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« on: August 05, 2014, 11:03:05 PM »

What do you think of the Vessyl? All kidding about $200 cups and reading labels aside, this is a really cool tech -- it basically knows what you put in the cup, and knows what you drank. It also tracks how much calories, nutrients and water you consumed. Hard to believe they can achieve this.

Going to be perfect with Soylent!

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« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2014, 11:39:59 PM »

Holy fuck this is incredible. It's probably all bullshit but I still want to try it.
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« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2014, 12:13:24 AM »

Is soylent Real Life?
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« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2014, 12:21:32 AM »

Interesting.  Now if they can make this work for plates and bowls, I'll be all set.  smile  One of the biggest pains about counting calories is actually measuring everything and making so many guesses and estimates with size/weight/brand/etc.
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« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2014, 12:54:36 AM »

Quote from: ATB on August 06, 2014, 12:13:24 AM

Is soylent Real Life?

Yes, it's real -- I'm drinking some right now.

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« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2014, 01:06:10 AM »

I don't get it, I know what I am drinking. If I need nutrient info I just look at the package. Sure it's neat, I just don't understand what it's supposed to do for me. 
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« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2014, 01:15:50 AM »

Quote from: Lee on August 06, 2014, 01:06:10 AM

I don't get it, I know what I am drinking. If I need nutrient info I just look at the package. Sure it's neat, I just don't understand what it's supposed to do for me.  

It keeps track. Surely you know what a hassle it is to track, either mentally or manually, all the calories and nutrients you drank throughout the day or week?
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« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2014, 02:45:10 AM »

Quote from: ravenvii on August 06, 2014, 01:15:50 AM

Quote from: Lee on August 06, 2014, 01:06:10 AM

I don't get it, I know what I am drinking. If I need nutrient info I just look at the package. Sure it's neat, I just don't understand what it's supposed to do for me.  

It keeps track. Surely you know what a hassle it is to track, either mentally or manually, all the calories and nutrients you drank throughout the day or week?

I guess, but it would depend on your lifestyle. I am not sure a $200 cup I need to carry around is worth the effort for me when a phone app would take less effort and is always with me. I am more likely to have drinks with calories in restaurants, or grab a coke at work/school, having to pour it into a special cup just so it can tell me that a 12 oz Coke is 140 calories is overkill. Especially in that you would need to clean it throughout the day adding to the hassle. When I tracked calories in the past, food was the difficult part, not drinks. Drinks were really easy to track.

My typical day of drinks is a cup or two of black coffee (about 0 calories). A can of Coke, or maybe two (140 calories) And water. Obviously I am not the target audience for it, but am I that different?
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« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2014, 03:04:32 AM »

I'm with you, Lee. I mean, it is definitely cool that it can identify the drink and provide the nutritional info, but it's just not something I see myself needing.
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« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2014, 12:47:12 PM »

I remember where I had seen this before, on the Colbert Report. Maybe that tainted my view?

(Not trying to mock something you are clearly excited about Ravenvii, just really needed a laugh, so I thought I would share.)
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« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2014, 09:52:53 PM »

In Real-time!
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« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2014, 10:25:41 PM »

Not that I would ever want a gadget like this, but hypothetically speaking: Does it actually analyze my beer for alcohol and calorie content, or does it just recognize "beer"? There's quite a difference between a 300-calorie double IPA and a 120-calorie light beer.
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« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2014, 01:01:23 AM »

it says it can even tell you the brand most of the time
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« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2014, 01:54:28 AM »

Quote from: Harkonis on August 07, 2014, 01:01:23 AM

it says it can even tell you the brand most of the time

It sounds like it can with registered drinks, but can they keep up with all the drinks out there? The name of the drink isn't important though, it will analysis any liquid and give you the nutrition values as well as track how much you drank of it. It is very cool.
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« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2014, 05:21:53 AM »

I wonder if it can detect contaminants?  That could actually be a safety/selling feature for college campuses where parties and roofies are a real problem. 
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« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2014, 06:27:56 AM »

Read the FAQ, all the are in it. Loo
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« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2014, 03:55:41 PM »

Quote from: Lee on August 06, 2014, 12:47:12 PM

I remember where I had seen this before, on the Colbert Report. Maybe that tainted my view?

(Not trying to mock something you are clearly excited about Ravenvii, just really needed a laugh, so I thought I would share.)

Haw! Colbert was the first thing I thought of as well. Love the device or hate it, this is a funny segment.
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« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2014, 08:40:26 PM »

I've never understood the need to monitor your caloric intake to this degree or to know exactly how many steps you've taken in a day.  Does this information somehow make you lose weight?  Don't most people who are trying to keep fit have a general idea of whether or not they've consumed too many calories or not exercised enough? 
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« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2014, 08:52:14 PM »

I have done calorie counting in the past, and I have used a Fitbit for a year. Calorie counting is easily the best way to lose weight for me. It's feedback on just how bad going to McDs for lunch is for me. It shows me that drinking 3 sodas a day is a lot of empty calories that I could have used to fill up your stomach instead. Of course you have to be willing to stick to it, and it's a lot if work if you like to cook. I lost a lot of weight by doing it, but eventually stopped because I moved and started eating at a lot of restaurants which make me feel guilty.

The Fitbit I use not to lose weight, but to motivate myself to be more active. It's all about the stats. Can I walk more than I did last week or last month? That motivates me. Reaching a step goal everyday motivates me.
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« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2014, 10:49:30 PM »

Quote from: McNutt on August 08, 2014, 08:40:26 PM

I've never understood the need to monitor your caloric intake to this degree or to know exactly how many steps you've taken in a day.  Does this information somehow make you lose weight?  Don't most people who are trying to keep fit have a general idea of whether or not they've consumed too many calories or not exercised enough?  

I think Lee already said it , but yes this information helps.  At least it did for me.  I was eating better and starting to exercise some, but what I was doing wasn't enough.  When I got the fitbit and really started tracking things you start to realize that little extra things that you eat or do during the day make a difference and add up.  Plus keeping it on is a motivation factor to make better choices throughout the day.  I imagine once those things really become routine I may not need it as much anymore, but until they do it's helping me.

However back to the Vessyl.  This seems like a pretty big waste to me.  Most of this information is already on my fitbit page (not to mention the side of the damn can).  They have a huge database of food you can look up already and it auto inputs everything for you.  I drink a can of soda, I just add it on the page and all the nutrition info is already there.  It is definitely NOT worth $200 to me to have a cup save me that 5 minutes of time.

Also what I'm learning, if you want to be healthy , the only drink you should be putting in your body is water.  That's a pretty easy drink to track...
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« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2014, 07:17:18 AM »

Quote from: McNutt on August 08, 2014, 08:40:26 PM

I\Does this information somehow make you lose weight?  Don't most people who are trying to keep fit have a general idea of whether or not they've consumed too many calories or not exercised enough? 

I didn't properly address this point. I know eating McDs for lunch is bad. I can do it and rationalize it however I want and then rationalize having too many calories at dinner. But let's say I am counting calories. I decide I can have 2600 calories a day. If I eat McDs for lunch and enter the calories I can see I spent 1200+ calories (not to mention the fats if you are also tracking those). If you figure I had a relatively healthy 400 calorie breakfast, and maybe a Coke or two at work it has a much great impact on how you think about food. All of a sudden its 1 PM, and I am over 2000 calories. It really makes you more conscience of what you are eating and drinking.
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« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2014, 12:45:22 AM »

Quote from: faide on August 08, 2014, 10:49:30 PM

Quote from: McNutt on August 08, 2014, 08:40:26 PM

I've never understood the need to monitor your caloric intake to this degree or to know exactly how many steps you've taken in a day.  Does this information somehow make you lose weight?  Don't most people who are trying to keep fit have a general idea of whether or not they've consumed too many calories or not exercised enough?  
However back to the Vessyl.  This seems like a pretty big waste to me.  Most of this information is already on my fitbit page (not to mention the side of the damn can).  They have a huge database of food you can look up already and it auto inputs everything for you.  I drink a can of soda, I just add it on the page and all the nutrition info is already there.  It is definitely NOT worth $200 to me to have a cup save me that 5 minutes of time.

It's $100 now smile

And re: measuring, I present Soylent.
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Also what I'm learning, if you want to be healthy , the only drink you should be putting in your body is water.  That's a pretty easy drink to track...

Again, Soylent.
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« Reply #22 on: August 11, 2014, 02:10:41 AM »

Quote from: ravenvii on August 11, 2014, 12:45:22 AM

Quote from: faide on August 08, 2014, 10:49:30 PM

Quote from: McNutt on August 08, 2014, 08:40:26 PM

I've never understood the need to monitor your caloric intake to this degree or to know exactly how many steps you've taken in a day.  Does this information somehow make you lose weight?  Don't most people who are trying to keep fit have a general idea of whether or not they've consumed too many calories or not exercised enough?  
However back to the Vessyl.  This seems like a pretty big waste to me.  Most of this information is already on my fitbit page (not to mention the side of the damn can).  They have a huge database of food you can look up already and it auto inputs everything for you.  I drink a can of soda, I just add it on the page and all the nutrition info is already there.  It is definitely NOT worth $200 to me to have a cup save me that 5 minutes of time.

It's $100 now smile

And re: measuring, I present Soylent.
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Also what I'm learning, if you want to be healthy , the only drink you should be putting in your body is water.  That's a pretty easy drink to track...


Again, Soylent.

Well, water and beer...
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« Reply #23 on: August 11, 2014, 04:12:26 PM »

Quote from: ravenvii on August 11, 2014, 12:45:22 AM

Quote from: faide on August 08, 2014, 10:49:30 PM

Quote from: McNutt on August 08, 2014, 08:40:26 PM

I've never understood the need to monitor your caloric intake to this degree or to know exactly how many steps you've taken in a day.  Does this information somehow make you lose weight?  Don't most people who are trying to keep fit have a general idea of whether or not they've consumed too many calories or not exercised enough?  
However back to the Vessyl.  This seems like a pretty big waste to me.  Most of this information is already on my fitbit page (not to mention the side of the damn can).  They have a huge database of food you can look up already and it auto inputs everything for you.  I drink a can of soda, I just add it on the page and all the nutrition info is already there.  It is definitely NOT worth $200 to me to have a cup save me that 5 minutes of time.

It's $100 now smile

And re: measuring, I present Soylent.
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Also what I'm learning, if you want to be healthy , the only drink you should be putting in your body is water.  That's a pretty easy drink to track...

Again, Soylent.

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« Reply #24 on: August 12, 2014, 03:43:03 PM »

I'm really just interested in the data. 95% of my daily intake is coffee (different kinds) and water (mostly still, but sometimes sparkling), but I'm curious on what the percentages are, if some days are different than others, and whether that tracks to how my body feels.

Again I expect to be disappointed, but its worth a $100 flyer to see how data nerdy I can be about this. In 2015. Maybe.
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