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« on: February 15, 2013, 07:05:18 PM »

Only episode 1 and it looks like this season is filled with promise for mayhem and excitement.  Of course it could always turn into a dud but with this band of crazies it's hard to imagine it not being fun.

Fans - does anyone really care about these people?  Hopefully there will be some standouts eventually, but at first glance all that interests me is the eye candy.  Of course it's a little annoying when the eye candy (Eddie I'm looking at you) actually acknowledges they are eye candy, but whatever.  The scene where the 4 of the "cool kids" are bathing in the water is like softcore porn, but I don't see how they think that was a good idea after they all talked about how they didn't want to attract too much attention.  Oh well.  The volatile marine guy could be interesting, I would love to see him make it to a merge with Philip.  But unfortunately it looks like he's the type that will be eliminated quickly.

Faves - OK now the fun stuff.  When I first saw the list I thought it was more a list of idiots and freaks rather than favorites, but after a few minutes with them I realized how much I enjoyed almost all of them.  Cochran never ceases to amuse me with his goofball comments and his classic red sweater vest, and you almost expect to see Dawn with him.  I loved Brenda in her season, and she looks even better now.  Erik still seems like a doofus but he should be a good tool.  Malcolm seems like he gained some weight in between seasons, and I was shocked he lost the tossing challenge.  WTF that's HIS challenge!  After just watching him last season, it's like seeing an old friend.   Crazy Brandon is always good for some laughs, and then of course we get to everyone's real favorite, the new and improved Boston Phillip.  As long as he's on the show, he pretty much owns it lol.  I was really afraid they'd knock him out early, which seemed like the sensical thing for everyone to do.  I almost felt like the producers made the reverse happen after Francesqua announced she would eat a rock if she got voted out.  How dumb is it to say something like that on Survivor, ugh!!!  She seems like she could be a really good player if she just kept her big mouth shut, and it was so cool to see her dominate in the first challenge.  She looked like some giant amazon standing next to Cochran, it was so awesome.  Sad to see her go but oh well.

Hopefully the Faves don't get the Malcolm curse and can pull out some wins so they can make it to the merge.  I don't think the new group of fans has much to sustain my interest on their own besides Eddie in his tight red underwear sticking his hot ass into the camera every couple minutes.

Anyone else watching?
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« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2013, 11:00:40 AM »

I am watching also. Never miss Survivor, but it does always take me awhile to get into it. As you said, the Faves are more like the misfits, but I would rather not have seen most of them again. Especially Russell's kid, he's not even a good villain, just an idiot. I would rather see the new guys kick their butts although they aren't a very exciting bunch either.
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« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2013, 01:36:01 PM »

It cracked me up that "Franchesqu" a made the exact same mistakes she made last time and got voted out 1st by the exact same person. Some people never learn.
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« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2013, 10:38:45 PM »

Quote from: Scraper on February 16, 2013, 01:36:01 PM

It cracked me up that "Franchesqu" a made the exact same mistakes she made last time and got voted out 1st by the exact same person. Some people never learn.

Why did she make that inane comment about eating the rock if she got voted out?  As soon as she said that she was done lol.
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« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2013, 06:44:45 PM »

Phillip is really entertaining to watch.  I can't tell if he's insane, or just really clever.  Either way, he's funny to watch.  There should be a rule against male contestants wearing tighty whities, or in Phillips case, tighty pinks.  There's just no reason to subject the audience to this. 

Fran deserved to be voted out.  She should have played the wallflower, not stir things up with Phillip.  After 2 attempts, she doesn't seem to get the game.

I've always wondered why more contestants don't get sunburned.  The medical staff must hand out or administer sunscreen behind the scenes.  I would burn like Cochran without using sunscreen.     

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« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2013, 11:28:01 PM »

Sigh.  I was hoping for some big bang this episode but instead it's just more of The Philip Show.  Corinne was kind of annoying but I liked that she was standing up to Philip and moving against him in a seemingly well planned manner.  But then of course she goes and blurts out her entire plan for no good reason, to Dawn of all people?  Miss wishy washy flip flop, really?  Seemed like something was edited poorly but maybe not.  Then you've got Clueless Eric and Fake Boobs who are just fodder/pawns, it's just all very bizarre.  Now Philip has just further solidified his power over the game, I don't get it.   He's NOT Boston Rob but somehow they've found a way to cast him in the role.  It's almost like the producers are controlling it.
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« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2013, 03:18:29 AM »

Aw. I actually liked that episode quite a bit. Had Cochrin winning an immunity challenge. Had some big strategic moves going in. And had a nice blindside.

Losing Corrine also doesn't impact Malcoms plan at all to take control as he has a hidden immunity idol and that other guy in his alliance does too. I think Philip will be falling pretty soon and it will be pretty sweet to see him go.
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« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2013, 06:15:32 PM »

I love watching the show but some of the people just drive me nuts, it's like they never know when to just shut up.  What's the point of having a covert plan when you tell pretty much everyone?  Especially if you have essentially two idols to mess around with.  All Malcolm had to do was keep his mouth shut and figure out where the favorites were going to direct their votes, and then just play the idol(s) appropriately.  Now all he's done is expose himself and screw up his chances.  And the whole thing when they were trying to "bro up" with Cochran was hysterical.  Ugh.  I am really getting bored of Phillip's shtick.  It was amusing when Rob was around to use him as fodder, now it's just kind of pathetic.
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« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2013, 07:03:12 PM »

Yeah Malcolm really bungled that whole thing. I also don't understand why he voted for Reynold.

It looked like Malcolm had a good thing going with the two HIIs available for play. But now he's squarely on the bottom. He still has his HII, which I think he'll be smart enough to know when to use it for himself, but once its gone he's just a balancing challenge away from going home.

I do love how it all played out though. Andreas paranoid about her being the target is what really saved them. I had no clue she had so much sway in the way people vote until this episode.

Really not sure who I want to win this one though. I guess Cochrain at this point. He has done a great job keeping focus on the votes that keep his group on top and keeping Philip's insanity in check. Dawn is another ok choice as she's actually playing the game and pretty well, but she annoys me. I would be happy with Malcolm winning until I saw this episode in how he bungled everything. I haven't warmed up to any of the other players and most of them seem undeserving to win.
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« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2013, 03:31:53 PM »

I don't get Malcom's vote at all. Unless he really did want Reynold out and talked him into giving up his idle. But there was no indication of that other than his vote. Weird.
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« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2013, 04:58:22 PM »

Malcom's vote makes no sense - unless he's going to go back to the Favorites clan and tell them he was just pretending to cozy up to the fans to flush Reynold's idol out.  He did get that accomplished - and he also cemented the idea that he (Malcolm) does NOT have an idol of his own, or he never would have taken Reynold's idol like that.  Crazy.
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« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2013, 12:00:09 AM »

(Spoiler Alert in case you didn't see who won and still care!)

Interesting wrap up to the season with enough surprises and blindsides to keep me satisfied.  All things considered it was a pretty good/fun season with a deserving winner (taking 4 challenges including the most important 2 at the end, never voted against once and winning all the final votes - pretty dominating when it comes to Survivor terms).  I was really hoping doofus Eddie could win a freaking challenge to get himself into the final 3 to make it interesting, but alas being super hot is about all he's got going for him.  An Eddie Dawn Sheri final would have been very interesting.  Given how bitter Brenda was, she prob would have voted for Eddie, giving him at least 4 votes (2 Amigos + Andrea).  Cochran, Phillip, Eric would probably go to Dawn, leaving Michael, who could potentially be an Eddie vote.  Oh well, certainly it wouldn't have been the complete landslide.     

The oddest thing I thought was the amount of hate Dawn suffered for last week's blindside of Brenda.  That was Cochran's idea, Cochran's move, and Cochran's timing to bring it up while at the reward that Brenda sacrificed for to give him.  Dawn didn't even get that reward!  I get that Brenda held her responsible because she was closer relationship-wise but odd that all the fans seemed to do the same and were so bitter/adamant about it.
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« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2013, 02:59:09 PM »

Quote from: rittchard on May 15, 2013, 12:00:09 AM

The oddest thing I thought was the amount of hate Dawn suffered for last week's blindside of Brenda.  That was Cochran's idea, Cochran's move, and Cochran's timing to bring it up while at the reward that Brenda sacrificed for to give him.  Dawn didn't even get that reward!  I get that Brenda held her responsible because she was closer relationship-wise but odd that all the fans seemed to do the same and were so bitter/adamant about it.

It wasn't just Brenda. A lot of folks got betrayed by Dawn. If you watched the on line Ponderosa video, it was pretty clear that Dawn was not getting any jury votes no matter who she came up against.

Corinne had the numbers for a turnover and went to Dawn to include her in the "new majority". Dawn played along, ran right back to her alliance and Corinne was gone.
Malcolm had the numbers for a turnover and went to to include her in the "new majority". Dawn played along, ran right back to her alliance and Malcolm was gone.
Inside of both of those alliances were Eddie and Reynolds.

So Dawn started the jury with the three amigos AND Brenda set against her. Then you take into account the daily meltdowns and Dawn had a lot of room to make up with the jury.

What hurt Dawn was that folks saw her as a trustworthy mothering type and she was consciously playing an untrustworthy game. It did not sit well with anybody. The funny thing was that neither Sherri or Eddie perceived any of the resentment to Dawn.
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« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2013, 05:31:08 PM »

I totally understood the jury's feelings toward Dawn, I was more wondering about fans who were sending her death threats, etc. 
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« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2013, 06:28:41 PM »

Quote from: rittchard on May 15, 2013, 05:31:08 PM

I totally understood the jury's feelings toward Dawn, I was more wondering about fans who were sending her death threats, etc.  

My apologies for misunderstanding.

Yeah. Fans can be nuts.
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« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2013, 07:08:44 PM »

Yeah that was a pretty good season overall. I even liked a bunch of the early stuff with the Phillip nuttiness and Brandon being such a loose cannon. I was also satisfied with the ending as I think Cochran played a great game compared to those that were left after Malcolm went home.

The Reunion Show was kinda a stinker though. I do miss hearing from the early contestants. I would have liked to hear from Shamar about how he behaved and performed. Or about some of the early contestant strategy plans. And its always fun to hear from the first contestant voted out. They also didn't need to spend time with that little girl who had a crush on Malcolm or Rudy who apparently wants to make it clear he doesn't hang out with "queers". And although I do like seeing Boston Rob having him there to pimp his book was not a good reason - but the short critique about Phillip was fun.

Not sure about the Blood vs Water thing. I'm suspecting its going to be a families thing.
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« Reply #16 on: May 15, 2013, 08:02:22 PM »

I was disappointed the reunion show never addressed Shamar's drama, or Brandon's "I am the author of my demise" meltdown. I couldn't even tell if Brandon was there (the non-jury cast members were in the front of the regular audience), although it would be understandable if the producers did not invite him to the reunion.

The Blood vs Water season coming this fall is supposed to be past contestants returning to play against family/loved ones. I pray they do not invite Dawn or the Hantz men back for that. I wonder if they are considering bringing back Boston Rob vs Amber for another go at it.
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« Reply #17 on: May 15, 2013, 11:52:01 PM »

I always liked seeing the non-jury members in the reunion show. Most of the time it's "who is that guy?" or "oh yeah, I forgot about her", they seldom have much to add, but I still like seeing them. Kind of disappointed they cut them. The reunion show is commercial heavy fluff usually though anyway.
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« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2013, 12:37:32 AM »

Just in case anybody has been under a rock. Brandon Hantz was pretty much the reason they axed the non-jury members showing up for the reunion. Maybe it would have been tried anyway, but they couldn't give that young man any more screen time. He needs real help, not publicity.

I missed the non-jury members less than I thought I was going to.
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« Reply #19 on: May 16, 2013, 12:43:21 AM »

Quote from: dfs on May 16, 2013, 12:37:32 AM

Just in case anybody has been under a rock. Brandon Hantz was pretty much the reason they axed the non-jury members showing up for the reunion. Maybe it would have been tried anyway, but they couldn't give that young man any more screen time. He needs real help, not publicity.

I missed the non-jury members less than I thought I was going to.

Yep they nixed it because of Brandon. Did anyone else catch that they didn't give Eric 1 second of talk time in the reunion. He didn't even get to explain his "injury". Weird for a guy that made it to the final 5.
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« Reply #20 on: May 16, 2013, 02:10:22 PM »

Quote from: Scraper on May 16, 2013, 12:43:21 AM

Quote from: dfs on May 16, 2013, 12:37:32 AM

Just in case anybody has been under a rock. Brandon Hantz was pretty much the reason they axed the non-jury members showing up for the reunion. Maybe it would have been tried anyway, but they couldn't give that young man any more screen time. He needs real help, not publicity.

I missed the non-jury members less than I thought I was going to.

Yep they nixed it because of Brandon. Did anyone else catch that they didn't give Eric 1 second of talk time in the reunion. He didn't even get to explain his "injury". Weird for a guy that made it to the final 5.

When that episode with Eric gasping for life aired I had a funny feeling about it all. He seemed to be acting to me. As you all know Eric really has some self-esteem issues, always looking to be liked by everyone, and also seeking attention.
I believe once the med staff did a thorough examination they realized the scam.
That's why he sat on the back benches with a gag order on him. What else could it be?
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« Reply #21 on: May 16, 2013, 02:16:56 PM »

Quote from: Arclight on May 16, 2013, 02:10:22 PM

Quote from: Scraper on May 16, 2013, 12:43:21 AM

Quote from: dfs on May 16, 2013, 12:37:32 AM

Just in case anybody has been under a rock. Brandon Hantz was pretty much the reason they axed the non-jury members showing up for the reunion. Maybe it would have been tried anyway, but they couldn't give that young man any more screen time. He needs real help, not publicity.

I missed the non-jury members less than I thought I was going to.

Yep they nixed it because of Brandon. Did anyone else catch that they didn't give Eric 1 second of talk time in the reunion. He didn't even get to explain his "injury". Weird for a guy that made it to the final 5.

When that episode with Eric gasping for life aired I had a funny feeling about it all. He seemed to be acting to me. As you all know Eric really has some self-esteem issues, always looking to be liked by everyone, and also seeking attention.
I believe once the med staff did a thorough examination they realized the scam.
That's why he sat on the back benches with a gag order on him. What else could it be?

Allegedly he had a cut on his leg that got infected early on in the game, it never healed properly and when combined with the lack of nutrition the infection got the better of him. At least that's what he said in an interview. He also said he was so out of it during that tribal that he didn't even know who got voted out.
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