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« on: December 11, 2008, 05:42:26 PM »

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Remains described as being those of a small child were found Thursday near the home of missing toddler Caylee Anthony's grandparents, a spokesman for the Orange County, Florida, sheriff's office told CNN.  The discovery was made about 9:30 a.m. by a utility worker, who alerted authorities, spokesman Jim Solomons said. Investigators, including those from the Anthony case and defense team, were on the scene, he said.

Police Capt. Angelo Nieves was reluctant to disclose details of the discovery to reporters at the scene, other than to say the skeletal remains found in a plastic bag appeared consistent with those of a young child. The Anthony family has been notified of the discovery, he said.
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Solomons said he could not confirm reports that the body was that of a small girl. Asked about the distance from the site to Casey Anthony's parents' home, he said it would be "very safe to say it's in very close proximity."
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« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2008, 08:28:36 PM »

sad day for that family.  if the mother (dare she even call herself one) is found guilty, i hope she hangs. 
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« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2008, 08:44:47 PM »

There have been hundreds of people combing that area for months now. Either they all did a really bad job, or the body was just dumped there.

At least, that was my first thought when I saw it on the news.

Quote from: Caine on December 11, 2008, 08:28:36 PM

sad day for that family.  if the mother (dare she even call herself one) is found guilty, i hope she hangs. 

I also would like to see the mother hang, but I have no sympathy for the grandparents.
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« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2008, 08:46:40 PM »

Quote from: msteelers on December 11, 2008, 08:44:47 PM

There have been hundreds of people combing that area for months now. Either they all did a really bad job, or the body was just dumped there.

At least, that was my first thought when I saw it on the news.

Quote from: Caine on December 11, 2008, 08:28:36 PM

sad day for that family.  if the mother (dare she even call herself one) is found guilty, i hope she hangs. 

I also would like to see the mother hang, but I have no sympathy for the grandparents.

i haven't followed the trail around the grandparents.  anyone care to give me the cliff notes version? 

edited due to a miswording.
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« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2008, 08:50:09 PM »

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« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2008, 09:46:08 PM »

Quote from: msteelers on December 11, 2008, 08:44:47 PM

There have been hundreds of people combing that area for months now. Either they all did a really bad job, or the body was just dumped there.

At least, that was my first thought when I saw it on the news.

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The area around the remains, swarmed by more than two dozen officials including FBI agents, was searched by police previously but had been flooded at the time.
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« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2008, 04:09:11 PM »

Quote from: Caine on December 11, 2008, 08:46:40 PM

Quote from: msteelers on December 11, 2008, 08:44:47 PM

There have been hundreds of people combing that area for months now. Either they all did a really bad job, or the body was just dumped there.

At least, that was my first thought when I saw it on the news.

Quote from: Caine on December 11, 2008, 08:28:36 PM

sad day for that family.  if the mother (dare she even call herself one) is found guilty, i hope she hangs. 

I also would like to see the mother hang, but I have no sympathy for the grandparents.

i haven't followed the trail around the grandparents.  anyone care to give me the cliff notes version? 

edited due to a miswording.

Cliff notes version is the grandparents are crazy, and can't stop talking no matter which lawyer tells them to shut up.
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« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2008, 09:11:06 PM »

well, if they know something, they should be talking, although if they can't keep the story straight, i'm inclined to think they have something to hide.
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« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2008, 07:06:51 PM »

Current press conference.

The remains have been confirmed by nuclear DNA analysis by the FBI that it is Caylee Anthony.  There is no evident trauma to the bones.  Toxicology is still outstanding.  Manner of death is homicide.  Cause is undetermined at this time and may be revised.
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« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2011, 06:24:34 PM »

Arise.

Casey Anthony has been found not guilty of first-degree murder in the 2008 death of her 2-year-old daughter Caylee. She was also found not guilty of aggravated child abuse and aggravated manslaughter.

She was found guilty of some charges of giving false information.

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« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2011, 06:26:34 PM »

Quote from: leo8877 on July 05, 2011, 06:24:34 PM

Arise.

Casey Anthony has been found not guilty of first-degree murder in the 2008 death of her 2-year-old daughter Caylee. She was also found not guilty of aggravated child abuse and aggravated manslaughter.

She was found guilty of some charges of giving false information.



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« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2011, 06:29:22 PM »

Holy Hell!!!!

Really, not Guilty?!

So that crazed, sociopathic bitch gets to walk scott free? You mean a month of lies, lies, lies wasn't enough for a jury to see she did do something to kill and get rid of her own flesh and blood?

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« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2011, 06:32:12 PM »

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« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2011, 06:37:26 PM »

I am utterly stunned.  I can't possibly imagine how a not guilty verdict was reached.
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« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2011, 07:48:11 PM »

Quote from: ArmyOfOne on July 05, 2011, 06:37:26 PM

I am utterly stunned.  I can't possibly imagine how a not guilty verdict was reached.

Considering nobody outside of the the people involved in the trial have all of the hard facts about the case. I, am not stunned.

Yay for armchair lawyering.
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« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2011, 07:57:21 PM »

Quote from: SkyLander on July 05, 2011, 07:48:11 PM

Quote from: ArmyOfOne on July 05, 2011, 06:37:26 PM

I am utterly stunned.  I can't possibly imagine how a not guilty verdict was reached.

Considering nobody outside of the the people involved in the trial have all of the hard facts about the case. I, am not stunned.

Yay for armchair lawyering.

But people watch Law & Order!!!  They know how the justice system works!!!!
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« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2011, 08:00:51 PM »

Quote from: SkyLander on July 05, 2011, 07:48:11 PM

Quote from: ArmyOfOne on July 05, 2011, 06:37:26 PM

I am utterly stunned.  I can't possibly imagine how a not guilty verdict was reached.

Considering nobody outside of the the people involved in the trial have all of the hard facts about the case. I, am not stunned.

Yay for armchair lawyering.

Ok, I'll bite. Who killed Caylee Anthony then, Skylander? If Caylee was actually kidnapped and killed by some erratic pedophile, why would Casey Anthony wait over a month to report it to the authorities? Why would she invent a kidnapping nanny person?

John Douglas, who wrote the groundbreaking book 'Mindhunter' based on his 30-year career as a profiler for the FBI, points out in that book that in most of these child murder cases the killer turns out to be a parent.
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« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2011, 08:06:33 PM »

Quote from: PR_GMR on July 05, 2011, 08:00:51 PM

Quote from: SkyLander on July 05, 2011, 07:48:11 PM

Quote from: ArmyOfOne on July 05, 2011, 06:37:26 PM

I am utterly stunned.  I can't possibly imagine how a not guilty verdict was reached.

Considering nobody outside of the the people involved in the trial have all of the hard facts about the case. I, am not stunned.

Yay for armchair lawyering.

Ok, I'll bite. Who killed Caylee Anthony then, Skylander? If Caylee was actually kidnapped and killed by some erratic pedophile, why would Casey Anthony wait over a month to report it to the authorities? Why would she invent a kidnapping nanny person?

John Douglas, who wrote the groundbreaking book 'Mindhunter' based on his 30-year career as a profiler for the FBI, points out in that book that in most of these child murder cases the killer turns out to be a parent.

I believe the case presented by the defense was she died accidentally and they got scared and covered it up.
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« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2011, 08:08:33 PM »

Quote from: The Grue on July 05, 2011, 08:06:33 PM

Quote from: PR_GMR on July 05, 2011, 08:00:51 PM

Quote from: SkyLander on July 05, 2011, 07:48:11 PM

Quote from: ArmyOfOne on July 05, 2011, 06:37:26 PM

I am utterly stunned.  I can't possibly imagine how a not guilty verdict was reached.

Considering nobody outside of the the people involved in the trial have all of the hard facts about the case. I, am not stunned.

Yay for armchair lawyering.

Ok, I'll bite. Who killed Caylee Anthony then, Skylander? If Caylee was actually kidnapped and killed by some erratic pedophile, why would Casey Anthony wait over a month to report it to the authorities? Why would she invent a kidnapping nanny person?

John Douglas, who wrote the groundbreaking book 'Mindhunter' based on his 30-year career as a profiler for the FBI, points out in that book that in most of these child murder cases the killer turns out to be a parent.

I believe the case presented by the defense was she died accidentally and they got scared and covered it up.

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« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2011, 08:21:45 PM »

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« Reply #20 on: July 05, 2011, 08:22:29 PM »

Somebody killed her, sure. But there was no direct evidence linking Casey Anthony to her daughter's death. No DNA. No fingerprints. No witnesses. Nothing. Did she probably do it? Yeah. But probably doesn't cut it when it comes to a conviction.
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« Reply #21 on: July 05, 2011, 08:25:27 PM »

Quote from: PR_GMR on July 05, 2011, 08:00:51 PM

Quote from: SkyLander on July 05, 2011, 07:48:11 PM

Quote from: ArmyOfOne on July 05, 2011, 06:37:26 PM

I am utterly stunned.  I can't possibly imagine how a not guilty verdict was reached.

Considering nobody outside of the the people involved in the trial have all of the hard facts about the case. I, am not stunned.

Yay for armchair lawyering.

Ok, I'll bite. Who killed Caylee Anthony then, Skylander? If Caylee was actually kidnapped and killed by some erratic pedophile, why would Casey Anthony wait over a month to report it to the authorities? Why would she invent a kidnapping nanny person?

John Douglas, who wrote the groundbreaking book 'Mindhunter' based on his 30-year career as a profiler for the FBI, points out in that book that in most of these child murder cases the killer turns out to be a parent.

I'll bite as well.  Casey killed her daughter but the prosecution did not prove it.  Where was the forensic evidence that she did it. Just a few examples. There was no DNA connecting her to the murder.  There were no fingerprints on the duct tape.  They kept harping on the smell of death in the car but then there were 9 others that were around the car several of them that were in law enforcement that did not smell the scent of decomposition.  The medical examiner did not prove a cause of death that could be tied to Casey.  The only thing they did prove was that she lied to the police and she was convicted of that.  Yes I believe that she is guilty.  Yes I believe that she wanted to party and have fun rather then care for her child but it was not proven without a reasonable doubt.  
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« Reply #22 on: July 05, 2011, 08:38:10 PM »

No evidence, no conviction. That's fine and dandy. My wish for Casey Anthony is for bad karma to consume her soul alive.
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« Reply #23 on: July 05, 2011, 08:45:21 PM »

It's very easy for everyone to "know" who killed someone.  It's very hard to prove it.  That's how the legal system works.
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« Reply #24 on: July 05, 2011, 10:56:45 PM »

Quote from: Bullwinkle on July 05, 2011, 08:45:21 PM

It's very easy for everyone to "know" who killed someone.  It's very hard to prove it.  That's how the legal system works.

I just meant that a lot of peoples opinions are fed off of the media and there general sensationalist outlook. Without being there and seeing all the evidence provided. You can say she's totally guilty but all you've seen is what has leaked out.
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« Reply #25 on: July 05, 2011, 11:13:08 PM »

My CSI watching skills leads me to believe that OJ did it.
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« Reply #26 on: July 05, 2011, 11:30:41 PM »

Iam sick to my stomach. It is very funny to see as I do my business here in Orlando how everyone feels that she is going turn up dead if she stays here. Well if she does, whom ever gets accused now know which lawyer to hire to get them off.

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I dont know why because I cant see her heading back home after all the accusations on here parents by her.
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« Reply #27 on: July 05, 2011, 11:35:05 PM »

She's still being held on the charges of which she was found guilty.  It's not like she just walked out of the courtroom onto the street today. 
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« Reply #28 on: July 06, 2011, 12:18:53 AM »

The actions she took after her daughter disappeared were the actions of a guilty person.   She killed her daughter I have zero doubt in my mind about that.
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« Reply #29 on: July 06, 2011, 12:27:19 AM »

i posted this over at OO but i figured i would post it here as well.....

i'm betting she'll be married and pregnant within a year (assuming she is released later this week).

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« Reply #30 on: July 06, 2011, 12:56:46 AM »

Quote from: Isgrimnur on July 05, 2011, 11:35:05 PM

She's still being held on the charges of which she was found guilty.  It's not like she just walked out of the courtroom onto the street today. 

She'll walk on Thursday after the sentencing.  Even if the judge decides that her four counts be served consecutively (4 years total), having served 2.5 years already she'll be out with time served and probation.
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« Reply #31 on: July 06, 2011, 03:53:27 AM »

Just because she was acquitted, it doesnt mean she didnt do it.  It just means the prosecution failed to prove beyond a reasonable doubt, that she did.  The system works that way to protect the innocent and unfortunately sometimes the guilty go free.  If she did in fact do this heinous crime, I hope that kharma drops a 2 ton anvil on her evil head. 
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I believe based on what I have seen on television and in partially read magazine articles that my evaluation of the evidence is better than that of the jurors who watched the entire trial and were instructed on the law and deliberated.  My evaluation is also superior to that of the alternate juror who did not deliberate but told reporters that he also felt the prosecution had not proved the case beyond a reasonable doubt.
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« Reply #33 on: July 06, 2011, 06:06:57 AM »

Quote from: Mr. Fed on July 06, 2011, 04:26:35 AM

I believe based on what I have seen on television and in partially read magazine articles that my evaluation of the evidence is better than that of the jurors who watched the entire trial and were instructed on the law and deliberated.  My evaluation is also superior to that of the alternate juror who did not deliberate but told reporters that he also felt the prosecution had not proved the case beyond a reasonable doubt.
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I've never understood how few people grasp how our legal system actually works.  The benefits of giving an innocent person a chance are worth the occasional sick psycho that gets off.
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« Reply #34 on: July 06, 2011, 01:00:44 PM »

Quote from: Harkonis on July 06, 2011, 06:06:57 AM

Quote from: Mr. Fed on July 06, 2011, 04:26:35 AM

I believe based on what I have seen on television and in partially read magazine articles that my evaluation of the evidence is better than that of the jurors who watched the entire trial and were instructed on the law and deliberated.  My evaluation is also superior to that of the alternate juror who did not deliberate but told reporters that he also felt the prosecution had not proved the case beyond a reasonable doubt.
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I agree with your assessment that you are a better judge slywink

I've never understood how few people grasp how our legal system actually works.  The benefits of giving an innocent person a chance are worth the occasional sick psycho that gets off.

Right. Because we know it's better for that sick psycho to get off so she can destroy another life or kill again. I'm sorry.. That's not a fair trade. Our law system is duly broken. It's our human frailty and all, but its a sincere dark tragedy. True Justice was needed in this case.
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« Reply #35 on: July 06, 2011, 01:43:56 PM »

Quote from: PR_GMR on July 06, 2011, 01:00:44 PM

Quote from: Harkonis on July 06, 2011, 06:06:57 AM

Quote from: Mr. Fed on July 06, 2011, 04:26:35 AM

I believe based on what I have seen on television and in partially read magazine articles that my evaluation of the evidence is better than that of the jurors who watched the entire trial and were instructed on the law and deliberated.  My evaluation is also superior to that of the alternate juror who did not deliberate but told reporters that he also felt the prosecution had not proved the case beyond a reasonable doubt.
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I agree with your assessment that you are a better judge slywink

I've never understood how few people grasp how our legal system actually works.  The benefits of giving an innocent person a chance are worth the occasional sick psycho that gets off.

Right. Because we know it's better for that sick psycho to get off so she can destroy another life or kill again. I'm sorry.. That's not a fair trade. Our law system is duly broken. It's our human frailty and all, but its a sincere dark tragedy. True Justice was needed in this case.

True Justice is not the same as legal justice, and it shouldn't be.  You're passionately angry right now (as am I, as is most of America), which is exactly why the legal system is set up the way it is.  Otherwise, we'd be back to lynch mobs.

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« Reply #36 on: July 06, 2011, 02:51:55 PM »

Quote from: PR_GMR on July 06, 2011, 01:00:44 PM

Quote from: Harkonis on July 06, 2011, 06:06:57 AM

Quote from: Mr. Fed on July 06, 2011, 04:26:35 AM

I believe based on what I have seen on television and in partially read magazine articles that my evaluation of the evidence is better than that of the jurors who watched the entire trial and were instructed on the law and deliberated.  My evaluation is also superior to that of the alternate juror who did not deliberate but told reporters that he also felt the prosecution had not proved the case beyond a reasonable doubt.
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I agree with your assessment that you are a better judge slywink

I've never understood how few people grasp how our legal system actually works.  The benefits of giving an innocent person a chance are worth the occasional sick psycho that gets off.

Right. Because we know it's better for that sick psycho to get off so she can destroy another life or kill again. I'm sorry.. That's not a fair trade. Our law system is duly broken. It's our human frailty and all, but its a sincere dark tragedy. True Justice was needed in this case.

What would a non-broken system look like -- other than producing convictions when you have personally concluded that the defendant was guilty?
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« Reply #37 on: July 06, 2011, 03:13:21 PM »

Quote from: Mr. Fed on July 06, 2011, 02:51:55 PM

Quote from: PR_GMR on July 06, 2011, 01:00:44 PM

Quote from: Harkonis on July 06, 2011, 06:06:57 AM

Quote from: Mr. Fed on July 06, 2011, 04:26:35 AM

I believe based on what I have seen on television and in partially read magazine articles that my evaluation of the evidence is better than that of the jurors who watched the entire trial and were instructed on the law and deliberated.  My evaluation is also superior to that of the alternate juror who did not deliberate but told reporters that he also felt the prosecution had not proved the case beyond a reasonable doubt.
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I've never understood how few people grasp how our legal system actually works.  The benefits of giving an innocent person a chance are worth the occasional sick psycho that gets off.

Right. Because we know it's better for that sick psycho to get off so she can destroy another life or kill again. I'm sorry.. That's not a fair trade. Our law system is duly broken. It's our human frailty and all, but its a sincere dark tragedy. True Justice was needed in this case.

What would a non-broken system look like -- other than producing convictions when you have personally concluded that the defendant was guilty?

I don't know. Maybe something like in 'Minority Report', where law enforcement can see crimes before they're committed. There's no win-win in this type of debate. All I know is there was no justice for that little girl.
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« Reply #38 on: July 06, 2011, 03:30:58 PM »

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I don't know. Maybe something like in 'Minority Report', where law enforcement can see crimes before they're committed. There's no win-win in this type of debate. All I know is there was no justice for that little girl.

Would it be more just if somebody were convicted for killing the little girl, even if proof beyond a reasonable doubt was lacking?
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« Reply #39 on: July 06, 2011, 03:40:24 PM »

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I don't know. Maybe something like in 'Minority Report', where law enforcement can see crimes before they're committed. There's no win-win in this type of debate. All I know is there was no justice for that little girl.

Would it be more just if somebody were convicted for killing the little girl, even if proof beyond a reasonable doubt was lacking?

Didn't the prosecution also state that they wanted to go for the death penalty if Casey was convicted? I don't know about you but I want better proof than what was shown if someone was going to be convicted to die. Turning it around, I would want to see a direct link between me and the murder if I was on trial w/ the death penalty in play.
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