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rittchard
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« on: September 24, 2015, 06:33:24 PM »

This season's Survivor features 20 previous cast members that fans voted in to play.  The criteria is they've only played once before and didn't win (thus the "Second Chance" theme).  It's a nice gimmick/theme, as it incorporates numerous factors that seem to have added up to a really solid cast.  You've got people who've played as many as 15 years ago mixed with people who played as recently as last season.  Some were as close as second place, but there are no actual "Sole Survivors".  No winners is nice, because you don't get the immediate target phenomena that some of the previous "all star" seasons faced.  Since everyone was nominally voted in by fans, there are also no obvious villains or hated contestants. 

This all adds up to what seems to be one of the strongest casts in a long time, at least on paper.  A lot of "game-players"/strategists, but also a lot of solid "survivor" types and "challenge beasts." 

The premiere pretty much set the tone and early themes of the show.  Really looking forward to seeing how some of my previous favorites fare this time around.
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« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2015, 12:00:33 AM »

I'm excited about this season too. Having all these returning players means it's hardcore strategizing from the moment they hit the beach so hopefully we don't have to endure the stupid stuff when novices have no idea what they hell they are doing.

I won't mention who got eliminated first in case there are people who have yet to see the first episode, but the person booted out first was a bit of a surprise. There are a couple of people already on shaky ground, like Abby the crazy psycho Brazilian woman ("WHERE'S MY BRACELET!!!") and Stephen the physically hopeless nerd. Since these people all more or less know how to play the game, I expect big blindsides of some of the physically strong people long before the merge happens. It'll be awesome.
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« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2015, 12:12:35 AM »

I've skipped the last couple of seasons but decided to come back for this one due to the strength of the cast. I always like the shows with veteran players because you dispense with a lot of the "Survivor is HARD" whining and get down to pure gameplay.
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« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2015, 07:25:49 PM »

That was one of the really fun things, watching "old school" players like Jeff Varner and Kelly who have been away for 15 years come back to a very very different game.  Not sure about Kelly but it looks like Jeff hasn't watched a lot of intermediate seasons and so is unfamiliar with different "characters" and many of the new strategic paradigms in the game.  Likely they aren't familiar with some of the newer twists and challenges as well.  Did they even have hidden immunity idols in the first couple of seasons?  Also enjoyed the juxtaposition of the one guy whose daughters were in love with Joe - just hilarious.  Can you imagine how embarrassed they are watching that at home?

I was really disappointed to see Stephen struggling so much, he was one of my favorites in his season.  I guess I have a thing for nerds lol.  But given his knowledge of the game (he blogs about every episode) it was surprising to see how immediately awkward he was (especially searching for the idol), he should really know better.  I'm hoping he can ride out this early phase and get into some sort of alliance.  Let's face it, he really has no solo/challenge game whatsoever lol.
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« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2015, 09:42:37 PM »

The hidden immunity idol became a part of the show starting season 11 in 2005 (Survivor: Guatemala). Those players from the first 10 seasons better get their game going fast.

I can't wait to see what other crazy stuff Psycho Abby stirs up. You get the feeling that she is a ticking bomb ready to blow up. She talks about being more patient and becoming "a better person", but trying to learn life lessons on the fly in that environment is going to be hard.
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« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2015, 09:54:27 PM »

Kelly doesn't even look like the same person. She's had a lot of work done, and not really for the better IMO.

I was glad the first person voted out was that person. Never liked them.

Overall it was OK, but I'm afraid the newer players are going to have a significant advantage.
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« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2015, 11:14:26 PM »

Quote from: YellowKing on September 27, 2015, 09:54:27 PM

Kelly doesn't even look like the same person. She's had a lot of work done, and not really for the better IMO.

I was glad the first person voted out was that person. Never liked them.

Overall it was OK, but I'm afraid the newer players are going to have a significant advantage.

Those lips on Kelly are eeeeeeeeekk.  Actually I think that's the majority of the work she had done, and it kind of went awry.

That smarmy Vytas had to go sooner rather than later, and seriously did he have to keep sticking his package all over the place lol?
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« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2015, 11:22:54 PM »

Arise! Since the season ended last week.

It was probably the most entertaining season in Survivor's long run. Seemed like every week was a blindside vote at tribal and we had just about everything happen this season. Horrible torrential mind numbing rain, injuries, a player suddenly pulling out due to family emergency, crazy immunity idol shenanigans, alliances that changed literally week to week. My favorite moments this season:

1. Kelly Wentworth playing her idol, surprising everyone at tribal, including Andrew who was blindsided by the votes cast against him. The look on Andrew's face was classic, only to be topped off by him flipping Kelly the bird as he was leaving.
2. Stephen's Moby Dick-like obsession with trying to get Joe the golden boy out of the game. It was like a geek's life metaphor.
3. The wild final tribal council where two idols were played and ALL votes were nullified. First time in Survivor history.
4. Jeremy's emotional answer at the jury questioning tribal council. He pretty much won it right there by tugging on everyone's heart strings. Maybe a calculated tactic, but he seemed pretty sincere. He was a very worthy winner.
5. Kelly Wigglesworth absolutely laming out and having her vote for a winner determined by random number selection. It was stupid in season one and it's still stupid. Wigglesworth sucks.

Next season, in February is the return of a normal cast but they're bringing back the lame brains vs. beauty vs. brawn format. Ugh. It's going to be a massive letdown after the wild drama of second chances but of course, I'll be watching.
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« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2015, 01:09:03 AM »

Agree with all of Jimmy's comments!  Definitely one of the best seasons of Survivor ever! 

It's funny because, in retrospect, Jeremy as the winner was all but telegraphed, yet I never really saw it coming.  With all the twists and turns, no one seemed to recognize the true threat and/or do anything to nullify it.  I think the editing was done really well so that it always seemed like things were crazy and up in the air, but once you boil it down, Jeremy was almost as inevitable a winner as some of the more boring season folks.  As he mentioned himself, he should be a favorite in the final given that he's a firefighter, his kids, etc.  He also certainly seemed to be one of the most physically fit cast members, and in a "normal" season would likely be a strong challenge contender.  And apparently most everyone liked him to boot, so his core alliance(s) were strong.  In some ways he reminded me of JT, which he himself alluded to earlier on when he took Stephen in.  And yet Stephen himself was so obsessed with Joe he never got the chance to recognize the larger overall threat.  I found it interesting that people criticized Stephen for wanting to take out "JT" again and again - what other method was there for him to win?  I do wonder what would have happened if Joe stayed in the game, I'm not certain his social game would beat Jeremy.

Ultimately I was most disappointed in Spencer, who I always felt should have a strong shot to win.  He also seemed to completely miss the biggest threat in Jeremy, instead choosing to focus on Stephen as a target, which was silly since he should know he could beat him in challenges and possibly with the jury as well.  Really the two of them should have paired up and maybe taken Abi/goat to the final.  Not sure who would have won in that case.     
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« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2015, 07:06:04 PM »

My impression is that Jeremy might not have been considered so much of a physical threat as others because he only won one immunity challenge near the end. Everyone was so focused on Joe for a while and then Kelly Wentworth, then Spencer and Keith since they were winning all the challenges. That probably allowed Jeremy to get he social game going, but he played that aspect masterfully, although he could have really blown it by being so mean to Kimmi when she was eliminated.

Spencer did blow it though. He was all about working on his social game but judging from the comments from the jury at the last tribal council, he was only partially successful since they still thought he was an arrogant prick a lot of the time.

Tasha played the classic end game fail. Ride other people's coat tails to the very end and get no jury love because they all thought she coasted to the end.

I really hope they bring back the second chances format again soon. It's way more fun seeing a group of alpha types who all know how to play the game.
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