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« on: May 26, 2014, 06:26:57 AM »

So several of you have approached me to "clean up your online persona" or various deviations from that statement.  Let me explain how the Internet works.  Once you say something, it's said.  Like, forever.  Google indexes this site, sure, but it also caches everything.  I can still find stuff from ConsoleGold.com and that's long since passed into the realm of spammers and cybersquatters.  Deleting posts from the forums makes literally not one iota of good.  Not even a little.  There is no such thing as 'cleaning up'.  I've been in the Internet Provider industry for approaching 20 years, so trust me on this one guys.   Believe me, I'd love to help you, but the only thing I can offer is a shield.  If I'm approached to release information on you or anything said on this site, I'll refuse.  No information will pass from this site to any agency.  The only information available here is available to the public; the information you've already posted.   
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« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2014, 06:35:47 AM »

It's both a blessing and a curse. One has to wonder if the Internet will work the same way in, say, 20 years.
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« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2014, 06:40:05 AM »

Quote from: TiLT on May 26, 2014, 06:35:47 AM

It's both a blessing and a curse. One has to wonder if the Internet will work the same way in, say, 20 years.

The way our government is allying (or forcing) companies to cooperate with shady investigations, I see a cyberwar the likes of which we've never seen on the horizon.  Personal privacy and digital privacy are converging, and neither of them are safe. 
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« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2014, 03:10:35 PM »

Lies! Everyone know you have control over the reset Internet button!
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« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2014, 04:17:42 PM »

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on May 26, 2014, 06:26:57 AM

So several of you have approached me to "clean up your online persona" or various deviations from that statement.  

People are seriously asking you to do this?   saywhat
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« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2014, 04:50:50 PM »

Quote from: TiLT on May 26, 2014, 06:35:47 AM

It's both a blessing and a curse. One has to wonder if the Internet will work the same way in, say, 20 years.
Don't worry. By then the autonomous robots will have taken over Earth, and we won't have to do anything anymore. Internet will be irrelevant.  We put the fun in funeral
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« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2014, 05:50:46 PM »

Quote from: Gratch on May 26, 2014, 04:17:42 PM

People are seriously asking you to do this?   saywhat

I didn't know she was a dude!  saywhat
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« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2014, 02:09:41 PM »

I would actually request that you put MORE stuff about me on the board.  And make it salacious! I want to sound dangerous and cool!
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« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2014, 05:13:12 PM »

Quote from: hepcat on May 27, 2014, 02:09:41 PM

I would actually request that you put MORE stuff about me on the board.  And make it salacious! I want to sound dangerous and cool!

WTF are you saying you AREN'T dangerous and cool?!??!  Now you ruined my day.
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« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2014, 05:25:26 PM »

In my mind, I'm Fonzie.  In reality, I'm Richie.

...ah, who am I kidding? 

Potsie.
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« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2014, 08:22:50 PM »

Isn't this what forum names are for?  None of you know I am really Jorge Bergogli so you can never tie what I say to doctrine.

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« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2014, 09:13:04 PM »

Quote from: farley2k on May 27, 2014, 08:22:50 PM

Isn't this what forum names are for?  None of you know I am really Jorge Bergogli so you can never tie what I say to doctrine.



You are 100% correct, Jorge.  (I'm totally changing your name to Jorge) And yes...people ask me to delete stuff all the time.  Most of the time I simply so no.  It's the Internet, there is no CTRL-Z here.
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« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2014, 09:27:15 PM »

Maybe you should explain that the Spanish court behind this:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2154281/europes-top-court-orders-google-to-forget.html



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« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2014, 10:04:38 PM »

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on May 27, 2014, 09:13:04 PM

Quote from: farley2k on May 27, 2014, 08:22:50 PM

Isn't this what forum names are for?  None of you know I am really Jorge Bergogli so you can never tie what I say to doctrine.



You are 100% correct, Jorge.  (I'm totally changing your name to Jorge) And yes...people ask me to delete stuff all the time.  Most of the time I simply so no.  It's the Internet, there is no CTRL-Z here.

It will forever be known that you wrote "so no" instead of "say no"
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« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2014, 11:05:16 PM »

Quote from: Caine on May 27, 2014, 09:27:15 PM

Maybe you should explain that the Spanish court behind this:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2154281/europes-top-court-orders-google-to-forget.html





The court ordered google to remove links to the data not the data itself.  The data has to be considered old or out of date.

The search engine operator has to examine such requests thoroughly to determine if the information displayed about the person is still relevant. If it isn’t, the links to webpages containing that information must be removed, unless there are particular reasons not to do so, such as when knowing the linked information about a public figure is in the interest of the public, the court said.

It probably wont fly because of "Google said it was “very surprised” by the ruling that goes against the opinion of the EU advocate general who said last year that there was no universal right to be forgotten."
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« Reply #15 on: May 28, 2014, 02:12:36 PM »

It is just so dumb.

Why shouldn't all libraries be forced to burn old newspapers?  After all a paper from 1947 probably has my father's birth announcement - so his name, age, etc.  A paper from 1967 could have a DUI listed in the police blotter for someone famous. 

Are those "relevant"  if so why? Is a tabloid saying Jennifer Aniston is marrying Brad Pitt relevant since they are divorced?  Who decides?
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« Reply #16 on: May 28, 2014, 07:13:48 PM »

I thought we covered our tracks well from GoneGold to ConsoleGold to GamingTrend.  Thankfully Dan Brown kept conspiracy nuts focused on mythical dead ends like the Illuminati, Templars, and Assassins.  I think our true actions started becoming more suspicious without CeeKay operational.  Hence, more people asking to have their data "cleaned".  We're all more exposed without CeeKay. ninja
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« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2014, 11:45:24 AM »

CeeKay exposed himself for all of us... crybaby

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« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2014, 01:41:25 PM »

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on May 26, 2014, 06:26:57 AM

If I'm approached to release information on you or anything said on this site, I'll refuse.  No information will pass from this site to any agency.

While that's a nice offer, be careful about making this type of representation. They have ways of making your life financially and personally miserable if you refuse a legitimate court order.

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« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2014, 02:05:54 AM »

If it is impossible to clean up online persona then does that mean it is possible to permanently destroy someone's reputation.

For example if I want to ruin someone's reputation. I can create a forum account under that person's name and post some nasty racist stuffs. There is no way for that person to clean up his reputation?
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« Reply #20 on: May 30, 2014, 07:32:02 AM »

Wait, how's the internet work again? Tongue
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« Reply #21 on: May 30, 2014, 03:06:01 PM »

Al Gore gets up every morning and flips on the switch.  Then we all get to use the internet.
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« Reply #22 on: June 05, 2014, 01:47:29 PM »

Google Has Received Over 41,000 Requests To "Forget" Personal Information

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In the three weeks since a key ruling by the European Court of Justice about the so-called right to be forgotten, Google has already received around 41,000 requests to delete links to personal information from its search results (within 24 hours of putting the form online, Google had reportedly received 12,000 deletion requests). It should be noted, though, that there is no absolute right to have information deleted, and Google will have to weigh a number of criteria in responding to the requests to delete links, including relevance of the information, and the time passed since the facts related.
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« Reply #23 on: June 05, 2014, 08:30:09 PM »

damn, that's a lot of work with no payoff.
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« Reply #24 on: June 05, 2014, 08:55:13 PM »

If governments require that people pay for services that they're to provide, even to the point of forcing criminals to pay fees for electronic monitoring bracelets, Google should absolutely have the right to require a fee-for-service model in this case.
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« Reply #25 on: June 06, 2014, 02:01:07 AM »

Quote from: Jag on May 29, 2014, 01:41:25 PM

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on May 26, 2014, 06:26:57 AM

If I'm approached to release information on you or anything said on this site, I'll refuse.  No information will pass from this site to any agency.

While that's a nice offer, be careful about making this type of representation. They have ways of making your life financially and personally miserable if you refuse a legitimate court order.



Not just an offer.  I'd burn the place to the ground first.  Additionally, Gaming Trend will be an LLC shortly, so I wouldn't be doing anything...I just work here.  Businesses are people now, so they can just talk to the Gaming Trend.  slywink
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