: September 28, 2010, 03:01:51 AM »

Quote from: rshetts2 on September 28, 2010, 02:16:37 AM

Quote from: Scoop20906 on September 28, 2010, 01:29:25 AM

Quote from: rshetts2 on September 27, 2010, 08:00:40 PM

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Quote from: rshetts2 on September 27, 2010, 03:50:05 PM

interesting that you understand why we can't trust your scans under the circumstances and yet respond with anger and well couched insults whenever it's explained to you.  I am not confused.  I feel that untrustworthy scans do cause confusion.  I think that's pretty straight forward.  It's obvious you have a problem with anyone who doesn't "get it"  or apparently anyone who isn't agreeing with your stance.  Also I can think of several reason why the wolves wouldnt kill you tonite,  honestly why should they?  They'd be better off killing someone else since we can't trust your scans anyway, and let us lynch you tomorrow.  I feel because of all these reasons not lynching you is detrimental to the village.  Still if the village decides to let this thing play out all over again tomorrow, so be it.  We will be no further along and probably in a worse position than we are now, with the same decision to make all over again.  I'll let the rest of you decide whether my points have merit.  If they understand the situation and let you live,  that's fine,  understanding limits any potential damage you can cause if you are in fact a wolf.
Backing off? Why?

since you asked nicely,  Im not backing off.  My vote is still on you, I still feel you are a wolf and are detrimental to us villagers and I explained my reasoning in the above paragraph.  I can see the other points of view and while I still believe you are a wolf I can understand why others want to give you 1 more day.  As I said, if the village decides that way, then thats the way we go.  I can only state my opinions and cast 1 vote.  In fact, I hope you are being truthful and are in fact not a wolf, because that would mean the wolves missed a golden opportunite to snag 2 specials in two days and thats real good for us.  I doubt it but you hey, you never know. 

Wow, you are really backing off your earlier posts. Very interesting. You've gone from 100% sure I am a baddie to now hoping I am being truthful. Thats like 180 degree change. I wonder why...

You know if you keep putting words in my mouth maybe youll actually get me to say what you want. Theres no 180 turn I think youre a wolf in hiding.  Ive never backed down on that belief.  My hope is that the wolves screwed up and missed the chance to take out 2 specials right out the gate.  As I said, I doubt thats the case.  Youre very good at twisting peoples words around Scoop, I hope the rest of the villagers are paying attention.

I hope everyone is paying attention too. Its all I've asked since the beginning of the game.

It's pretty plain that you are backing off your original position to lynch me and damn the details and you have given your reason. I'd vote for you today but you are being way too vocal right now for you to being flying under anyone's radar. No one is going to miss anything you've said, you've seen to that.

You might be a villager but you've made a good case for why you should be at least scanned if not lynched real soon.
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« Reply #590 on: September 28, 2010, 03:24:30 AM »

I don't believe Scraper.  I don't believe Scoop.  And I agree with rshetts2 that Scoop is trying to make it look as if rshetts2 has said thing he has not.  Why would the Seer, who is being ever so helpful, do this?

I thought Scoop was lying and just trying to stay alive.  AFAIK, rshetts2 thinks the same, based on what I have read.

Heck, I don't believe Bulletpig either.  What are the odds of being the Hunter in back-to-back games?
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« Reply #591 on: September 28, 2010, 03:27:21 AM »

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What are the odds of being the Hunter in back-to-back games?

You didn't see me fix your matrix? I think his claim is that of being the Sorcerer, not the Hunter.

I certainly share your misgivings though I don't know how to proceed. As of yet no one has contradicted those claiming to be Specials. And no one has had to prove themselves yet.
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« Reply #592 on: September 28, 2010, 03:29:53 AM »

Quote from: theohall on September 27, 2010, 11:37:57 PM

With that being the case, I am going to vote for someone completely different and see if they are going to pull the hint at special thing every one else is pulling...

Lynch Isgrimnur[/b]

Sorry to disappoint you.  Nothing special about me this game.
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« Reply #593 on: September 28, 2010, 03:31:25 AM »

Quote from: Moliere on September 28, 2010, 03:27:21 AM

Quote from: theohall on September 28, 2010, 03:24:30 AM

What are the odds of being the Hunter in back-to-back games?

You didn't see me fix your matrix? I think his claim is that of being the Sorcerer, not the Hunter.

I certainly share your misgivings though I don't know how to proceed. As of yet no one has contradicted those claiming to be Specials. And no one has had to prove themselves yet.

Whatever.... A special in b2b games is not that common, especially with this large a group.
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« Reply #594 on: September 28, 2010, 03:32:22 AM »

Quote from: Isgrimnur on September 28, 2010, 03:29:53 AM

Quote from: theohall on September 27, 2010, 11:37:57 PM

With that being the case, I am going to vote for someone completely different and see if they are going to pull the hint at special thing every one else is pulling...

Lynch Isgrimnur[/b]

Sorry to disappoint you.  Nothing special about me this game.

You are just a random target which hopefully gets us somewhere.
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« Reply #595 on: September 28, 2010, 03:43:59 AM »

Front line infantry, got it.  smile
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« Reply #596 on: September 28, 2010, 04:07:10 AM »

Quote from: Moliere on September 28, 2010, 03:27:21 AM

Quote from: theohall on September 28, 2010, 03:24:30 AM

What are the odds of being the Hunter in back-to-back games?

You didn't see me fix your matrix? I think his claim is that of being the Sorcerer, not the Hunter.

I certainly share your misgivings though I don't know how to proceed. As of yet no one has contradicted those claiming to be Specials. And no one has had to prove themselves yet.

if Bulletpig is lying then I think it would be good for the real sorcerer to announce the resurrection of envy24 then do it. It would prove Bulletpig is lying. We would have a wolf/vamp and the sorcerer would not longer be needed. What better way to use the sorcerer than have him resurrect and nab a wolf.
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« Reply #597 on: September 28, 2010, 09:44:45 AM »

Did I miss something?  Scraper is claiming special? 
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« Reply #598 on: September 28, 2010, 10:08:14 AM »

Quote from: Lassr on September 28, 2010, 04:07:10 AM

Quote from: Moliere on September 28, 2010, 03:27:21 AM

Quote from: theohall on September 28, 2010, 03:24:30 AM

What are the odds of being the Hunter in back-to-back games?

You didn't see me fix your matrix? I think his claim is that of being the Sorcerer, not the Hunter.

I certainly share your misgivings though I don't know how to proceed. As of yet no one has contradicted those claiming to be Specials. And no one has had to prove themselves yet.

if Bulletpig is lying then I think it would be good for the real sorcerer to announce the resurrection of envy24 then do it. It would prove Bulletpig is lying. We would have a wolf/vamp and the sorcerer would not longer be needed. What better way to use the sorcerer than have him resurrect and nab a wolf.

On the other hand, if Bulletpig is the sorcerer and announces rezzing Envy and then does so, that not only proves his claim, but it gives us valuable information.  If the wolves had both the sorcerer and the seer as targets, I would think they would kill the sorcerer and convert the seer.  That seems like the logical play.  If Bullet survived as the sorcerer, then he was probably protected. That means hes unprotected tonite and a guaranteed kill.  Theres no reason, if thats the case for Bullet to not rez Envy, he needs to use it or lose it.  If Bullet was protected, then the seer was not.  How is it possible that an unprotected seer both survived the night and went unconverted?  I cant believe that the wolves would have this knowledge and just leave him alone.  Bulletpig holds the key to this conundrum and what he chooses to do would help answer alot of questions.  Either way, if Bullet is lying or telling the truth a sorcerer rez and reveal would help clear up alot
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« Reply #599 on: September 28, 2010, 11:52:36 AM »

Quote from: theohall on September 28, 2010, 03:31:25 AM

Quote from: Moliere on September 28, 2010, 03:27:21 AM

Quote from: theohall on September 28, 2010, 03:24:30 AM

What are the odds of being the Hunter in back-to-back games?

You didn't see me fix your matrix? I think his claim is that of being the Sorcerer, not the Hunter.

I certainly share your misgivings though I don't know how to proceed. As of yet no one has contradicted those claiming to be Specials. And no one has had to prove themselves yet.
Theohall, if you want your posts to be given consideration then please check your facts first instead of responding "whatever". I want your assistance but all you are is a noisy distraction.

Whatever.... A special in b2b games is not that common, especially with this large a group.
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