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« on: July 25, 2014, 10:24:36 PM »

So I've been at my job for coming up on three years now.  In that time I've had 8 bosses, 6 VPs, and 4 CIOs.  My newest boss sat back and analyzed things for over 4 months, leaving an ailing department to suffer in the wake.  We've also had 7 reorgs in that time.   I've not received a decent pay raise in three years.  (The first was pro-rated because reasons, the second they punished everyone because our current CIO was angry at our boss at the time, and the third got shuffled out to January to reset the cycle as we used to get raises in July)  I've been handed four teams to manage, with two managers reporting to me that I have to mentor.  I made a case for a promotion to Director more than enough times and I'm getting the runaround.   People adjacent to my boss in the org chart are telling me that it'll work itself out if I'm patient, but c'mon...I've been hearing that for three years.   I feel underappreciated and underpaid for the amount of work I do.   At what point do you say enough is enough?     icon_cry
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« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2014, 10:30:28 PM »

Second to who you marry, I believe your job satisfaction is the most important contributor to your overall happiness and well-being. Most people spend more waking time at their job per day than they do at home. That's a big deal.

I don't advise quitting without a contingency plan or another job offer, but when you start asking yourself if it's time to quit, you probably already know the answer.
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« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2014, 11:29:04 PM »

Yeah, I'm not the type of person to jump ship at first sign of frustration and trouble (or second, or third sign) but there comes a point where you need to look after your own sanity and well being. 

I'm sure it's different with so much changing management, but sometimes you also just have to face the fact that the company you work for is never going to completely change, despite promises otherwise.  Everybody loves to promise they will do things differently and better, but without concrete plans for how to accomplish that it's really not too likely as people fall back into patterns.

Being in a volatile industry, I tend to try to keep enough money in the bank for at least a few months of rent and living if things go bad.  Recently I used that as a way to just quit and take a few months off when things were looking grim.
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« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2014, 11:45:26 PM »

This is a really tough one to crack.  I've been going through some similar pains at work (though nowhere near as bad as what you describe), so I certainly empathize.  I'd echo the sentiment that you probably already know the answer to your own question, and it's more of a matter of assessing what your alternatives are. 

That said, I'll play devil's advocate for a second for discussion's sake.  You mention not getting a raise, but how is your base salary, i.e. do you feel in general you are paid well, do you get other perks or bonuses?  Do you enjoy other aspects of the job?  Do you have friends/co-workers at work that you care about and enjoy being around, i.e. is the general day to day experience good?  How is your commute?  How demanding is the job on your time, i.e. are you left with plenty of time for important things like family and gaming and this website (and ME  slywink )?

Speaking from direct experience, it's very easy to become completely consumed with all the bad things you perceive, and forget the other factors that kept you at the job to begin with.  Definitely some things to keep in mind while assessing the alternatives.  A colleague of mine just left the company after 10 years and started a new job which she thought was going to be so much better for her career; while it's only been a week so far, I think she's already realizing the grass isn't always as green on the other side as it might seem...     
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« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2014, 12:33:22 AM »

Not until you have another job. Going through the job hunt should help you confirm that your working conditions are really that bad... or perhaps make you realize it could be worse.

Either way, I would never quit without having another job offer.
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« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2014, 12:53:13 AM »

I'm in a similar situation, but I'm feeling trapped because my wife is going through crazy health issues and I'm worried a new company's health issues won't cover things as well as my current one is. But really, that's a cop-out, because I'm not even looking at what options are out there.

But I echo what everyone else is saying. Find new job, then quit old one. You not only get that nifty benefit of maintaining an income, everyone always says the search itself goes better if you still have a job and aren't urgent desperate to get the new one.
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« Reply #6 on: Today at 02:04:55 AM »

Quote from: Knightshade Dragon on July 25, 2014, 10:24:36 PM

So I've been at my job for coming up on three years now.  In that time I've had 8 bosses, 6 VPs, and 4 CIOs.  



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