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« on: November 15, 2004, 08:04:01 PM »

GM/Genius Tom Donahoe brought his travelling band of clowns to Foxoboro last night and got embarrassed again.

Drew, Willis and the boys look great at home against the Cards and Dolphins but things are different when you aren't playing high school teams at home.

Lets re-cap some fun stats from last night:
Bledsoe was 8-19 for 76 yards with 0 TDs and 3 INTs (one to Troy Brown) and an AMAZING 14.3 QB rating!

McGahee carried 14 times for 37 yards

I know, I know - There are lots of reasons for Drew performing poorly and none if it is his fault. Losman looked good too!! :lol:

At least Bills fans can look forward to a high pick in the first round...no, wait...Donahoe traded that away too!

Bwahahahahahahahaaa!!!!  :lol:

There you go, pr0ner, I hate the Bills!!  :wink:
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« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2004, 08:16:44 PM »

I tell you what, I think the Patriots have shown us why they have won the last couple of Super Bowls.  They looked awesome last night.  In my opinion, it wasn't all how bad the Bills played either, I think that the Patriots were gaming last night and seem to be doing that all season long.  

The Bills are still a decent team though.  At least in my opinion they are.  Hey at least there not the Saints.  And at least Bills fans are not Saints fans like I am.  smile  I have learned to embrace loss and the idea of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.  smile
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« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2004, 09:12:38 PM »

I don't think RM9 hangs around on this forum too much.
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« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2004, 09:20:10 PM »

Never underestimate the stoutness of the Patriot's D at home in cold weather. They can/will make most teams look awful.
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« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2004, 09:27:36 PM »

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I don't think RM9 hangs around on this forum too much.


Yeah - It's too bad. I thought about posting it in "The Angry Forum" but figured we have more fun with it over here.

This forum is only missing good sports talk.  :cry:

We should change that!
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« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2004, 04:07:19 PM »

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I don't think RM9 hangs around on this forum too much.


But alas, I do.  I just don't post much.

I turned the TV off when I discovered that Drew Bledsoe really does believe that he still plays for the Patriots.  I'm surprised he didn't give Troy Brown a high-five when he threw him the ball.  How does a WR cover Eric Moulds and get an interception?  Awful.

Oddly enough, when playing Madden NFL on my X-Box, I did a fantasy draft and noticed that the team that drafted Troy Brown, also put him in as the dime DB.  Predictably, every time I saw this, I threw a TD to the WR that Brown was coveringl

Maybe Bledsoe needs to play more Madden NFL on his X-Box to figure these things out.

Awful.

The angry forum?
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« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2004, 04:15:59 PM »

WoooHooo!!! RM9 speaks!!

Can't argue with you too much on that post, though.  :wink:

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Just seems to me that everyone over there is ultra-combative. It's like the R&P attitude has spilled into everywhere.
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« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2004, 05:01:39 PM »

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Just seems to me that everyone over there is ultra-combative. It's like the R&P attitude has spilled into everywhere.


Nah, just the sports threads where people are trying to argue that Big Ben is the League MVP.  smile

Maybe Drew Bledsoe is still just trying to show his appreciation to the Pats for signing him to a $10000000B contract?

He's awful and I hate him.
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« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2004, 05:15:46 PM »

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He's awful and I hate him.


We agree on that too!!

In a strange twist - I think Manning SHOULD be the MVP.

The tough time I'm having is the people who say that Ben should be the MVP while they would have never thought of Brady. Benny's got 3 years and 2 Super Bowls before he's Brady, never mind MVP. Not to say he's bad or anything but he's got a bit to work with and has won zero playoff games.

I know you don't like Brady, but you've got to admit he's better than Ben at this point.
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« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2004, 07:17:36 PM »

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I turned the TV off when I discovered that Drew Bledsoe really does believe that he still plays for the Patriots. I'm surprised he didn't give Troy Brown a high-five when he threw him the ball. How does a WR cover Eric Moulds and get an interception? Awful.

I actually felt bad for Drew at that point.  Troy Brown hasn't done a bad job playing at DB though.  Still, you didn't want to be the QB that threw the pick to a WR like that.  Brown should have had a pick vs Bulger the week before.

Has anyone figured out who Losman was throwing to for his pick, besides the Pats backup LB?  

Patriots look good, woke up after the beating at Pittsburgh.  Dillon is a stud, a great offseason pickup by the Patriots.

Bledsoe era done?  At this point, how far can Losman be in the learning the system, even with the missed time?  The Bills are out of the playoff hunt, time to start the future.
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« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2004, 07:21:33 PM »

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Nah, just the sports threads where people are trying to argue that Big Ben is the League MVP.

Crazy talk.  Ben isn't the key player on that team yet, and hasn't won any of the games.  For all the Brady bashing, there are times when he steps up and becomes more then a Phil Sims type player, and wins games.  Brady had a great last Super Bowl, beaten Manning a couple times in high scoring games, etc.  

Manning's numbers are silly at this point though.  Indy needs to stop playing like a high school team and running up the score smile.  How can someone not vote for Manning at MVP?  I still don't see why McNair split it with him last year even.  At this pace, Manning will need to be disqualified from MVP consideration in the future to give other players chances.
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« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2004, 09:01:41 PM »

Since Scott brought him up:

At what point does McNair go from Warrior to Fragile?

I'm not saying he's not tough or anything and I know he takes a beating but he's been Chris Chandler-like in the past few years. At some point being injury-prone has to turn into a negative.
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« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2004, 09:16:24 PM »

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Bledsoe era done?  At this point, how far can Losman be in the learning the system, even with the missed time?  The Bills are out of the playoff hunt, time to start the future.


Not yet.  Mularky seems to think that Bledsoe had a hand in the team winning 3 of the 4 games prior to the beating the Pats gave them.

But if Losman is healthy enough to go in a game, his time can't be far off.
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« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2004, 09:31:38 PM »

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 Ben isn't the key player on that team yet, and hasn't won any of the games.


Couldn't be any further from the truth. Without him, they're a .500 team at best.

I think Manning has the inside track on MVP, numbers are out of this world.
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« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2004, 09:41:33 PM »

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Couldn't be any further from the truth. Without him, they're a .500 team at best.


Someone on the angry forum pointed out the main thing that suggests this is hooey.  The Steelers are currently running the ball 71% of the time.  SEVENTY-ONE PERCENT of the time, Ben is just handing the ball off.

You can't be an MVP of the league if you are a QB on a team handing the ball off 71% of the time.

One note - this team is ABSOLUTELY a 0.500 team with Maddox at the helm - but that is because Maddox is a horrendous QB.
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« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2004, 09:44:22 PM »

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There you go, pr0ner, I hate the Bills!!  :wink:


Whatever happened to the thread of things Devil hates? slywink
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« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2004, 10:22:43 PM »

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Couldn't be any further from the truth. Without him, they're a .500 team at best.


Someone on the angry forum pointed out the main thing that suggests this is hooey.  The Steelers are currently running the ball 71% of the time.  SEVENTY-ONE PERCENT of the time, Ben is just handing the ball off.

You can't be an MVP of the league if you are a QB on a team handing the ball off 71% of the time.

One note - this team is ABSOLUTELY a 0.500 team with Maddox at the helm - but that is because Maddox is a horrendous QB.


His 101.3 passer rating is 6th in the league, and his 8.5 yards/attempt is 2nd only to Peyton. You need to watch some more Pitt games to realize that teams can't put 8 in the box to stop the run because Roth will kill you with the deep ball. Ask some teams that's already witnessed this, along with his ability to consistently burn the blitzes he faces. Being a fan who watches every single minute of their games gives me a chance to witness much more that what the stats box shows.

Manning has my vote for MVP, he's on pace to break a Marino record that I never thought would be touched for a very long time.
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« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2004, 11:21:12 PM »

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Someone on the angry forum pointed out the main thing that suggests this is hooey. The Steelers are currently running the ball 71% of the time. SEVENTY-ONE PERCENT of the time, Ben is just handing the ball off.


Teehee!! That was Kelric on the 'Angry Forum'.

I'm with RM9 on this one. The Steelers run run run run run...
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« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2004, 01:14:35 PM »

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His 101.3 passer rating is 6th in the league, and his 8.5 yards/attempt is 2nd only to Peyton.


I understand, and I don't care.  When your team runs the ball 71% of the time, I don't care whether the QB has a perfect passer rating or not.  He's not the MVP of the league under those conditions.

Everyone keeps trying to argue that Ben is good.  That wasn't the argument.  He is good.  The discussion was whether or not he should be the MVP.  He should not even be considered at this point.
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« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2004, 02:25:55 PM »

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At least Bills fans can look forward to a high pick in the first round...no, wait...Donahoe traded that away too!


Jerry Jones will blow that pick on another bad player.
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« Reply #20 on: November 17, 2004, 02:41:12 PM »

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His 101.3 passer rating is 6th in the league, and his 8.5 yards/attempt is 2nd only to Peyton.

Like RunningMn said, when your QB hands the ball off so much, who cares about his stats?  Ben's stats are padded by teams paying so much attention to the run, not the other way around.   Ben is good, but MVP of the Steelers?  That'd probably be shared between the offensive and defensive lines.  When Big Ben wins a game on his own, then we can talk.  Has Ben won a shootout yet when the running game got shut down, or when the defense has failed?
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« Reply #21 on: November 17, 2004, 04:21:43 PM »

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At least Bills fans can look forward to a high pick in the first round...no, wait...Donahoe traded that away too!


I forgot to deal with this nonsense.  Donahoe didn't "trade that away" for cheetos and hand jobs.  Rather than roll the dice in 2005 with an unknown 1st round pick, drafting a QB that would have to start right away, he used the pick in 2004 to get a QB they really liked that would get a year in the system before they needed to start him.

And I'm sure he was aware that with Travis Henry and Willis McGahee on the roster, getting back into the first round probably isn't going to be a very difficult task if there is a player they really want.

I say to trade Henry to someone with a low pick, and get some offensive line help already.  I mean damn.
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« Reply #22 on: November 17, 2004, 05:08:37 PM »

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I say to trade Henry to someone with a low pick, and get some offensive line help already. I mean damn.

Low second round pick?  Henry doesn't warrant a first round pick, especially after McGahee (or however you spell it) took over and has done a lot better (though other factors at work there).  Dillon got a decent second round pick out of the Patriots.  Most other teams were only willing to give up third round picks for Dillon.  Dillon had some baggage, but had proven to be a better runner then Henry has so far.

The Bills may be able to package Henry and a second round to move into the first round, but maybe not.
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« Reply #23 on: November 17, 2004, 06:37:32 PM »

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Donahoe didn't "trade that away" for cheetos and hand jobs.


Maybe he should have. How good is JP going to be? How good would a Top 10 pick at QB be coming out of next year's draft be?(White, Leinart etc.)
Would you have traded this year's pick for JP?

Big Ben went 2 spots ahead of Evans - Could you have moved up the 2 spots and got him instead? It was before the Steelers had Duce. They might have been interested in Mr. Henry or was Donahoe unsure of his McGahee pick at that point?

Just throwing it all out there.
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« Reply #24 on: November 17, 2004, 08:30:01 PM »

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His 101.3 passer rating is 6th in the league, and his 8.5 yards/attempt is 2nd only to Peyton.


I understand, and I don't care.  When your team runs the ball 71% of the time, I don't care whether the QB has a perfect passer rating or not.  He's not the MVP of the league under those conditions.

Everyone keeps trying to argue that Ben is good.  That wasn't the argument.  He is good.  The discussion was whether or not he should be the MVP.  He should not even be considered at this point.


I NEVER said he was MVP, I said Manning deserves that right now. Other QB's like Culpepper, McNabb, and Brees are ahead of Ben in MVP consideration.

I think you guys are talking about comments from that other thread?

And to all Bills fans,
I do feel sory for your suffering at the hands of Mularkey and O'Donahue. I danced a jig when Mularkey was finally let go from Pitt, I couldn't stand his triple-reverse type trick plays on 3rd and 1. The guy was awful as an OC, except for early on when the league didn't know his bag of tricks. As for O'Donahue, we give thanks that he lost the power struggle with Cowher....good riddance.

How Bledsoe remains as a starter is beyond me? He's a statute, ala Warner and Maddox, that only needs to be blitzed upon and the D gets instant results.
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