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« Reply #320 on: November 19, 2014, 10:49:10 PM »

The show has been excellent this year.  I was hopeful after the second half of last season, but I wasn't expecting it to be this good.  The show is doing everything well - character development, overarching story, action.  I also love how they
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went full-on villain with Ward.  Too many shows do silly things to redeem their villains in order to keep a popular actor on the show *cough*Buffy*cough* so it's nice to see them avoid this.
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« Reply #321 on: November 20, 2014, 12:25:15 AM »

Quote from: EddieA on November 19, 2014, 10:49:10 PM

The show has been excellent this year.  I was hopeful after the second half of last season, but I wasn't expecting it to be this good.  The show is doing everything well - character development, overarching story, action.  I also love how they
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went full-on villain with Ward.  Too many shows do silly things to redeem their villains in order to keep a popular actor on the show *cough*Buffy*cough* so it's nice to see them avoid this.

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Yeah he is so much better as a "villain."  So much sexier too, it's like he had a complete personality makeover.  Still, I think they may still try to redeem him as he could just be faking things to get in with Hydra.  I don't think he really killed his family but that would be cool if he did.
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« Reply #322 on: November 20, 2014, 01:59:52 PM »

Up until the reveal earlier this season, I had held out hope that Skye's father was Howard the Duck.   crybaby
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« Reply #323 on: November 20, 2014, 11:26:23 PM »

I almost slept through it again but woke up and ran to the TV long enough to get my Hayley Atwell fix. The Weghted Companion Cube will never threaten to stab you.

I think at some point if I can watch the whole Season 1 and so-far Season 2 in one fell swoop, maybe I'll get back into it. For now I'm probably returning to ignoring it until Agent Carter premieres Jan. 6 as the mid-winter fill in.  icon_smile
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« Reply #324 on: November 21, 2014, 03:53:23 AM »

You can safely ignore the first two thirds of season 1.  It was pretty awful.  But after that it just takes off like a rocket.  Most improvement in a show I've seen in ages.
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« Reply #325 on: March 04, 2015, 10:19:00 PM »

Show is back, for better or worse!

I didn't realize it's pretty much been revealed who Skye is and what her powers are, though her origin has been altered.  Will be interesting to see if she crosses over at all with the Age of Ultron and/or Inhumans movies.

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« Reply #326 on: April 15, 2015, 05:31:40 PM »

Anyone else still watching?  Last night's episode detailing how May became the Cavalry was really good.

The show as a whole I'm having mixed feelings.  While part of me is happy they've finally embraced powers/gifts (or whatever you want to call them), another part of me is wondering if they've already jumped the shark.  I mean, already there's a guy who can teleport it seems with no limitations on distance, a woman who is more or less immortal (?), and then Skye who can create earthquakes and all manner of shock waves, etc.  These are powers at least on the Avengers level.  Not quite Thor level, but certainly more than Captain America or Black Widow or Hawkeye.  It seems like they are falling straight into the trap they originally planned to avoid, where many characters seem obsolete relative to the powered folk. 
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« Reply #327 on: April 15, 2015, 07:54:21 PM »

It'll be okay, the core team is doesn't have powers, right now the arc is dealing with powered people, and prepping for the Inhuman movie way down the line. Plus there's the two shields storyline going at the same time.
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« Reply #328 on: April 16, 2015, 12:37:29 PM »

Quote from: rittchard on April 15, 2015, 05:31:40 PM

Anyone else still watching?  Last night's episode detailing how May became the Cavalry was really good.

The show as a whole I'm having mixed feelings.  While part of me is happy they've finally embraced powers/gifts (or whatever you want to call them), another part of me is wondering if they've already jumped the shark.  I mean, already there's a guy who can teleport it seems with no limitations on distance, a woman who is more or less immortal (?), and then Skye who can create earthquakes and all manner of shock waves, etc.  These are powers at least on the Avengers level.  Not quite Thor level, but certainly more than Captain America or Black Widow or Hawkeye.  It seems like they are falling straight into the trap they originally planned to avoid, where many characters seem obsolete relative to the powered folk. 

I am going to fall back on the same feelings for the printed comic book media.  IF the non-powered get overshadowed, its because of the writing/story lines.  To take the DC example, Batman is horribly out powered in the Justice League, even the Outsiders, yet the stories are usually good or better for his inclusion.

The DC shows have to be wary of the same trap.  Arrow started out with no powers, to stay "grounded in reality" (I don't think that is possible for these shows), and have introduced super soldiers (Meraclu -whatever), non- existent super tech, and actual meta humans. Yet the show holds its own.
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« Reply #329 on: April 21, 2015, 09:53:02 AM »

I'm loving this season, especially Skye's continuing evolution.  While we've seen plenty of origin stories, how often do we get to see a weekly TV series that examines the full origin of a (relatively unknown) superhero?  Watching Skye transform from introverted hacker into someone who can literally move mountains has been fascinating, and that's just one of the many aspects of the show.  They're really firing on all cylinders now, and I'm eager to see where they go with all this.

Also, the show is spinning off Bobbi and Lance into their own series, so it's possible they'll continue to explore superpowers on Agents of SHIELD, while the new show sticks closer to the original premise.
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« Reply #330 on: April 21, 2015, 12:32:36 PM »

If they are going to give Mockingbird her own show they at least need to give her some amber sunglasses to wear one time.
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« Reply #331 on: April 21, 2015, 12:40:16 PM »

How are SHIELD's ratings right now? Are they really good enough to spin something like this from?

Not sure that pair can hold their own. Sad thing is, I'd look forward more to a Black Widow movie than this.
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« Reply #332 on: April 21, 2015, 08:47:01 PM »

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How are SHIELD's ratings right now? Are they really good enough to spin something like this from?

Not sure that pair can hold their own. Sad thing is, I'd look forward more to a Black Widow movie than this.

I was thinking the exact same thing.  I thought SHIELD was barely holding its own in the ratings, nowhere near enough to deserve a spinoff.  Maybe it's more of a mini-series like Agent Carter for the mid-season?

I guess they are doing OK in their time slot, and perhaps with Avengers launching soon they'll get some pickup toward the last few episodes.  But a full spinoff with two more un-powered agents definitely seems egregious. 

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« Reply #333 on: April 22, 2015, 12:28:46 AM »

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Also, the show is spinning off Bobbi and Lance into their own series, so it's possible they'll continue to explore superpowers on Agents of SHIELD, while the new show sticks closer to the original premise.

If true that's a shame. I had heard they were doing a spinoff show, but nobody knew which characters the new show would center around. Hunter has turned into one of my favorite characters. It would be a shame to have him leave the cast.
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« Reply #334 on: April 22, 2015, 07:15:32 AM »

Yeah, so how the heck did this show get so good? Has there been a complete turn over in the writing and directing crew?

This latest episode didn't feel like just a bunch of prep work for the season finale, even though it was.

I think I can see what angle they'll be going for with the spin-off. Something like, "SHIELD Undercover" where as speculated above, they deal with normal threats. Still tying into the powered stuff, but tangentially and with more spy intrigue and mystery, more Alias than SHIELD. Wouldn't be surprised if they took on a different organization other than Hydra, maybe AIM? Tongue Meanwhile Coulson and whatever he has planned manages powered threats as per agreement with a unified SHIELD.

I also just realized that Avengers 2 is out next week, meaning next week's finale leads right into Avengers 2. He absolutely has to show up again in that movie, so that finale will put him in some kind of position to appear, and something in the show itself could help the Avengers. Then, when season 3 picks up, you get to build up for all the other Marvel stuff coming out.

Even though whoever is running this is getting paid a helluva lot, I don't envy the work they have to do.
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« Reply #335 on: April 30, 2015, 06:29:24 PM »

Really great episode leasing into Avengers 2, and hopefully next week's lead out will follow suit in similar fashion to last year's Captain America extravaganza.  I'm trying my best to stay away from all forms of spoilers, but it's so hard lol.

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So are these "Inhumans" from the show the actual Inhumans from the comic, like they are based on the moon or whatever?  And Lockjaw?!?!?!


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« Reply #336 on: May 01, 2015, 12:02:36 AM »

On Inhumans:
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Yes, it's the same Inhumans from the comics, however we're only seeing a small portion of them. Basically all the people that aren't big enough to end up in the movie.

The Movie will likely have much, much more powerful characters.
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« Reply #337 on: May 08, 2015, 12:41:18 PM »

ABC has announced their fall plans - both Agents of SHIELD and Agent Carter will be back, but the potential Bobbi and Mack spinoff is no longer happening.

BTW, did anyone else catch the Sonic reference a few weeks back?  icon_biggrin
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« Reply #338 on: May 08, 2015, 08:26:48 PM »

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So happy Dichen killed Edward James Olmos, I just can't stand him!  Of course now she's probably gonna die... again.
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« Reply #339 on: May 08, 2015, 08:52:13 PM »

I'm impressed and very happy that Agent Carter is returning.  I thought it was great, but the ratings hardly lit the world on fire -- I thought it was a one-and-done for sure.

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« Reply #340 on: May 13, 2015, 07:06:53 AM »

So, wow. Great season finale. So many things paying off.

Also, so strange seeing the IT girl from Castle as Agent 33.

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Coulson and Cal's exchange and turnaround was a great. Cal's character was also weird and villainous, but had that compelling Dad aspect that they wove in over time. Great to see his character come to an interesting conclusion.

Raina dying as she did, wow, that was quite a redemption. I kind of hope she somehow survives just because I kind of thought they wasted her character a bit, especially after her new creature make-up restricted a lot of her actress' acting ability. But, this is a decent way to send her character off, and her abilities would be a bit much during the show. They'd have to make her annoyingly cryptic, or not around enough to matter.

Fitsimmons finally getting that moment before battle.

What's with them giving Skye so many crazy fight scenes. I wonder if her actress asked for more action.

Sad to see Agent 33 get offed like that, but also good to see Ward get one of his stupid and insane plans foiled. It's also nice to see him being positioned as a bigger villain, which also means at some point they'll be able to finally kill him off.

Coulson losing his arm at the end was a scary moment. Seeing him start to petrify, I knew he couldn't die, but I wonder what they would do. Just as I realized that Mac had an axe, and that arm was lying right there, the axe came down.

At least we also know what happens with the InHumans between this season of AoS and the InHumans movie. Unfortunately, we don't know what the deal with Jemma is being swallowed up like that. I don't know the marvel universe that well so I don't know if she might become something specific, or a new character.

Also, the spin off with Bobbi and Hunter isn't happening, and I'm kind of glad it didn't. But also very glad to see AoS doing really, really well in the ratings. I wonder if the plan is to spin off a Secret Avengers show as they were hinting in the final scenes. After all, if Skye is pursuing a secret team of powered people, it'll be hard to have both a powered team and a regular team cast at the same time. Although, Jemma might now be one of those powered types. Mac is also know established as being touched by Kree technology, so that might show up later too.
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« Reply #341 on: May 13, 2015, 04:11:10 PM »

All I gotta say for the last second is RuhRoh  eek
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« Reply #342 on: May 13, 2015, 06:27:56 PM »

Yeah that last scene was a fantastic cliffhanger!  The whole episode was pretty cool and action packed, well worth the wait.

But to Turtle's comment, I'm not sure where you are getting the idea that the ratings for the show are good.  I just looked at the ratings this morning and last week's ep was around 4 million.  Considering that was the lead-out from Avengers, I was expecting a lot more.
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« Reply #343 on: May 14, 2015, 01:34:14 AM »

Quote from: rittchard on May 13, 2015, 06:27:56 PM

Yeah that last scene was a fantastic cliffhanger!  The whole episode was pretty cool and action packed, well worth the wait.

But to Turtle's comment, I'm not sure where you are getting the idea that the ratings for the show are good.  I just looked at the ratings this morning and last week's ep was around 4 million.  Considering that was the lead-out from Avengers, I was expecting a lot more.

But there was no compelling reason for people to watch Avengers and then rush back to Agents of Shield. Not like with The Winter Soldier, which made a lot of people (myself included) go back and start watching the show again. If anything I would expect ratings to drop as AoS viewers wait to see Avengers in the theater before coming back to finish the last two episodes.
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« Reply #344 on: May 14, 2015, 08:18:02 PM »

Quote from: msteelers on May 14, 2015, 01:34:14 AM

Quote from: rittchard on May 13, 2015, 06:27:56 PM

Yeah that last scene was a fantastic cliffhanger!  The whole episode was pretty cool and action packed, well worth the wait.

But to Turtle's comment, I'm not sure where you are getting the idea that the ratings for the show are good.  I just looked at the ratings this morning and last week's ep was around 4 million.  Considering that was the lead-out from Avengers, I was expecting a lot more.

But there was no compelling reason for people to watch Avengers and then rush back to Agents of Shield. Not like with The Winter Soldier, which made a lot of people (myself included) go back and start watching the show again. If anything I would expect ratings to drop as AoS viewers wait to see Avengers in the theater before coming back to finish the last two episodes.

That is exactly what happened to me, didn't want to spoil any Avengers stuff with AoS (turns out not much would have been given away, kinda disappointed there wasn't more AoS in Avengers).  Did like the last scene, nice setup for next season and good overall season for me.
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« Reply #345 on: May 14, 2015, 10:37:29 PM »

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Yeah he is so much better as a "villain."  So much sexier too, it's like he had a complete personality makeover.  Still, I think they may still try to redeem him as he could just be faking things to get in with Hydra.  I don't think he really killed his family but that would be cool if he did.

This. Totally this. From handsome guy who was okay to look at to so-hot-he-makes-me-all-tingly guy whenever he's on screen.
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